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    City of Angels Fun Ride

    We're considering signing up for the City of Angels Fun Ride on May 4. We're undecided on which route -- the recreational route, or the "advanced" route.

    I wouldn't consider us "advanced", but not complete newbies either. We have new road bikes and should be able to go at least the speed posted for the advanced group. It's the hills I'm worried about. We participated in the LAPD memorial ride last month which ended with the hard climb up the hill to the Police Academy. We made it up in our granny gear -- on hybrids -- so I have no doubt we could make it on our new CF bikes (Specialized Roubaix). It's the other hills that they haven't posted yet that leave me wondering.

    I really don't want to wobble around with inexperienced riders who don't know how to ride in a group... but I don't want to drop out of the advanced group either.

    Anyone have any idea how hard the advanced ride really is?
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    Congratulations on your new bike purchases!

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    The hills on the advanced route are up and over Cahenga to Barham, then an optional jaunt up Trash Truck hill and then circle back around the zoo, then the final climb back up to the Police Academy.

    I've never done the basic route, but the advanced isn't that tough as long as you feel you can keep up the pace. The hills are minor, with Trash Truck being the tougher optional add-on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadfix View Post
    Congratulations on your new bike purchases!
    Hey George - thanks!

    Magicant: How would you compare Trash Truck with the last hill back up to the academy? I know that one is tough and I'm wondering how the others compare. If the memorial route hadn't been as flat as it was, I may not have had enough leg strength left to tackle that hill, so I don't want to use it all up on other hills on the advanced ride. But then again, the Roubaix is MUCH lighter, faster, and nimbler than my hybrid and seems to want to climb all on it's own, so......
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    pretty similar. Trash truck is longer but most of it's not steep until you get close to the top. But you can do the advanced ride and skip trash truck. Last year they wouldn't let the slower riders go up it because they have to keep the group together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yen View Post
    I really don't want to wobble around with inexperienced riders who don't know how to ride in a group... but I don't want to drop out of the advanced group either.

    Anyone have any idea how hard the advanced ride really is?

    push yourself and do the adv. route.

    i've only done this ride once. The deal-breaker was that it was a controlled ride - no one could pass the leader. And the rest stop in the Cahuenga pass was mandatory. meh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywould View Post
    push yourself and do the adv. route.
    I don't recall there being two routes last year - just some riders (many) who chose to ride over the back side of Trash Truck Hill and others (a lot) who skipped it. I wasn't paying attention I guess, as I don't remember the slower group being held back, but I'm sure Joel is correct.

    I would just advise taking off and going at your own pace. There is a fast pack that leaves the slower riders (and by slower, I'm not commenting on abilities, just that some weren't hammering). But overall, there riders spread out along the way that end up regrouping and riding together with police escorts the whole time. The only exception is going through lights. That was when the "slower" riders became the back pack.

    I say, Yen, that you just have FUN and if you get to Griffith Park and are with a group going over the hill, take it on. The last climb, of course, is up Stadium Way. I saw people walking their bikes up that and no one cares. The barbecue was okay if I recall.

    Oh, congrats on your new bikes.

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    Thanks. Sounds like "advanced" doesn't imply it's for elite hard-core roadies who can do Breathless Agony, but perhaps is meant to forewarn those less experienced to make an informed choice.

    I feel that if we could make it to the top of Stadium Way on our heavy hybrids, after only 1 year of riding (and still trying to get in shape), and even dropping a few road bikes along the way (no disrespect intended.... it was a very difficult climb), then we could probably accomplish the advanced ride on our new bikes that are half the weight and seem to want to climb all by themselves. The LBS loaned us some demo Roubaixs for the weekend and after climbing a hill we'd done many times on our hybrids, Hubby exclaimed "That was AMAZING!! It didn't even feel like a hill!!"

    My only remaining concern is getting lost if we decide to take a detour...
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    Another one to do is the LA River Ride...its usually in June
    Griffith Park to Long Beach...and either ride or take the train back....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yen View Post
    My only remaining concern is getting lost if we decide to take a detour...
    "Doctor, it hurts when I do this!"
    "Don't do that."
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    Quote Originally Posted by magicant View Post
    "Doctor, it hurts when I do this!"
    "Don't do that."
    Can you elaborate? Being new to organized group rides, I have no experience to go on. The LAPD memorial ride was different in that some of the members of that team circled around to the back of the group to round up the stragglers so no one would lag behind. I suppose with a map and planning ahead of time, we could choose an alternate street back if we don't want to do a hill.... but again, this is new to me and I'm trying to learn and understand how things are typically done.
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    You'll be fine. Just follow the group. By the time you hit any hills you'd like to avoid, it'll be too late. The ride goes over Cahuenga to Burbank and you won't have many alternatives. Just skip trash truck hill. Based on everything you've said, you won't have any troubles.

