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Old 07-07-08, 01:58 PM   #1
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Aliso Viejo GP

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I'm sure you all know, but bears repeating that the inaugural Aliso Viejo Grand Prix is this Saturday, July 12th. CBR, Travis W and the Sho-Air team have worked hard to put together a great race in our own backyard. There are precious few races in Orange County, so please come out and support it. It's a great course and a great area to have a race.

This will also be my first race back after recovering from my 'hiatus', so I invite all you Cat IVs to come out and try to beat me.

When I'm not warming up, racing, and cooling down after my race, I expect to be handing out preems, so stop by and give me a nice BF hello.

See you out there,

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Old 07-07-08, 02:42 PM   #2
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I'll be there, cat 4. Looks like a fun course.

I'm attending almost solely because its close to home and its a CBR crit.

Edit: Er, I should probably be more clear - because its close to home and its a CBR crit, its worth supporting to me.

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Old 07-07-08, 04:15 PM   #3
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Will be there in the 4's.
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Looking forward to this after a two month layoff. Still chipping away as a cat 5, but with all this heat, I actually don't mind waking up early for the beginner races.

I hope the field will be bigger than the one this past weekend at Dominguez Hills though.
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In the IV's
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First 3's race for me. Should be a short day, getting dropped and all. At least I'll get to hang out for a bit.
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You can catch me hanging around... I'll probably have my camcorder there to record the races, but I don't know where I'll be working as a volunteer...
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Course Pre-Ride

I did a pre-ride of the course tonight. The climb is about a third of a mile long. It's probably 4-5%, maybe a bit more with a flattish section in the middle and a roundabout at the top. If I understand correctly, the climb is between turns 3 and 4, just before a slightly downhill finish. Going all out, it takes about a minute to climb. I figure we'll go up it about 12-15 times. It will be painful and selective. I'm just wondering which side of the selection I will be on.

Hope to see you all there!

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i'm in for the 40+ 1/2/3 and the 3s... that's about 30 times up that thing!
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Why did they have to put a hill on the course?
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So I can finally have a chance at one.
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Heh. Looks like my introduction to Cat 4 is going to be a baptism by fire.
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So how'd everyone's day go?

My story is typical of my usual story with crits. I can usually hang with the lead group, but didn't ride a very smart race, so I as nowhere near where I needed to be when it counted. Doesn't help matters that I don't have any teammates out there.

I got a prime about halfway through, and took a couple laps to recover from that. Then there was a crash and the field split. I was in the front group, of about 11 guys, and knew I was too cooked to outsprint them all, so I made what turned out to be a poor gamble, and went hard on the climb at the start of the last lap. I'm a better climber than sprinter, and thought maybe some guys would pop off, giving me a better chance at a decent placing. Nobody popped off, and I was too cooked to do anything for the rest of that lap, other than try to recover. Managed to come in ahead of *one* guy in the group, for 10th. Too far back for any upgrade points. At this rate I'll be a IV forever.

Still, it was a fun course, and definitely suited my strengths better than most crits. I'm generally somewhere in the middle or back, in the last couple laps, while the sprinters duke it out, so I'm not a big fan of crits, but I'll definitely do that one again.

That was in the IVs. I bailed out of the 30+ III/IVs after about 15 minutes. I was too cooked from the first race to stay with the pack. Figured I'd try and save some for LB tomorrow (Though I'm still not sure if I'm going to that one. Depends on GF plans...).
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I thought it was a great course. It was definitely suited more towards climbers, which is uncommon for a crit. For me, that was a positive. And hats off to Travis, Shoair, Aliso Viejo, and CBR for putting on a great race. Hope it's back next year!

I finished 8th in the Cat 5's. I know that's nothing to brag about, but it is one of my final races as a 5 and that was my first time cracking the top 10, so I was pretty excited. The rest of my races as a 5 have come at Eldo, where 4's and 5's are combined and the race always comes down to the final sprint. That can get pretty hairy, so I usually don't even contest the sprint at the finish.

I probably could have finished higher at Aliso because I basically blew myself up on the second lap going up the hill. I fell back and missed a chance to get in the lead group. The rest of riders got really spread out, so I was battling back and doing all the work myself. I passed about 10 guys in the last few laps and out-sprinted two guys to the line to take 8th.

