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    Tragic!


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    That's up around Los Gatos, yes?

    Very sad to hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merider1 View Post
    That's up around Los Gatos, yes?

    Very sad to hear.
    Yeah around there. Sad truth is nothing will be done to the cop. and it will be spun somehow that it was cyclists fault. Santa Clara cops are a bunch of dough bags. Pardon my French. Last time I interacted with them I reported a driver who threatened to kill me. Result? I was accused of being on drugs, because I raised my voice and got excited a bit when describing that he backed his car in to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merider1 View Post
    That's up around Los Gatos, yes?

    Very sad to hear.
    Actually, that's around Los Altos. I was actually trying to do a recovery ride that passes right through where the accident happened. I was surprised by the road closure, and to find out it was a sherriff mowing down a few cyclists. It's sad ... I think it was a Sunday Alto Velo ride. We'll probably have a memorial ride for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merider1 View Post
    That's up around Los Gatos, yes?

    Very sad to hear.
    Between Cupertino and Los Gatos/Saratoga. Its actually part of Tracy's favorite ride. I almost went that direction this morning.Instead I rode to Gilroy via Oak Glen, I thought of you ME as I rode through that area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSean View Post
    Between Cupertino and Los Gatos/Saratoga. Its actually part of Tracy's favorite ride. I almost went that direction this morning.Instead I rode to Gilroy via Oak Glen, I thought of you ME as I rode through that area.
    I love Oak Glen, Sean. Glad you weren't in the area. Now my aunt is going to freak when she hears. She thinks all roads up there are dangerous.

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    It made the top story on local news here. They showed a picture of the sherriff car on the opposite side of the street, with the bike lying under the car.

    This was right in the path on my way to my Mt. Eden/Pierce climb. That made my ride really short today.
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    I lived in that area for 10+ years and rode those roads frequently. They are roads that are often used by cyclists and are not heavily trafficked, and there is no good reason a police officer should have been driving at a speed in that area where he could lose control of his vehicle.

    Sadly I've seen this kind of behavior far too often. Police officers driving in a manner that would land the average citizen in serious trouble just becuase they can. Sorry, but I have no sympathy for this kind of behavior. Just tragic.

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    Some witness statements say that the officer fell asleep at the wheel.

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    Okay, hold on, everyone. Before we start speculating, let's think about something here. Number one (and I could be wrong), this may just be an awful, horrific "accident" - for real. Why don't we wait for the facts before crucifying the officer who was involved (not aimed at you, Sean, in the least, but I fear the posts to come if we go down that path).

    For now, let's just focus on the tragedy as it stands - two lives were lost and two families (and group of friends) were devastated.

    Regardless of circumstances, that is enough....

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    Quote Originally Posted by merider1 View Post
    Okay, hold on, everyone. Before we start speculating, let's think about something here. Number one (and I could be wrong), this may just be an awful, horrific "accident" - for real. Why don't we wait for the facts before crucifying the officer who was involved (not aimed at you, Sean, in the least, but I fear the posts to come if we go down that path).

    For now, let's just focus on the tragedy as it stands - two lives were lost and two families (and group of friends) were devastated.

    Regardless of circumstances, that is enough....
    Wow for once I agree with you.. Just like the other accident thread people who have no facts should not speculate. Whats the purpose?

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    I don't think I'll ride through there this week. I think just riding through there will be eerie, especially thinking where the accident may have occurred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Socalcycling View Post
    Wow for once I agree with you.. Just like the other accident thread people who have no facts should not speculate. Whats the purpose?
    I think it's human nature to speculate, honestly, and emotion too. I know when I first read this thread, I got angry (at the cop), but it took a second to stop and realize that we don't have all the facts.

    It won't change anything, but I hope it was just a tragic accident and not something more. Might help the families too.

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    I'm in it to finish it.