    To elaborate: the advanced ride is not a tough ride for anyone who rides even moderate distances. If you've ridden more than 40 miles before, you'll be fine. It's just not a ride for complete beginners, which is the short course.
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    OP, my buddy has done the ride for the past 2-3 years and he mentions that the "advanced" group usually keeps a pace of 18-23 mph while the "beginners" keep a pace of 14-16 mph. You should go on an exhibition run to see how well you'd do on the ride...it's really not that tough as long as you pace yourself at the police academy hill and the climb after the rest stop near Barham.

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    magicant and buck65: Thanks so much for your replies and additional information. Once we have our new bikes in hand and start riding them, we'll know our average speed on those bikes and have a better idea of what we'll be able to do on them. Our typical "easy" weekend ride (like today) is 20+ miles, often close to 30, and that's on 30+ pound hybrids with some short hills in the mix.

    Sounds like a fun ride. The Police Academy holds lots of memories from my childhood with my dad on the force at that time. My parents may enjoy being volunteers that day.

    Thanks again everyone.

    Is anyone else planning to do this ride?
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    Yen, I've done this the last two years and really liked it. Where else can you do a forty mile ride and give blood afterward! Nice venue, nice people and I think you'll be fine on the advanced ride. The ride marshalls keep the group pretty much together (they're a little obsessive) and the rolling closures are kinda cool cause they cut down on the number of lights to stop at. If I don't do that Fiesta 150 ride that weekend, I'll be at this one again for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yen View Post

    Is anyone else planning to do this ride?
    I may do it again. It really was a fun ride and I liked riding Sunset and Hollywood Blvds with no traffic.

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    This is the day after Breathless Agony, . . . so I won't be there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick@OCRR View Post
    This is the day after Breathless Agony, . . . so I won't be there!

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    You could sign up for the easy route and call it your recovery ride.
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    I'm hoping to be able to do the short ride, my son has a concert at 1:00 that afternoon. Does anybody know from experience what time will the short ride finish if they start at 7:40?

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    Quote Originally Posted by herbm View Post
    Another one to do is the LA River Ride...its usually in June
    Griffith Park to Long Beach...and either ride or take the train back....
    Please tell me more... is this posted somewhere? Will there be a notice here?

    With the new bikes on the way, I'm scouring the info out there for interesting rides to sign up for this year. We've talked of doing a century by the end of the year so we need to get working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yen View Post
    Please tell me more... is this posted somewhere? Will there be a notice here?

    With the new bikes on the way, I'm scouring the info out there for interesting rides to sign up for this year. We've talked of doing a century by the end of the year so we need to get working.
    Sure thing..it is sponsored by the LA Bike Coalition
    LA River Ride

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    and it was a Cool Breeze.... Cool Breeze is one of the best and easiest centurys to do....
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    BUMP!

    I just signed up. Anyone else doing this ride? I'm also planning on the LA River Ride as well.

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    We registered this week, for the recreational route (34 miles, 1800 total feet of climbing, rated "moderate"). I lost my dear father 3 weeks after I started this post and I need something to aim for in terms of cycling to get us back in the saddle (literally and figuratively). Not sure my body and mind are ready, but my dad would be thrilled.

    Anyone else? I'll be the one in the pink helmet. Come on, let's get a group together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yen View Post
    We registered this week, for the recreational route (34 miles, 1800 total feet of climbing, rated "moderate"). I lost my dear father 3 weeks after I started this post and I need something to aim for in terms of cycling to get us back in the saddle (literally and figuratively). Not sure my body and mind are ready, but my dad would be thrilled.

    Anyone else? I'll be the one in the pink helmet. Come on, let's get a group together.

    Jen
    Jen - my deepest sympathies on your loss. I'm sure your father would be proud of you. Unfortunately, I've opted out of doing this ride this year in order to afford to go to Sea Otter & Cruisin' the Conejo. Have a good ride and be sure to report back!

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    Thank you, Jeff.

    The Sea Otter & Cruisin' the Conejo sounds fun... I'll have to look it up and learn about it.
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