calamarichris

I've been looking forward to this sucker all month, so I'm resurrecting Frankenstein's terminated Pie Ride.

Here's the Route Map.

Place: Mayflower Dog Park in Escondido (See Point A in the above map)

Time: 8:00am on 10/18 (Sunday)

Distance: +/- 90 miles

Climbage: +/- 11,000 feet, including Lake Wohlford Grade, Palomar Mountain's South Grade, Mesa Grande. (The real climbing will be done after Mesa Grande and it will be rollers with a downhill trend from Santa Ysabel on.)

Sunday's forecast for Santa Ysabel is 76 degrees and it should be really beautiful after the rain we'll be getting this week.

Click for Santa Ysabel forecast.

jabantik00

oops. posted in the other post before i saw this. BRAAAINNNSS....

efficiency

Should I show up? All I have been doing is drinking beer.

robertkat

^^ Yes. It's fun. I'm in.

jabantik00

are you going to dirttoberfest too? this will be a good recovery ride

calamarichris

Some photos of the route to tempt you. The forecasted high has been changed to only 74.

Nachoman

If you want to tempt Mark, I suggest offering to buy beers.

efficiency

The pictures didn't work. I still have no desire to exercise.

jabantik00

braaiiinnsssss

robertkat

So it's on for Sunday then ya? If you guys want we can start from my house and get a couple miles to warm up before heading up to Lake Wohlford. Do we have a head count yet?

calamarichris

Looks like it's just you and me, Roberto. I'd love your company if you can make it too, but no hard feelings if you'd rather join in other reindeer games.
Before the Tour de Poway, this route seemed a little far-fetched (or at very least a slog.) But I've been visualizing this ride ever since, so I'm doing it come #3ll or high water. All grub & grog are on me if you can make it.

jabantik00

i'll go if there's a ride. i can't recall ever doing more than 1 ride >11k climbing so this is a big deal to me. but if there's burritos and tacos and cervezas to be had, i can make it

robertkat

Pie it is. Two, possibly three. Weather should be nice, warm but not excessive. If I ride with the club tomorrow I'll pass the word on, maybe get a few more to join us.

calamarichris

91.4 miles, and probably only about 8500 feet of climbing (Garmin battery pooped out.) I had a flat tire before Palomar and was having a tough time in the motorcycle fumes on the South Grade, (they were thicker than flies on poo yesterday morning) but Robertkat & Jabikant were kind enough to wait (and wait) for me at the top.
The rest of the ride was a dream! (Oh yeah, except for the 4-5 miles on the 78 west of Santa Ysabel--all the dirt-bike trailers were coming back from the desert for the weekend.)
But Mesa Grande, Old Julian Hwy, and Highland Valley Road were smooth, empty and shady much of the way.
Many thanks to Rob & Alan for making the journey and making it fun!

Will definitely do this ride again this winter. (It was a little warm on the mountain and windy toward the end.)

robertkat

I had a great time, despite coasting on fumes into Escondido. The motorcycles on Palomar did seem to be a bit on the rude side this time, and yes the air was thick. The pie was excellent, thank you Chris.

Chucklehead

This used to be an annual deal for us. Don't know what happened with that. It just seems like everyone has settled into different routines now, including myself. I think for the most part, a lot of people stopped doing it because there was too much stopping for too long along the way.

calamarichris

Three riders turned out to be the perfect peloton for this one. (Except for the w@nker who got the flat tire, took forever to get up the South Grade, insisted everyone stop for pictures at the Henshaw overlook, and was getting gas from the navy bean soup he had in Santa Ysabel.)

It was a seriously great, great route! So many of the sections had brand-new, baby-smooth asphalt: Mesa Grande, Old Julian Road, Highland Valley, even the 79 north of Santa Y & the 78 West of it. It's easy to see why this state's having financial trouble when we've clearly been spending so much on the roads. God I love living here!

jabantik00

it's a big ride for certain, but still just a ride. that's why we visit this forum. maybe this was just a bad day for it? winter is coming, and warm, sunny days will be increasingly rare... i bet more people will be interested in the next pie ride, yes? there wasn't many stops yesterday. taco shop, mothers, pie shop, and somewhere in ramona? i forget

Chucklehead

Well, it used to happen in early fall and late winter/early spring. That's why I wonder why there weren't more takers on this one.
As for the stopping, I'm sure you know how it is. With a larger group, the stops typically last from the time the first guys get there until the last guy gets his fill or is just plain ready to go.
Last time we did it there was a pretty big gap formed between the stop-and-eat(for an hour) crowd and the we-can-eat-at-the-end folks. I think this was probably the ride that made everyone realize that it's just as hard for some people to go slow as it is for some to go fast.

robertkat

I see that happen a lot. It's pretty normal for rides with club to split in two groups, but on a 40 mile loop it's not as big a deal. I was thinking we could do this again, say early Spring, and stay on the 76, bypassing Palomar for a lighter edition. Plus, if it was a bigger group, I wouldn't mind a more "touring" type of pace.

jabantik00

pie lite lite sounds good. that was more than 2 regular rides for me, and some of those motorcycles were a bit obnoxious.

off on a tangent: are those big touring motorcycles (like goldwings) nerdy or unhip? cause i like those

calamarichris

Motorcyclists are just like us: they look down on each other for riding crotch-rockets (sportbikes), Winnebike'os (large Goldwing touring bikes), or riding mowers (Harleys). If you like a certain kind of motorcycle, there will always be a segment of the populace who will ridicule you. (I sure love making fun of the tattooed, Baditude-Outlaws (who are actually paralegals and orthodontists) on Harleys.)

q:What's the difference between a Harley and a vacuum cleaner? a: On a vacuum, the dirtbag is mounted on the back, not the top.

Yesterday was the worst I've seen Palomar in a long time. It's not often that bad. Usually one or two of them crash, which brings ambulances, which brings CHP cruisers, which clears off the mountain.

Sayeth the guy who flew up the South Grade like he was made of helium.