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Old 04-15-08, 12:34 AM   #1
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Redondo Beach PD Ticketing Cyclists

Last weekend I saw at least 3 cyclists pulled over by RBPD near the beach. Some of them looked not too happy, lol. Make sure if riding in that area to make a complete stop, look both directions and then proceed.
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Old 04-15-08, 08:46 AM   #2
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Yup when i started riding back in jan on my 2nd ride ever (going around PV up the switch backs) we were going up catalina and rolling slowly through stop signs and the cop was furious, you could tell he didn't want to have to be writing tickets but said people in the neighborhood were complaining.
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Old 04-15-08, 10:23 AM   #4
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stop does mean stop.....just sayin'.....
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stop does mean stop.....just sayin'.....
Well, it's not like cars do either.
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It's usually the community which pressures the PD into issuing citations.

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it still means stop...if everyone jumped off a bridge would you as well????????(said in my moms best nagging voice...!)
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it still means stop...if everyone jumped off a bridge would you as well????????(said in my moms best nagging voice...!)
Hmmm..let me think....
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hard choice...i know...
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...if everyone jumped off a bridge would you as well????????(said in my moms best nagging voice...!)
If I'm tripping on acid, I probably would....
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it still means stop...if everyone jumped off a bridge would you as well????????(said in my moms best nagging voice...!)
well......that would be the end of my mom's nagging....let me get back to you.
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I don't blow stops but i mean i roll through them on roads like catalina where its really really clear if a car is coming.
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I don't blow stops but i mean i roll through them on roads like catalina where its really really clear if a car is coming.
You must put your foot down, regardless!
Trackstanding doesn't count either! (at least according to Sierra Madre PD)

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So that means you have to unclip and have your feet on the ground. ?
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So that means you have to unclip and have your feet on the ground. ?
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Different police will interpret when a stop is good enough differently. I've been told that stopping pedaling and slowing waaaay down is good, I've been told that I need to stop and put a foot down, and been told that stopping and trackstanding is good enough. In the end, if you don't come to a full stop with a foot down, you'll be at the mercy of the policeman who sees you (and most likely what kind of a day they are having.) Take your own chances. Just don't ***** about getting a ticket for blowing a stop sign. (No one here is, but I see it all the time)
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You must put your foot down, regardless!
Trackstanding doesn't count either! (at least according to Sierra Madre PD)
A former Montrose ride organizer told me otherwise-- that you do not need to egress your shoes from their pedals at stop signs.
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If they're writing cyclists up for a violation of vehicle code 22450 for not putting a foot down that sounds incorrect. The law only says vehicle operators have to stop (as in complete cessation of forward movement), not that vehicle operators have to put a foot on the ground.

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22450. (a) The driver of any vehicle approaching a stop sign at the
entrance to, or within, an intersection shall stop at a limit line,
if marked, otherwise before entering the crosswalk on the near side
of the intersection.
If there is no limit line or crosswalk, the driver shall stop at
the entrance to the intersecting roadway.
(b) The driver of a vehicle approaching a stop sign at a railroad
grade crossing shall stop at a limit line, if marked, otherwise
before crossing the first track or entrance to the railroad grade
crossing.
(c) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a local authority
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You must put your foot down, regardless!
Trackstanding doesn't count either! (at least according to Sierra Madre PD)

That wouldn't hold up in court. The law simply states a full and complete stop. Since cyclists adhere to the same laws as motorists, I would ask the cop why s/he doesn't stop drivers who don't put a foot on the ground. Cops can be wrong at times.
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in my experience most cyclists barely even slow down at stops.....i dont think were talking about a trackstand vs a foot down here.....then again i did see a guy in a crappy little civic blow through a major light at about 50mph last night...no cops, but the new camera doo hickey nailed his *****!!!
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I was followed by a RBPD cruiser through three stops signs on Catalina on Saturday. I didn't stop, but I slowed way down, stopped pedaling, and made sure the intersection was clear. Apparently he was cool with that.
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How exactly do they ticket you if you aren't carrying a drivers license or other form of ID? Uhh, yea, my name is George, George Hincapie.
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I know stop means stop but I have never seen a cop give a ticket to a driver for stopping past the stop sign. It has been years since I took the driving test but from I remember you have to stop at the stop sign then you can creep foward after it is clear to look at traffic. I mean come on I really don't like having to swerve around a car that pops out and into traffic going 50 miles a hour. I know about every driver does it and as a cyclist you have to come to expect it but i have yet to see a driver get a ticket for it. Am I wrong here?
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How exactly do they ticket you if you aren't carrying a drivers license or other form of ID? Uhh, yea, my name is George, George Hincapie.
They have these things called radios and computers.
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in my experience most cyclists barely even slow down at stops.....i dont think were talking about a trackstand vs a foot down here.....
+1. I ride over 100 miles per week in the PV and south bay areas and I'm always seeing cyclists totally ignoring stop signs, blowing right through them. These people are perpetuating a bad image of cyclists to each and every person who witnesses their selfishness. Since I too am a cyclist, I feel it reflects poorly on me indirectly. For that I am annoyed.

I just donít see whatís so difficult about stopping. As others have stated, you really donít need to come to a full complete stop (even though the legal definition says otherwise). My experience is that if you stop pedaling and slow to less than 2 mph, youíre good. Iíve done this many times with officers looking on and have never had any trouble. Not once.

Itís not hard for the police to find a cyclist blowing through a stop sign. I say more power to the Redondo PD.
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