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Great job, guys. Both very good results.

(((SPRINTERS BEWARE))))

I HATED the course. I knew as soon as I saw the climb that I was in for either a very long day or a very short one, and as soon as I realized I wasn't going to sniff the top ten I just decided to make it a short one. That took about...oh...two laps I did my club ride this morning, which was at a pretty brisk pace, and I just wasn't in the mood to fight for a meaningless result in the afternoon.
With all the attrition, I could have easily finished in the top 20 had I just kept going, but there's no glory in simply finishing for me. I hate doing that. I know when I'm overmatched by a course. I hated the course when I first laid eyes on it. HATED it. HATE! That was like the Punchbowl of crits for me. **** that place
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Thoroughly owned by this course.

It was a quick realization that this was NOT a big ring hill. I was shot off the back in about two and a half laps, and got pulled out after 6. In fact, my only real complaint is not that I had no chance, but that I got pulled out at the top of the hill. If I was looking for just any race to do, I probably should have done tomorrow's race which is pancake flat, but I couldn't make it.

swimmer88: If you finished 8th on THAT course, you're doing pretty damn well.
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Old 07-12-08, 10:44 PM   #18
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Course did all of the selection. I don't think any field had more than 20 finish, at least not in the main group. Got boxed out in the last corner and couldn't quite close the gap to 3rd so I ended up 4th. 3 more points to the 3's.
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Old 07-12-08, 11:41 PM   #19
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Ended up 12th in the 3's. Hard race but I thought it was a fun course. I hadn't done any hard anaerobic workouts in about a month so I faded hard from the lead group with about 5 laps to go. I did win a nice wheel bag though.
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LMAO, Jason. Sorry I missed you at the race, but always love your take on things. Tell us how you REALLY feel.

I posted this on Jason's wall on FACEbook, no need to rewrite:

I did surprisingly well in getting pulled with 2 to go. Our field (Cat IV) was whittled from 60 or 70 to 10 in the lead group and maybe 20 total that actually finished the whole race. It was attrition. It was like a furnace towards the top of the climb with no wind and I was at my max HR each time up except for the very first.

I was at the race ALL day and heard all sorts of comments. They were all generally positive while simultaneously saying it was the most difficult 'crit' on the calendar, or that they had ever done. One very experienced Masters cyclist said it was the best course he's ever done. Go figure. Of course, I was handing out preems for part of the day, so the guys I talked to were generally going well. But hell yea, BRUTAL course. Not for the nervous, as Phil Liggett would say...haha.

And yea, great job by all who put on the race, esp. Travis and the Sho-Air elite guys. I think there were preems on almost every lap. A top 10 there was a stellar finish. I coulda done it back in April, but I'm not back...YET.

Thanks everyone who showed up and raced. I had a great time despite getting pulled from my first race EVER, and for not getting a single BFer greet ALL DAY...sheesh. Not racing tomorrow, but best of luck to those that are.

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I guess could clarify a little. I honestly thought the course was great. Just not for someone of my particular specialty. It was in a nice area with a very nice setting, and the event itself was very well organized and the races well executed. I especially liked the lead and follow scooters.
If I had the day to do over again, I definitely wouldn't have ridden in the morning. It wouldn't have helped me place any better, but I would have felt better about being shot out the back like a wet turd and probably would have gone ahead and finished.
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Ahhhh the climb

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Loved that course. Brother and I took 3rd and 7th in the 3's and couple of nice primes.
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Ahhhh the climb

I ask that we please take the picture down as I do want to see anything close to resembling that course for quite a while . My legs are still yelling at me.
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Thanks everyone who showed up and raced. I had a great time despite getting pulled from my first race EVER, and for not getting a single BFer greet ALL DAY...sheesh. Not racing tomorrow, but best of luck to those that are.
Haha!
Ethan, I spoke with you for about 10 minutes before the Pro race started when we redid the cones after the kids races. If I had know that you were BF I would have introduced you to the other BF'ers that I saw around...

I ended up guarding the entrance to the Main Place apartments for most of the day, and received mostly positive comments from the drivers that I had to hold up. I hope that the race will be back next year!
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