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Old 11-02-07, 07:52 PM   #1
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Simi Valley Ride

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Is this on for tomorrow and is anyone going?
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Old 11-02-07, 08:04 PM   #2
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It is on. I will be there with Keith and Stan.
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Old 11-02-07, 08:06 PM   #3
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If you have never done this ride before, be careful. It is a pretty competitive crowd and there is a lot of bumping.
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Old 11-02-07, 08:10 PM   #4
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Is this on for tomorrow and is anyone going?
Thurlow Rogers is going.
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Old 11-02-07, 09:11 PM   #5
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If you have never done this ride before, be careful. It is a pretty competitive crowd and there is a lot of bumping.
I would be going to slowly for anyone to bump me.
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Old 11-02-07, 11:07 PM   #6
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Even for the off season, this is a fast paced ride. The route is great, but don't expect to be with the group after the first 5 miles. The last time I attempted this, I was a national caliber junior racer and they averaged 30 mph on LA Ave before turning up Norwegian Grade where I struggled to keep up and got dropped by Moorpark Rd. I have seen the likes of Thurlow Rogers, Tinker Juarez, John Warden, etc. on this ride. All elite or pro riders.
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Yea, not a social ride. At all. I'll be falling off the back in no time.
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Well, if there's going to be an "off the back club" I might join you guys some time. I think I'm still going to ride Angeles Crest tomorrow. Maybe the wife will let me bring her camera for some pics.
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I thought I would give this a shot this morning. I rode to Kuehner and LA Ave and awaited the crowd. The crowd just kept getting bigger and bigger. I estimated 100 riders. There were some instructions yelled at the beginning but I couldn’t hear much of what was said. We then started rolling.

Having no experience with these guys and since I have not been in a paceline for 20 years, I thought I would hang toward the back until I got used to the crowd. The run through Simi was pretty tame, lots of red light running but lots of stopping for them too. At 1st street, some riders headed south. At Madera some more headed south. I knew I was with the fast group but I figured I would hang on as long as I could and as long as I didn’t get in anybody’s way, I would consider it a success.

The rolling hills between Simi and Moorpark was a pace way faster that I have ever done. By the time we hit Norwegian Grade I didn’t have much left. I really lack snap in my legs. Once I got to the top of Norwegian Grade, the pack was long gone. There were a few stragglers and I rode with them. I was out of water and unless we were going to stop soon, I would have to break off. When we got to Flores and Erbes, I decided to head north instead of following the pack south. The plan was to go to the park at the top of Erbes and fill my water, but, d’oh, no water at that park. I went down into Moorpark and up Miller Parkway to Miller Park and filled there.

Just a couple of miles from home, I decided I needed to do some more hills, sooooo, a couple of times up and down Miller and then I headed back over Norwegian Grade and up Calle Contento. Then some minor hills in Thousand Oaks and Moorpark until I got home.

All in all, a nice ride. I will definitely do this again and I will just keep pressing and try to hold on as long as I can. I do think I will start the ride at Madera and LA though. We hit that at about 9:00 am today so that will be my target. I will spend a few hours riding around prior. But riding with a pack significantly faster than me will allow me to develop some snap back to my riding.

Saw Vance, Keith, and Stan. They all looked great.
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Cheers Jim. It was quite a different experience riding with Thurlow Rogers, David Clinger, Ivan Dominguez, etc. I prefer climbing, but yes you are right on target for using this ride for speed work ("snap in your legs" ).
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The thing about hill climbing for me, is I tend to go my own pace when what I really need to do is go faster than my own pace. These guys went WAY faster than my pace. An example that first little hill as you head west on Tierra Rejada from Madera, I typically go up that at about 16 mph, today it was 24. I was hanging on for dear life as we rounded Moorpark Road toward Norwegian Grade. That is good stuff.

I also forgot to mention that at the start when Keith says to me, "so you just want people to know your name?”. I thought he was making a comment about my seatpost when he points to my helmet. Yes folks, I still had “Jim Thomson” on a big sticker that was leftover from The JoyRide a few weeks ago. I have been riding all around town with it for 3 weeks. Even last week with Mary/Steve/Jason/Ron, no one commented on it.

A great ride. I got in 60 miles. I will be back.
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Yes folks, I still had “Jim Thomson” on a big sticker that was leftover from The JoyRide a few weeks ago. I have been riding all around town with it for 3 weeks.



So... thomson, u gonna shave your legs and turn crit racer on us???
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Old 11-03-07, 06:51 PM   #13
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So... thomson, u gonna shave your legs and turn crit racer on us???
If I move from the back of this pack to the front of the pack, I will shave my legs and put on toenail polish. In other words, NFW
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Just don't call me if you get lost and need directions
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People do that ? Since you didn't call back, I assume you found your destination...
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Just so you know, I wasn't lost. I was just quizzing you to make sure you knew the area, just so you wouldn't get lost in the future. Just looking out for you, as usual.
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Whew on that!!
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Cheers Jim. It was quite a different experience riding with Thurlow Rogers, David Clinger, Ivan Dominguez, etc. I prefer climbing, but yes you are right on target for using this ride for speed work ("snap in your legs" ).
Ivan Dominguez in a monster... I think he is the fastest sprinter in the United States right now, hands down. He's also a really nice guy.

One of his teammates from Toyota-United is a friend of mine, as well as my riding partner/coach. I'll be out there with them within the next few weekends to get my legs torn off and get fit for the next season.

Riding with guys faster than you is the best and most sure-fire way to get faster. It can be intimidating, but they immediatly change your perception of fast and give you a new outlook on what is possible.

Unless you simply don't enjoy it, make it a point to do group rides, they really do help.
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Just so you know, I wasn't lost.
Joy is a man!
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Cheers Jim. It was quite a different experience riding with Thurlow Rogers, David Clinger, Ivan Dominguez, etc. I prefer climbing, but yes you are right on target for using this ride for speed work ("snap in your legs" ).

Try racing against them! So Clinger is still riding?
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Joy is a man!
::: scratching myself :::

U cruisin' for a bruisin', Valley Boy?
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One of his teammates from Toyota-United is a friend of mine, as well as my riding partner/coach. I'll be out there with them within the next few weekends to get my legs torn off and get fit for the next season.
Chepe?
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Chepe?
Yessir. Probably one of the nicest guys I've met through cycling. Do you know him?
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Yessir. Probably one of the nicest guys I've met through cycling. Do you know him?
Yes. Chepe and I were teammates in 1993. I knew him for a few years before that because we had raced against each other as juniors. I've raced against him the last couple of years here and in 2006 he was teammates with Tony.
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Try racing against them! So Clinger is still riding?
Yea, someone said something like "so you're back on the bike?" Do you know why he left (or was asked to leave) Rock & Republic? That seemed like a perfect match.
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