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Old 12-01-09, 02:27 AM
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Boulevard Road Race/Red Trolley Classic Criterium

So I think this February I'm going to take my first shot at racing.

These two races are in the same weekend and both in San Diego (don't feel like driving too far).

Does anyone have any experience with either (or both) of them?

I don't know which I'd rather do, but can't really find any info on the BRR to make a good decision. Hell, if the entry fees aren't too high, I might do both, but will most likely just do one or the other.
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I have done Boulevard several times, It's a climbers course, 2000 feet per lap. The weather can also be a big factor.
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The Boulevard is a great race. Is very hard and yes the weather is always a factor. Just have some fun and be ready to really suffer...
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One of the toughest races on the calender. Unless you are a 130lb climber.
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It snowed at Boulevard earlier this year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK6zH...layer_embedded

Red Trolley Crit is three corners plus one sweeper. None of the turns are especially tricky. The difficulty in the course is the hill to the finish. You have to be able to put down a strong effort every 1-2 minutes for the duration of the race.
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I will be there for both Boulevard and Red Trolley as a 4. Anyone else going?
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Originally Posted by efficiency
duration of the race.
1 lap?
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Im thinking of going as 4 for Blvd race. Either solo or with Team Sho Air. Im not a great climber
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everyone was talking about blvd last year. i might have to join in this season.
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Originally Posted by efficiency
It snowed at Boulevard earlier this year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK6zH...layer_embedded
One of the most miserable days I've ever had on the bike.
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Originally Posted by GP
1 lap?
I lasted 3, but since criteriums are timed, I lasted 5 minutes.
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If you're easily discouraged then Blvd. is a bad race to start with. It's a grueling course that gets even worse with bad weather.

Red Trolley is better. The hill slows the group down a bit so it seems that there are less crashes (maybe). I hope you've been doing your intervals!
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Originally Posted by John R
I have done Boulevard several times, It's a climbers course, 2000 feet per lap. The weather can also be a big factor.
Okay. Boulevard is out. Red Trolley it is.
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Originally Posted by agoodale
If you're easily discouraged then Blvd. is a bad race to start with. It's a grueling course that gets even worse with bad weather.

Red Trolley is better. The hill slows the group down a bit so it seems that there are less crashes (maybe). I hope you've been doing your intervals!
Never done Red Trolley before. (Kinda far away so still might not.) How does this course compare to say, Manhattan Beach GP?
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Originally Posted by mkadam68
Never done Red Trolley before. (Kinda far away so still might not.) How does this course compare to say, Manhattan Beach GP?
I like both for different reasons.

The RT hill requires a little more effort than MBGP's. It's also a short course so you hit that hill more often. The three turns don't require any slowing down (unless you're stuck in the back). The big sweeper has good pavement. The field also tends to be smaller due to the driving distance and fatigue from Boulevard which is the day before.

MBGP has a decent course with a good crowd & atmosphere.
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I'll be at red trolley getting a lead out from Agoddale!!
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Originally Posted by Crash716
I'll be at red trolley getting a lead out from Agoddale!!
Wheel sucker! At 5'8" 140lbs I don't produce much of a wake!

jk I'm ready to do what it takes for a team win! I'm really looking forward to having a few teammates this year. It's been a solo effort the last 2 years for me.
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We should have a great 3 team...

should being the operative word.

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Speaking of racing...Aaron you have mail over at the calpools site
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Originally Posted by Crash716
I'll be at red trolley getting a lead out from Agoddale!!
does one really need a lead out for a mid pack finish?
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More skippy smack talk. Why weren't you at the CX race woosie?
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Originally Posted by igoyippy4skippy
does one really need a lead out for a mid pack finish?
suck it trebeck
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My CX season is over. Me bike is broken. Time to focus on getting a race bike built for the road in time for red trolley. Got a new magic skin suit for this coming up season. i will not be stopped
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Originally Posted by Crash716
I'll be at red trolley getting a lead out from Agoddale!!
Don't get stuck in the crash like this year...

Edit: Wait, Aaron upgraded.

Edit 2: Did you upgrade also?
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Should be at Blvd this year in the 3's or 35+, not sure why I keep coming back for more? Hopefully it doesn't snow this year, last year was the most ridiculous race I've been in.
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