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Old 09-20-10, 04:59 PM   #1
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Riders on GMR....... What's Your Take?

I'd like to hear what others think.

Gina and I are riding up GMR Saturday Morning. On the way we are getting passed rider after rider. Couple riders deep in concentration so no eye contact which is understandable. We're passed by jsut about every rider up there but no big deal IMO, it's making it up and the "Just Do It" that means anything when doing a ride like GMR. Actually getting out there and giving it a try is a big plus for any rider. So when Gina "Does It" that's more than enough to make me proud.

So is there a difference in GMR riders? The reason I ask, on the way up and getting passed left and right by other riders, maybe 10 times a rider rode by and shouted "good job" or "you're doing great" to Gina.

Another two times as we arrived at the shack!

10 times on one ride?...I've heard that maybe twice in 15 years on the trail.

So what is it, are GMR riders more encouraging?
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Old 09-20-10, 06:12 PM   #2
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I think it's cause everyone realizes how tough GMR can be for most. Going up Esperanza in LaVerne for SnGs I had one lady walking down it say, "good job, just a little further" and a car honk, give me a thumbs up and go "good job." Any hill that a car struggles on, gives the cyclist street-cred with the general public IMO.
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Any hill that a car struggles on, gives the cyclist street-cred with the general public IMO.
True! I've noticed that too. Climbing Grand Ave on the tandem (Mt Sac hill), one lady rolled down her window to wave at us and shout "you guys are doing great". Makes me think she is a cyclist too!...it is very encouraging and motivating IMO!
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No one told me good job when I did GMR last year but more than 10 riders came to me at the summit of
Mt Diablo in northern Californa cause I had passed them by & that was encouraging so when I go back there I'll do it again.
Gina coming up to the shack, I think she is doing great job & in no time she will make it to the village
Have safe ride out there
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Gina coming up to the shack, I think she is doing great job & in no time she will make it to the village
That's the plan Stan! ..........WASSUP ALEX!
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Gina coming up to the shack, I think she is doing great job & in no time she will make it to the village
Have safe ride out there
I think it is really cool that Gina is still out there with you riding and doing stuff like GMR. Give her my thumbs up for me
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I think it is really cool that Gina is still out there with you riding and doing stuff like GMR. Give her my thumbs up for me

.....and loving it!...I'll let her know about the thumbs up!
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Beanz, I think it's somewhat similar to triathlons where the last finisher gets bigger cheers than the winner. An effort like GMR is tough enough for someone like VerticalBob or UMD but when someone with a lower level of fitness takes it on, it's that much more impressive.
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I got plenty of kudos from riders and a thumbs up from a biker couple last Saturday when riding up 39 pulling a Burley trailer.

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So is there a difference in GMR riders? The reason I ask, on the way up and getting passed left and right by other riders, maybe 10 times a rider rode by and shouted "good job" or "you're doing great" to Gina.

Another two times as we arrived at the shack!

10 times on one ride?...I've heard that maybe twice in 15 years on the trail.

So what is it, are GMR riders more encouraging?
I've got a similar observation on GMR. The guys that pass me are usually friendly and supportive. I don't even get nasty comments about my helmet on GMR (well, maybe once or twice but nothing like in OC). I think this is because the guys that ride GMR do it for sport, while the guys on the trail (I guess you've got SART in mind) ride there mainly for fun. It's like drinking beer in the pub - very seldom somebody will walk up to you and say "Hey, you're doing great dude! Keep it up, you're killing that beer!".
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I've got a similar observation on GMR. The guys that pass me are usually friendly and supportive. I don't even get nasty comments about my helmet on GMR (well, maybe once or twice but nothing like in OC). I think this is because the guys that ride GMR do it for sport, while the guys on the trail (I guess you've got SART in mind) ride there mainly for fun. It's like drinking beer in the pub - very seldom somebody will walk up to you and say "Hey, you're doing great dude! Keep it up, you're killing that beer!".
So where is a picture of this helmet?
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GMR is a good long consistent grade. Makes for a nice ride.

Does the amount of altitude gained or time in pursuit matter? To some, yes. Others, no.

Does interaction with like minded others matter. Again ...

Perhaps, it can be the solitude in the crowd, the silence in the noise, that a good long uphill ride affords. That can be the most appealing feature.

You must be true to the task. Turning pedal after pedal. Lest you remain in place. This in itself provides the respite from the world of daily obligation. And with that release, a choice to not be interpreted. But to be free to enjoy the moment.

Since the Station Fire of 2009, Angeles Crest Hwy, my normal route of meditation has been closed. As I normally choose to start and finish my rides from my house, I find it out of the ordinary to partake in the GMR, though I have. It felt as though I was just visiting. I didn't know the turns and switches. Or recognize any faces. But I can understand how those who call this ride theirs feel.
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GMR is a good long consistent grade. Makes for a nice ride.