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    Reading about and watching the video from this story causes me to get a soap box. Please indulge me:
    While riding in a sheriff's deputy car a few months ago, I witnessed the officer driving while holding a full conversation on a cell phone about something extremely important (like plans for a barbeque that afternoon--Saturday). At the completion of this conversation, I witnessed the same officer chatting on his on-board computer about a training he was being 'made to attend'.
    Now, if there are new laws in the books to punish us 'mere mortals' for doing this while driving on the freeways at 70 mph, why are the people paid by OUR TAX DOLLARS allowed to do the same? Are they really that much better than we are?
    Ask them--I'm sure they'll agree that they are...
    I am not a police or a police officer hater, on the contrary, my dad was a police officer and I respect the difficulty and danger of their job. There does seem to be a double standard, though.

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    This is a quote from the article.

    "As is customary when a local law enforcement officer is involved in a fatal crash, the deputy was placed on paid administrative leave and the California Highway Patrol is conducting the investigation."

    Well that'll show him. I sure wish that every time I did something stupid that I would be "investigated" by people that have nothing to gain and everything to lose by punishing me.
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    Words from one of the cyclists at Slowtwitch.com:

    All,
    Just a few words to let everyone know how I am doing. I am Ok physically, but feel quite messed up in the head. Words cannot describe the accident scene, I thought that I was in a nightmare the whole time. This is what happened from my side - we were a team of four, Matt, Kristy, ******** and myself were heading towards the Stevens Creek reservoir as a team. The other 3 put around 20 seconds n me before the last stretch to the reservoir. When I took the corner, it was a horror scene. The sheriff officer got out of his car and was pacing up and down not quite knowing what to do. I could see that Matt was fatally hit and ********* was hurt, but, concious and yelling in pain. Kristy was in bad shape, I stayed with her and encouraged her to keep breathing until the paramedics took over.
    There was another cyclist on scene who happened to be a doctor - when he asked the cop what hapenned, he said, "I must have dozed off...".
    Thank you all for the support. I feel like we should get together as a team to talk about this, it would definitely help me.


    Full Story:

    Santa Clara deputy sheriff veers into cyclists killing 2

    Demian Bulwa, Delfin Vigil, Tyche Hendricks,Cecilia M. Vega, Chronicle Staff Writers
    Monday, March 10, 2008

    (03-09) 20:10 PDT CUPERTINO -- A rookie Santa Clara County deputy sheriff patrolling a winding Cupertino road today veered into the opposite lane of traffic and struck a trio of bicyclists, killing two people, including a rising star in the Bay Area cycling community, authorities said.

    Authorities did not release the name of the victims, but friends identified one of the riders as 31-year-old Kristy Gough of Oakland and another as Matt Peterson, 30, of San Francisco. Both were killed. The third cyclist, whose name was not released, was listed in critical condition Sunday night at Stanford University Medical Center.

    Gough was a professional tri-athlete who recently took up road racing and who friends said won every race she entered this year. Peterson, an active road racing cyclist, finished in first place in a race in Merced on March 1.

    Gough, Peterson and the third cyclist were on a training ride on Stevens Canyon Road and had broken away from a group of eight other riders when they were struck by the on-duty deputy at about 10:25 a.m., friends of the riders said.

    The unidentified deputy was northbound when his white cruiser accidentally crossed over the double yellow line near Montebello Road and hit the cyclists, according to Sgt. Don Morrissey, a spokesman for the sheriff's department.

    The deputy, who has worked for the sheriff's department for about 18 months, immediately began to offer assistance to the bicyclists and called for medical aide, Morrissey said.

    "The deputy is very distraught over this right now," Morrissey said. "It's devastating for everybody involved." Morrissey did not know whether Stevens Canyon Road is a route the deputy normally patrols.

    As is customary when a local law enforcement officer is involved in a fatal crash, the deputy was placed on paid administrative leave and the California Highway Patrol is conducting the investigation.

    Friends said Peterson, a member of the Roaring Mouse Cycles racing team, was dead at the scene. Gough died a couple hours later at Stanford University Medical Center, where the third rider, a 20-year-old, was admitted with major injuries, according to CHP Officer Todd Thibodeau said.

