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Old 07-28-08, 10:33 PM   #1
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Why does no one ride here?

I frequent the area surrounding Glendora Mountain Road. But lately, the numerous cyclists have been joined by scores of motorcycles and street racing cars making one of my favorite cycling havens a dangerous place for cyclists. 165 car crashes in five years--that's excessive.

So I started exploring higher up Asuza Canyon on old highway 39. Once I past the West Fork gate, this roadway is closed to automobile traffic making it the ideal place for cyclist to climb in safety. The roadway is in good condition except for the last 3 miles approaching Islip Saddle. This roadway rises at an average 5.9% and rises ~5000' in 14 miles. The entire route is rideable at present. Once you reach Islip Saddle you can descend on open roads to La Canada. Or you can turn right beyond the closed gates and continue on Angeles Crest. There you have another 1300 feet for climbing and 12 more miles of beautiful closed asphalt until you reach Vincent Gap.

I've ridden this three times now and have encountered no more than five other cyclists.

Why does no one ride here?

My friends and I climbing near Crystal Lake

Icy cold snow melt is cool and refreshing. But not recommended for drinking

Nothing but silence and empty treelined roadways

That's Palmdale in the background

Dawson Saddle--7901 Feet above sea level
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Old 07-28-08, 10:47 PM   #2
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Wow great pictures and nice road I use to go up into Asuza Canyon many years ago, I may have to get a few friends and go up to that area one of these days, is that all of whats left of Crystal Lake?
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I road there this weekend
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Wow great pictures and nice road I use to go up into Asuza Canyon many years ago, I may have to get a few friends and go up to that area one of these days, is that all of whats left of Crystal Lake?
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I road there this weekend

I saw a Colnago, a Pinarello, a Cannondale, and a Torelli. Either one of those you?
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The climb to Crystal Lake - that's a good ride. Bummer is that there's no source of water up there, so you need to carry all you'll need.
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Thanks a lot for the idea, I've been looking for a place to climb like this! 39 used to be closed from just north of crystal lake due to a landslide, but that was 25 years ago, so I guess they finally, after many years, got around to clearing the slide. It was impassable then.
Where is 39 closed from now, or how far past the east/west fork junction is it closed? I'm not sure where the west fork gate is, I'd like to park somewhere near there...
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The climb to Crystal Lake - that's a good ride. Bummer is that there's no source of water up there, so you need to carry all you'll need.

I drink from the spring in the OP's picture just about everytime I ride up there (at least once a month, sometimes 3-4 times in a month). I have been doing this for a couple of years and I haven't had any problems. When I go up that way, I'll carry an extra bottle in my jersey but I always end up drinking the 3 bottles and need to refill.
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I drink from the spring in the OP's picture just about everytime I ride up there (at least once a month, sometimes 3-4 times in a month). I have been doing this for a couple of years and I haven't had any problems. When I go up that way, I'll carry an extra bottle in my jersey but I always end up drinking the 3 bottles and need to refill.
A guy in our group did that a while back. He didn't suffer any effects, but Crystal Lake is a "non contact" Lake - meaning that it's not safe to touch the water.

That stream is filtered through rock, but it is just below the lake - so you're braver than I am.
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Looks like a great climb. Thanks for posting.
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That's my favorite So Cal climb. Good job going to Dawson Saddle. That's a 36 mile climb from Encanto Pk and over 7K. They were chasing us out of there a few years ago but it seem ok now just beware the chances of getting help up there are slim and there are bears at Crystal Lake.
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The climb to Crystal Lake - that's a good ride. Bummer is that there's no source of water up there, so you need to carry all you'll need.
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I drink from the spring in the OP's picture just about everytime I ride up there (at least once a month, sometimes 3-4 times in a month). I have been doing this for a couple of years and I haven't had any problems. When I go up that way, I'll carry an extra bottle in my jersey but I always end up drinking the 3 bottles and need to refill.
Hi,

That's why I pretty much stopped riding Highway 39 -- no water. Did the ride about 5 years ago with some teammates and we ended up begging some water from a homeowner who was very nice. Did the ride again last year with vertical bob and a group of his cronies. Since it was pretty cool that day I survived on two large bottles and one small bottle in my jersey.

Somehow two human test specimens don't make me feel a lot better about drinking the water from the spring.

I really miss the days when Crystal Lake was up and running. Had some great times doing rides up there and then hanging at the snack bar at the lake before descending. Also did a race up to the lake back in the 1980s. Ah, the good old days...
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People like GMR more because it commands aesthetic views. 39 is wonderfully safe past the locked gate, but frankly - - this is the ugliest paved road in the San Gabriels in terms of the surrounding beauty. Heat, fire and smog blasted chaparral mountainsides for much of it. This changes- of course- as you get higher.

Whereas GMR commands stellar vistas almost from the beginning. That is why I prefer GMR, in spite of the danger...
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I drink from the spring in the OP's picture just about everytime I ride up there (at least once a month, sometimes 3-4 times in a month). I have been doing this for a couple of years and I haven't had any problems. When I go up that way, I'll carry an extra bottle in my jersey but I always end up drinking the 3 bottles and need to refill.
I drink from the spring every time too. No problems

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Anybody have this ride mapped by a garmin 305 or higher??? Link please!!!
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This was starting from Grand Ave. and Goldensprings Rd. in Diamond Bar Distance107.36, Ascent38, Descent37, Flat32 Elevation Gain 11,900ft.

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I sold it to pay for the Sram Red and wheels
NOW you're just pissing my off!
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I'm just trying to make sure it is truly I that sucks.
I mean, what if it were the Dura Ace, or the Mavic SL's? Now I'm 100% positive it's me.
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I'm just trying to make sure it is truly I that sucks.
I mean, what if it were the Dura Ace, or the Mavic SL's? Now I'm 100% positive it's me.
Dude you crack me up, when are we going to ride again?
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When ever you put together another three saddles tour. I've increased my climbing speed a tad but still nowhere near all you doubles dabblers.
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When ever you put together another three saddles tour. I've increased my climbing speed a tad but still nowhere near all you doubles dabblers.
My next double will be TOTF. So soon I will start training for it. I haven't been riding much lately but after my 10 year anniversary weekend getaway (Aug 8,9,10) is over I will be riding every weekend to build up my climbing legs.
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After this weekend I will be doing a 8K+ century every Sunday for three months.
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