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Old 02-28-08, 02:20 PM
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Bicycle Fatalities in Orange County

There have been three bicyclist die on Orange County streets this week: CORRECTION One this week others I missed the dates on the articles. My apologies for the error.

Santa Ana

Placentia

Buena Park

Who were they and what led to the collision? It appears that two were killed by inattentive truck drivers who may not have seen them but right hooked them none the less. One is a result of DUI.

Regardless if they were those that ride their bicycle as a primary means of transportation with menial jobs (that could include some of us here) or elite cyclist with high end bikes costing more than some people earn in a year. It is unfortunate to have to learn from conjecture about these accidents.

My prayers go out to the families of the victims and the drivers that hit them.
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I think you missed one in Irvine on Culver. The guy was run down by a truck which drifted in to bike lane. It happened after Food Park ride.
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UmneyDurak - can you post a link to the news article?
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Horrible. I feel sorry for all victims and their families.
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WTF?

That's getting scary.
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Don't show my wife these, I'll never be able to get out and ride.

So sad.
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Not all in one week but tragic anyways I'm sure several happen daily that we don't here about.
Friday, January 19, 2007
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If I have learned anything over the years its to not be out on the streets for the most part after midnight, on bike or in a car. Too many drunk drivers out after that time. Not trying to sound insensitive here, but I would not be out riding at 1 something in the morning, as the Buena Park rider did. It definitely is scary nonetheless. My thoughts and prayers go out to their families.
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Originally Posted by JTGraphics
Not all in one week but tragic anyways I'm sure several happen daily that we don't here about.
Friday, January 19, 2007
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Did you really mean to say that people get killed on bikes around here daily and they're NOT reported???
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This is so sad, in the course of barely a month, 4 people dead due to careless/drunk motorists. It makes me worry about all my OC friends!
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I have to apologize for an error on dates.

The one accident took place this week - Santa Ana

The others were in 2007.

My goof!

Still not good.
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There has to be some way to stop or at least reduce the maiming and killing. Any cycling clubs could step up?
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Originally Posted by DavidWhiting
There has to be some way to stop or at least reduce the maiming and killing. Any cycling clubs could step up?
David, I contacted the Santa Ana Police Department about criminal activity on the Santa Ana River Trail after dark because I was commuting from Placentia to Costa Mesa and SART should have been a logical and safer choice than surface streets. Not so - the Santa Ana PD reports muggings for bicycles and other criminal activity on SART after dark and even during the day. SART passes through a number of communities and one would hope that those city's and Orange County would improve the amount and visibility of law enforcement along the entire SART.

The reason that I bring this up is that I spoke to the Motor Officer responsible for Bicycle and Pedestrian Safety training for elementary schools in Santa Ana and he recommended that I ride the sidewalks. As any experienced and knowledgeable rider would know this is asking for an collision.

Regardless of my position on Illegal Immigration - against. I believe that something has to be done to educate the bicycle riders in North Orange County that are at a far higher risk than any of us recreational riders for these types of collisions and deaths. Hopefully this thread may motivate all of us to address the issue in an organized and effective manner.

I'm available and open for suggestions.
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Originally Posted by fthomas
Regardless of my position on Illegal Immigration - against. I believe that something has to be done to educate the bicycle riders in North Orange County that are at a far higher risk than any of us recreational riders for these types of collisions and deaths.
I agree, but keep in mind that for various reasons this is a population that is hard to reach by those advocacy organizations representing cyclists' interests.
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the girls in orange county are stuck up...aint no joke

i dont travel there cause o that...too much work for such uglyness
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the girls in orange county are stuck up...aint no joke

i dont travel there cause o that...too much work for such uglyness
And I'm sure everyone in OC laments your absence.
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And I'm sure everyone in OC laments your absence.
THe OC is lame, there was a show on about it on MTV, lots of girls with fake tits
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the girls in that show havent even reached puberty.
lulz @ the cop telling you to ride on the sidewalk.
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Originally Posted by DavidWhiting
There has to be some way to stop or at least reduce the maiming and killing. Any cycling clubs could step up?
How about stepping up with a club? The only way the majority of the population in OC could ever get the fact that cyclists have a right to ride in the road and that driving is a privelege, is if someone hit them over the head with a club.

RIP to all of the cyclists who were mentioned. Ride assertively.
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how about you guys ride to the right of the road and not road hog?
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THe OC is lame, there was a show on about it on MTV, lots of girls with fake tits
I agree, it's lame. Stay out.
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I agree, it's lame. Stay out.
dont worry your daughter is ugly, i wouldnt go there
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Originally Posted by ovoleg
how about you guys ride to the right of the road and not road hog?
Blasphemy!

Clearly you're unfamiliar with vehicular code 23.108c, which clearly states that cyclists may ride in traffic without possession of a common sense certification.

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thats only if theres not a bike lane / sharrow on the road.
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Originally Posted by fthomas

Regardless of my position on Illegal Immigration - against. I believe that something has to be done to educate the bicycle riders in North Orange County that are at a far higher risk than any of us recreational riders for these types of collisions and deaths.
A few questions:

How are you defining "recreational" cyclists?
How are you comparing their risk vs. non-recreational cyclists? (Statistical sources you are using, for example.)
How does illegal immigration factor into your analysis?

Thanks.
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