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Old 04-08-08, 02:27 PM   #1
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Route suggestions - climbing Palos Verdes

Does anyone here have suggestions regarding a good route to ride from the South Bay lowlands to the highest point on the Palos Verdes peninsula? I have no restrictions on starting point so either the northern (South Redondo, Torrance, Lomita, etc.) or eastern (San Pedro) departure points are OK.

Probably my most important preference is for a route that minimizes traffic, or has bike lanes or paths. Any information on the average grade and elevation gain would be helpful as well.

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Old 04-08-08, 03:15 PM   #2
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I used to live in El Segundo and did PV all the time. There are so many routes. My favorite was also the most convenient. I would take the strand (along Hermosa to Torrance) down to Rat Beach, climb out onto the street there turn right, take it up the hill, turn right on PV drive and then continue right up the hill past Malaga Cove and to Lunada Bay where I could decide to turn and go up Hawthorne Blvd, or continue over the bend to San Pedro and completing the loop back through Rolling Hills to Malaga annd then back down the hill.

I'm sure someone will come up with a route slip or street names. I just rode, didn't pay attention!
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After I got off work today (in Redondo Beach), I drove along Catalina Boulevard to Palos Verdes Drive and then took a right onto Palos Verdes Drive West. This initial climb doesn't appear to have any bike lane and I wonder how dangerous it might be on weekends.

Once I got onto Palos Verdes Drive West, a bike lane appeared. The roadbed and bike lane got a bit dicey in the Abalone Park/Portuguese Bend area, with some pretty steep (although short) descents, evidently where there has been some geologic activity.

I missed the Palos Verdes Drive East turnoff and ended up on 25th Street in San Pedro.

All in all, it looks like a pretty challenging ride, although I'm sure that during the daytime the views are outrageous, along with the landslide and other points of interest.

If anyone has any recommendations about riding safely in while on Palos Verdes West/South/East, I'm all ears...

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Hey Rick,

I do this loop all the time. Traffic is best when you do it counterclockwise, although sometimes, if the wind is right, clockwise gives a much easier time. Generally, on the weekends, traffic is fairly moderate, and there are few spots that you feel very exposed to the traffic.

For a few pointers, starting from the Malaga Cove Shopping Center (?) and heading counterclockwise:

- Going down the hill on PV West, you can get squeezed out into traffic from cars parking on the street, and made dicier by the Bots Dots/reflectors on the white line. Watch this area.

- Coming down PV West (after cresting the hill and past the first roller), most cyclists take a right on Paseo Del Mar. Reduced traffic, very nice views here, and connects back to PV West after a few miles.

- The areas north of Abalone Park are the areas of new pavement from the seismic movement in the area. Generally, there's plenty of room on the road for the cars and the bike, but watch out for the odd panel van and some yahoos in pickups. Also, always watch for the motorcycles. This isn't like Angeles Crest, but there are always some sportsters cutting the corners on this loop.

- There is a very narrow shoulder about a half mile after Peppertree Dr (about 1.5 miles north of Trump GC). Watch for traffic in this area, especially trucks. Keep to the right of the white line, as the median prevents passing traffic from swinging wide.

- Take the switchbacks up PV East. A really good climb of about 500 feet up to the college (seems longer but its not -- trust me, I've checked). Alternate routes off of PV East include taking a left on Ganado, and making your way up to to Crest, and then to the top. Ganado has a stretch that is 20+%, and has two killer additional switchbacks after that. If you do it as one continuous piece, its one of the tougher uphill stretches I know in SoCal. Or, when at the top of PV East at Marymount, you can go left on Crest and take a more moderate pitch to the top. The top of Crest, to my knowledge, is about the highest you can get on PV (higher than Hawthorne, I'm fairly certain).

- Coming down PV East thru Miraleste, there is plenty of shoulder, but take the lane in some parts, as the shadows may make you hard to see in spots.

