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    Partly out of frustration of not getting a straight answer to the Southgrade closure question and partly just to avoid hours of hassle, I decided to blow off Palomar and go watch the start of the race in RB.
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    Two wheels good. Four wheels bad.

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    ^^im thinking the same.. i dont care at this point..i just want to see em go by and having a new goal of getting water bottles!! i need some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrino View Post
    What's the situation with East Grade closure on Sunday, please? Considering the possibility that South Grade is closed to bikes from 9am (seems unreasonable but nobody knows), my 'plan B' was to head East on 76 and take Palomar 'from behind' on the East Grade... Considering I will have to lug some warm clothes and food up there, the easier climb sounds appealing right now!
    Have any spots lined up for parking or are you just going to wing it?

    I'm bringing my bike, thinking about parking down off Valley Center then biking up 76 to South Grade. If they do indeed close it to bikes at 9am (bummer that) I may then chug on down 76 and up East Grade.

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    Jamie Smith is working the ToC ("EventServices" is his BF handle) and I asked him about biking South Grade on Sunday.

    He said that "unofficially" you can ride the course up till 20 minutes before the first rider. But, be prepared for for official vehicles rolling by ahead of them. Here's the link to his reply tonite (scroll down the thread to reply #9 from 'EventServices':

    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...=1#post8392648

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    That was my assumption. I figured even if they posted some official at the bottom of South Grade to prohibit cars, and even bikes, you could simply "walk" your bike past the guard at the bottom and then start riding up the grade 50 yards later.
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    Two wheels good. Four wheels bad.

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    i called harrahs about parking...they said it is cool to park in the south lot where the buss' park. when will we know if they change the rout?

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    If you are a bike fan the start or finish is probably the best bet.

    If you race, have raced, or are just a typical die-hard roadie, you probably are going to ride up south grade to watch the race....

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlin55 View Post
    If you are a bike fan the start or finish is probably the best bet.

    If you race, have raced, or are just a typical die-hard roadie, you probably are going to ride up south grade to watch the race....
    I am neither a racer or a die hard roadie, but I still plan to shuffle up South Grade. I've always wanted to see the pros blast up that road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlin55 View Post

    If you race, have raced, or are just a typical die-hard roadie, you probably are going to ride up south grade to watch the race....
    south grade is brutally steep around 20% ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideroli View Post
    south grade is brutally steep around 20% ?
    Nah. Check this out:
    http://www.celopacific.org/2008/Road...mb_April08.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideroli View Post
    south grade is brutally steep around 20% ?
    Nope. The lower half (Pala Rd) averages 6%, The upper half (South Grade) averages 7%


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    I had thought of Big Tujunga to Angeles Forest intersection, but then when could I get out? So went to Rose Bowl instead, on the motorcycle, which can move where cars can't.
    And I got to see everything there.
    I also thought of Escondido for 2 nights but I'm glad I didn't. Tv showed wall to wall crowds all over the sidewalk for blocks. So that may mean long lines at all restaurants, and my ultimate starvation.
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