a new breed of cyclists
06-11-10, 12:31 PM
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BECAUSE: Tho they walk through the valley of death, they fear no evil, for they are the baddest mofos around. 
06-11-10, 06:58 PM
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Zen Buddhism is a religion. Spiritual enlightenment through meditation.
I don't know how much meditation you can really do by a riding style that smells the roses and sweats through the climbs. Or the Zen simplicity of a multi geared bike. I have yet to see a Buddhist monk on the SART.
I don't know how much meditation you can really do by a riding style that smells the roses and sweats through the climbs. Or the Zen simplicity of a multi geared bike. I have yet to see a Buddhist monk on the SART.
Yeah well I saw a whole bunch of them on the fuel dock at Marina Del Rey once so keep you're eyes open, they get around.
06-11-10, 08:31 PM
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Almost everyone in the local touring club here is exactly as you described. They tend to be an older crowd, but they definitely are in it for enjoyment but aren't afraid to encourage young guns to go for it blazing while being content cruising in the back. I love doing easy rides with them - very social and cool routes that I'd never do on my typical hammerfest training rides.
I actually don't think they're rare at all - in fact, in the over 50 crowd, it's probably the norm. (Speaking as someone who's not over 50 myself...)
I actually don't think they're rare at all - in fact, in the over 50 crowd, it's probably the norm. (Speaking as someone who's not over 50 myself...)
06-12-10, 06:46 AM
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I'm sure they get around, but meditating while riding? I think its not really meditating but mostly letting one's mind wander with thoughts here and there. In meditation there is actually a conscious effort to empty oneself. I cannot see how a rider can do both.
06-12-10, 03:34 PM
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06-12-10, 11:50 PM
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I can maybe kinda see where the OP is coming from -- look at his location. Here in Orange County I see a lot of older men and women -- 60+ years old -- riding the latest carbon bikes and racing wheels, wearing team kit so new the team hasn't been announced yet, and with Brooks saddles and about a foot of spacers under the stem. They're all going flat out, dripping sweat, and staring into their combination speedometer/odometer/heart rate monitor/power meter, regardless of how beautiful the scenery might be. I don't say anything because for all I know they are doing exactly what they want to be doing, but I can't help but wonder if maybe the local Performance is doing them a disservice.
Around here the assumption seems to be that recreational riding requires racing bikes, fancy clothing, and maximum effort at all times. So I can see how someone might feel the need to explain the options.
Around here the assumption seems to be that recreational riding requires racing bikes, fancy clothing, and maximum effort at all times. So I can see how someone might feel the need to explain the options.
06-13-10, 07:54 AM
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these are the cyclists that will ride just to "explore"
they do not race
they do not feel the need to go faster when they get passed by a fellow cyclist along the route
the only time they will give chase, follow or attack to lose a fellow cyclist is when they feel their personal space and isolation become violated
these are the cyclists that ride for the time to contemplate
to get their heart rates up and give themselves a natural high through exercise
these are the cyclists that feel they become more enlightened with every pedal stroke
these are the cyclists that go out there just to see what is out there
these are the cyclists that prefer to be on their bicycles to enjoy the scenery rather than use gas and pollute the environment in their automobiles
this breed of cyclist is rare.
also this breed of cyclist would never be caught dead in bibs
this cyclist is out there to enjoy life
he does not care about his average mph
he does not care for his ability to punish himself on the mountains
the only time he goes fast is when he wants to FEEL what its like to go fast, as he cuts through the air and feels the molecules brush up against his skin
this cyclist enjoys the ride
and he cares not for competition against fellow man
for he sees the world to be good enough and beautiful
this cyclist, whether it be he or she
is the ultimate zen master[/COLOR]
they do not race
they do not feel the need to go faster when they get passed by a fellow cyclist along the route
the only time they will give chase, follow or attack to lose a fellow cyclist is when they feel their personal space and isolation become violated
these are the cyclists that ride for the time to contemplate
to get their heart rates up and give themselves a natural high through exercise
these are the cyclists that feel they become more enlightened with every pedal stroke
these are the cyclists that go out there just to see what is out there
these are the cyclists that prefer to be on their bicycles to enjoy the scenery rather than use gas and pollute the environment in their automobiles
this breed of cyclist is rare.