- The hill down to PV North is a long stretch, but is twisty and has potholes in places. Cars and motorcycles generally keep lane discipline here, but be vigilant. Coming up this hill, if you decide to go clockwise, you should be careful. There is little to no shoulder in places, Bots Dots forcing you into the street, blind corners where fast traffic can't see you, and clueless van-driving soccer moms that will buzz within inches of your elbow. If I climb this hill, I try to go as fast as I can, especially through the blind corners. A helmet mirror, although freddish to some, will make you much safer on this stretch.

- PV North back to the start has a decent shoulder most of the way. In parts, the pavement is bad, and traffic is bad here until past Hawthorne, but it is fairly safe.

For more climbing, Via Del Monte and Silver Spur are fairly challenging hills. For those in West LA and the South Bay, this is really the finest cycling around without braving PCH north into Malibu. Enjoy it.
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This one is from HappyTime. I have the link save in the hopes of riding it one day.
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path...Harder-PV-Loop
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Hi,

Here's a link to the route that my club rides starting in Long Beach:

http://www.routeslip.com/routes/25786

Of course this will only help if you can get routeslip to work.

I will try to get the route on to a more reliable web site.
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Hey Rick,

I do this loop all the time. Traffic is best when you do it counterclockwise, although sometimes, if the wind is right, clockwise gives a much easier time. Generally, on the weekends, traffic is fairly moderate, and there are few spots that you feel very exposed to the traffic.

For a few pointers, starting from the Malaga Cove Shopping Center (?) and heading counterclockwise:

- Going down the hill on PV West, you can get squeezed out into traffic from cars parking on the street, and made dicier by the Bots Dots/reflectors on the white line. Watch this area.

- Coming down PV West (after cresting the hill and past the first roller), most cyclists take a right on Paseo Del Mar. Reduced traffic, very nice views here, and connects back to PV West after a few miles.

- The areas north of Abalone Park are the areas of new pavement from the seismic movement in the area. Generally, there's plenty of room on the road for the cars and the bike, but watch out for the odd panel van and some yahoos in pickups. Also, always watch for the motorcycles. This isn't like Angeles Crest, but there are always some sportsters cutting the corners on this loop.

- There is a very narrow shoulder about a half mile after Peppertree Dr (about 1.5 miles north of Trump GC). Watch for traffic in this area, especially trucks. Keep to the right of the white line, as the median prevents passing traffic from swinging wide.

- Take the switchbacks up PV East. A really good climb of about 500 feet up to the college (seems longer but its not -- trust me, I've checked). Alternate routes off of PV East include taking a left on Ganado, and making your way up to to Crest, and then to the top. Ganado has a stretch that is 20+%, and has two killer additional switchbacks after that. If you do it as one continuous piece, its one of the tougher uphill stretches I know in SoCal. Or, when at the top of PV East at Marymount, you can go left on Crest and take a more moderate pitch to the top. The top of Crest, to my knowledge, is about the highest you can get on PV (higher than Hawthorne, I'm fairly certain).

- Coming down PV East thru Miraleste, there is plenty of shoulder, but take the lane in some parts, as the shadows may make you hard to see in spots.

- The hill down to PV North is a long stretch, but is twisty and has potholes in places. Cars and motorcycles generally keep lane discipline here, but be vigilant. Coming up this hill, if you decide to go clockwise, you should be careful. There is little to no shoulder in places, Bots Dots forcing you into the street, blind corners where fast traffic can't see you, and clueless van-driving soccer moms that will buzz within inches of your elbow. If I climb this hill, I try to go as fast as I can, especially through the blind corners. A helmet mirror, although freddish to some, will make you much safer on this stretch.

- PV North back to the start has a decent shoulder most of the way. In parts, the pavement is bad, and traffic is bad here until past Hawthorne, but it is fairly safe.

For more climbing, Via Del Monte and Silver Spur are fairly challenging hills. For those in West LA and the South Bay, this is really the finest cycling around without braving PCH north into Malibu. Enjoy it.

Now that is a GREAT description of the area. So much I didn't know, and will now get to try.

Thanks!!
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Try this link at the bottom of the page find 3 different routes.

http://www.ocrebels.com/rides.htm

Sorry can't provide info on gradients, etc but PV east is a climber called zig zags, they all start at Hawthorne and PV Dr W
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