    Roaring Mouse Cycles on Irving Street in San Francisco, a bicycle shop that sponsored the team Peterson belonged to, posted word of his death on its Web site. His death was confirmed by David Parrish, president of the Roaring Mouse racing team.

    Two of Gough's friends, Dave Mayer and Anthony Borba, rode with Gough on the Third Pillar Amateur Road Racing team but were not present on Sunday's ride. They spoke with her family and were authorized to release her name, noting she died as a result of head injuries and internal bleeding and that she also suffered a severed leg.

    Mayer, 30 of Portola Valley, and Borba, 32 of Campbell, stood outside the hospital Sunday afternoon and recalled a talented athlete who excelled at cycling, even though road racing was a relatively new sport for her.

    "She's the strongest rider I ever rode with," Borba said. "The next level for her would have been the Olympic trials and she had no ego about it."

    According to Clas Björling, a champion Swedish triathlete who was Gough's sweetheart for several years, she ran cross-country and did a bit swimming in high school. But she didn't get serious about athletics until she was an adult and some friends introduced her to bicycling and competing in triathlons, Björling said.

    Once she caught the athletic bug, though, she devoted herself completely to training and competing as a triathlete. She worked as a waitress for a while, he said, but in recent years supported herself entirely on what she earned from her sports.

    "She never really liked the idea of competing against others; she wanted to compete with herself," said Björling by telephone from his home in Mockfjärd, Sweden. "She was a really talented athlete, especially on the bike. She was so strong physically and mentally."

    The group of riders hit by the deputy on Sunday were on a stretch of road frequently used by cyclists, but also heavily traveled by trucks on route to a nearby quarry. In 1996, a 46-year-old Cupertino man was struck and killed by a tractor-trailer rig while riding a bicycle near the scene of Sunday's tragedy.

    Borba said his racing team regularly uses the road for training rides because it is considered to be a safe route.

    "It has a large bicycle lane that is safe," he said. "That's why we ride that route every weekend."

    Chris Wendt, 53, who lives near the scene of the crash called the incident "a tragedy."

    "I don't want to say it was inevitable," he said. "But you do get a lot of (vehicles) and bikes up here. What was surprising is that it was a sheriff's deputy."

    Anyone with information about the incident should call the CHP at (408) 467-5354 ext.337.


    How awful. I feel sad and sick.

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    Not that it makes a difference in terms of a life lost is a life lost, but both were such accomplished athletes. So heartbreaking and I hope the 20 year old injured cyclist fully recovers.

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    The scene of the accident is one of my favorite routes, and it is not an area that I would consider dangerous. True there is some traffic that passes through there, but I would not consider it dangerous at all ... Hwy 39 is 5x more traffic.

    Now I have to come up with a different after work ride. Even if the road was open to traffic, I think I'd be too freaked out to ride through there.
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    Wow I just read the analysis and commentary regarding this tragedy by Bob Mionske-Portland cycling attorney/author...
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    Quote Originally Posted by alicestrong View Post
    Wow I just read the analysis and commentary regarding this tragedy by Bob Mionske-Portland cycling attorney/author...
    Wow.
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    I'd like to have an original reply, but...wow
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    Dear SoCal dudes -- check out some of the threads in the NorCal section if you want to read more about this terrible incident and the ensuing media-fest. The furor over the stats concerning accidents in the bay area has been quite impressive, but hopefully this will all raise awareness.

    In case you weren't aware, there was an amazing memorial ride just the other week which has been well covered - ~1000 cyclists showed. If you visit our side of the fence, you must check out Taxi777's piece/vignette on the memorial ride; very moving. He appears to be the official Norcal scribe/poet laureate. Also there are some pictures of the ride in the TT/Memorial thread.

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    Thanks Beaker for the heads up and you are right...very moving post by Taxi777.

    Smiles through the tears
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    Yea, that's Pete's tender side. He said it with all of us in mind.
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