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Old 12-16-07, 01:06 AM   #1
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Tour de America

At last, the route of the 2008 or 2009 has been published...kinda puts the TDF to shame in my opinion....


Wait, here's the link to the real one....http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/a...riticism-13607
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Old 12-16-07, 08:22 AM   #2
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Couldn't get that link to load. Maybe try this one? http://www.aqusports.com/
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Thee already is a Tour of America See www.raceacrossamerica.org Yes, it is a grueling race.
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Thee already is a Tour of America See www.raceacrossamerica.org Yes, it is a grueling race.
The RAAM is a solo effort, the proposed race the OP is talking about is going to a multi day tour, much much different.

Besides, the map posted is a (very funny) joke aimed at how ridiculous the original plan was for the Tour of America.
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It still is ridiculous. Travel across a country of this size will not be conducive to what little rest there is in between the stages. What do they expect teams to do? Pack up all the bikes into flights? Or drive the distance overnight?! Sleeping overnight in a bus is not very helpful when you're competing at that level, this is why teams get hotels - better places to plan, recuperate, and so much more.

I could much easier see a Viaje de Chilé or Viaje de Perú than a tour of the United States, simply by the logistics of it all comprised with the country's size/scale and geography. Will those two ever happen? Only if teams want to kill off their own team members with the elevation and continual mountain stages, sure, why not?
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At last, the route of the 2008 or 2009 has been published...kinda puts the TDF to shame in my opinion....
[IM G]ht tp://mos.bikeradar.com/images/news/2007/10/02/ratusalotmap-798-99.jpg[/IMG]

Wait, here's the link to the real one....http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/article/tour-of-america-shortened-after-withering-criticism-13607
apparently an uninformed one.

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apparently an uninformed one.
Botto in the Socal forum...??
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It still is ridiculous. Travel across a country of this size will not be conducive to what little rest there is in between the stages. What do they expect teams to do? Pack up all the bikes into flights? Or drive the distance overnight?! Sleeping overnight in a bus is not very helpful when you're competing at that level, this is why teams get hotels - better places to plan, recuperate, and so much more.

I could much easier see a Viaje de Chilé or Viaje de Perú than a tour of the United States, simply by the logistics of it all comprised with the country's size/scale and geography. Will those two ever happen? Only if teams want to kill off their own team members with the elevation and continual mountain stages, sure, why not?
All are very true, but with a $10m purse from the race organizers alone, I'm sure there will be plenty of willing athletes.
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tour de america is dumb, endless flat miles full of drafting noobs
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All are very true, but with a $10m purse from the race organizers alone, I'm sure there will be plenty of willing athletes.
Yeah, well let's see where the $US is by the time the race rolls around, then we'll know if it's "worth" it. It is also AT THE END of the season - post Vuelta, no? Not sure if teams will be able to gather their best for this one.
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Yeah, well let's see where the $US is by the time the race rolls around, then we'll know if it's "worth" it. It is also AT THE END of the season - post Vuelta, no? Not sure if teams will be able to gather their best for this one.
they wont cause Americans wont line the streets to see this. No tv network will show a bunch of bums drafting each other for 200miles and then have a 1mile sprint.

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Yeah, well let's see where the $US is by the time the race rolls around, then we'll know if it's "worth" it. It is also AT THE END of the season - post Vuelta, no? Not sure if teams will be able to gather their best for this one.
Thats the biggest problem, I think.... How many Tours can these guys take? I can imagine that, regardless of the money, TDF, Vuelta and The Giro would be a priority for these guys. Add that to the Classics, Worlds, etc... I know that the same guys aren't going to ride ALL of these races, but it's gonna start wearing the superstars of the sport way too thin.

I still think that, assuming the prize money is there, it will be good. Of course it wont be on par with the "grand tours" but I still think it will be worthwhile.

The US dollar will probably be on par with the peso by next year, haha.
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The US dollar will probably be on par with the peso by next year, haha.
Come to think of it? A staged tour through Mexico would be amazing... Especially if they do some mountain stages through Oaxaca. Those roads are wonderful and legendary for a reason... wow.
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