also this breed of cyclist would never be caught dead in bibs
this cyclist is out there to enjoy life
he does not care about his average mph
he does not care for his ability to punish himself on the mountains
the only time he goes fast is when he wants to FEEL what its like to go fast, as he cuts through the air and feels the molecules brush up against his skin
this cyclist enjoys the ride
and he cares not for competition against fellow man
for he sees the world to be good enough and beautiful
this cyclist, whether it be he or she
is the ultimate zen master[/COLOR]
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06-13-10, 08:02 AM
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I can maybe kinda see where the OP is coming from -- look at his location. Here in Orange County I see a lot of older men and women -- 60+ years old -- riding the latest carbon bikes and racing wheels, wearing team kit so new the team hasn't been announced yet, and with Brooks saddles and about a foot of spacers under the stem. They're all going flat out, dripping sweat, and staring into their combination speedometer/odometer/heart rate monitor/power meter, regardless of how beautiful the scenery might be. I don't say anything because for all I know they are doing exactly what they want to be doing, but I can't help but wonder if maybe the local Performance is doing them a disservice.
Around here the assumption seems to be that recreational riding requires racing bikes, fancy clothing, and maximum effort at all times. So I can see how someone might feel the need to explain the options.
Around here the assumption seems to be that recreational riding requires racing bikes, fancy clothing, and maximum effort at all times. So I can see how someone might feel the need to explain the options.
06-15-10, 10:17 AM
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Good thread
So true.
What's funny is most of these "hammerfest" guys probably don't even compete. Which is kind of sad because they are missing a lot on their ride staring at their gps or power meters.
I think most train for distance rather than speed no? To train for speed you must be training to compete or maybe your personal best time?
What's funny is most of these "hammerfest" guys probably don't even compete. Which is kind of sad because they are missing a lot on their ride staring at their gps or power meters.
I think most train for distance rather than speed no? To train for speed you must be training to compete or maybe your personal best time?
06-15-10, 11:35 AM
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So true.
What's funny is most of these "hammerfest" guys probably don't even compete. Which is kind of sad because they are missing a lot on their ride staring at their gps or power meters.
I think most train for distance rather than speed no? To train for speed you must be training to compete or maybe your personal best time?
What's funny is most of these "hammerfest" guys probably don't even compete. Which is kind of sad because they are missing a lot on their ride staring at their gps or power meters.
I think most train for distance rather than speed no? To train for speed you must be training to compete or maybe your personal best time?
06-15-10, 12:02 PM
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You gonna eat that?
06-15-10, 12:08 PM
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06-15-10, 12:16 PM
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You gonna eat that?
Oh, here we go again. Chill d00d. Get some zen or something.
No, not lost. I know exactly where I am.
No, not lost. I know exactly where I am.
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I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.
Originally Posted by bragi 
"However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."
I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.
Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."
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06-15-10, 01:36 PM
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You gonna eat that?
Okay then.... I was just about to say I fully agree with what you said in your first comment in this thread.
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I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.
Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."
I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.
Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."
06-15-10, 01:37 PM
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This is called the fun movement, it's open to people of all ages, from all backgrounds, and all non-cyclists as well. It's old news.
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06-15-10, 09:32 PM
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So true.
What's funny is most of these "hammerfest" guys probably don't even compete. Which is kind of sad because they are missing a lot on their ride staring at their gps or power meters.
I think most train for distance rather than speed no? To train for speed you must be training to compete or maybe your personal best time?
What's funny is most of these "hammerfest" guys probably don't even compete. Which is kind of sad because they are missing a lot on their ride staring at their gps or power meters.
I think most train for distance rather than speed no? To train for speed you must be training to compete or maybe your personal best time?
06-16-10, 09:50 AM
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Shouldn't that be "New Breed of Cyclist"?
Anyway, nothing new about the breed. The beauty of cycling is that it's broad enough to embrace both the hammerfester and the tourfester.
Anyway, nothing new about the breed. The beauty of cycling is that it's broad enough to embrace both the hammerfester and the tourfester.
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06-16-10, 10:11 AM
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The essential wrongness of an "ultimate" zen master is a delicious irony! Unless your model of life is some kind of video game, I suppose.
I'd say there's at least one cyclist here who's not "Hollow" at all. Pretty full of it, actually...
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