Does the amount of altitude gained or time in pursuit matter? To some, yes. Others, no.

Does interaction with like minded others matter. Again ...

Perhaps, it can be the solitude in the crowd, the silence in the noise, that a good long uphill ride affords. That can be the most appealing feature.

You must be true to the task. Turning pedal after pedal. Lest you remain in place. This in itself provides the respite from the world of daily obligation. And with that release, a choice to not be interpreted. But to be free to enjoy the moment.

Since the Station Fire of 2009, Angeles Crest Hwy, my normal route of meditation has been closed. As I normally choose to start and finish my rides from my house, I find it out of the ordinary to partake in the GMR, though I have. It felt as though I was just visiting. I didn't know the turns and switches. Or recognize any faces. But I can understand how those who call this ride theirs feel.
Very well put. Thoughtful.
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Very well put. Thoughtful.
Agreed. I wish I had GMR or something similar as my local ride.
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I think its the atmosphere more then anything. The same riders that wont say anything to you on SART as they ride past I bet are more likely to make a friendly comment or gesture on a road like GMR.

I have no issues with the atmosphere riding on sart, I do prefer GMR's though. I think riding up mountain roads like GMR are a more personal experience. The few people you do run into have a greater sense of whats going on around them including the efforts of other riders. When we are up there we all share the common pursuit to reach the top, its only natural to lift moral of everyone and cheer on those who are really pushing.
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I think riding up mountain roads like GMR are a more personal experience. The few people you do run into have a greater sense of whats going on around them including the efforts of other riders. When we are up there we all share the common pursuit to reach the top, its only natural to lift moral of everyone and cheer on those who are really pushing.
Nice!...There is "the reason" I keep trying to talk the SART group into riding GMR. They just look at me like I'm crazy!
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So where is a picture of this helmet?
Check my avatar, if you can't see the helmet, here is a larger picture (yes, I did buy the picture but when I post it here it comes out way too big).
By the way, this photo was taken on Palomar on a BF ride. Robertcat is organizing a ride up there again, and you're all welcome. I know Beanz is not very keen to drive there, but if we all try hard enough, maybe we'll convince him.
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Check my avatar, if you can't see the helmet, here is a larger picture (yes, I did buy the picture but when I post it here it comes out way too big).
By the way, this photo was taken on Palomar on a BF ride. Robertcat is organizing a ride up there again, and you're all welcome. I know Beanz is not very keen to drive there, but if we all try hard enough, maybe we'll convince him.
There it is!

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Check my avatar, if you can't see the helmet, here is a larger picture
Awwwww, now I see it. Like that color, it's purrrrrrrrty. Nice ventilation with that model.
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There it is!

Nice shop job there Fred. Almost looks ..... awwww no it doesn't. Nice shop job. LOL
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Awwwww, now I see it. Like that color, it's purrrrrrrrty. Nice ventilation with that model.
Thank you gentlemen! You just proved what I've been saying all along - my helmet is one of these that only smart people can see.
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I don't even get nasty comments about my helmet on GMR (well, maybe once or twice but nothing like in OC).
You're doing it wrong, Jimmy. Ditch the roadiesszzz kit and geared bike, wear regular clothes and ride a fixed gear conversion. Either the doofi haranguing you are afraid of me, or just don't seem to care about someone who is not similar to "them" in most ways. There's also a certain satisfaction to ripping around on a 22lb steel fixed gear conversion in a t-shirt, Carhartt shorts and Tevas just because you don't really need the latest/greatest to go fast.
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It's like drinking beer in the pub - very seldom somebody will walk up to you and say "Hey, you're doing great dude! Keep it up, you're killing that beer!".



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You guys are luring me in. May need to try GMR one of these days. It's funny that on the flats, I get faster every time I ride, but even short hills beat me up. Not sure how long I can climb for, continusly, that is.
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You guys are luring me in. May need to try GMR one of these days. It's funny that on the flats, I get faster every time I ride, but even short hills beat me up. Not sure how long I can climb for, continusly, that is.
Many riders have this idea that they could never do along climb cause the short ones hurt. But once you settle into a climb, it's more comfortable after your body finds a groove. Too many times Gina has wanted to give up on the first mile or two but once she warms up, she relaxes and the climb is more tolerable. On a short climb, you suffer cause you never really get into the groove. Evertime I do GMR, I get the feeling that I might not make the climb. But experience tells me to relax, let the body warm up and I'll be fine. I still see it in m videos. the frist 2 miles, I'm huffing and puffing while my lungs are expanding/ warming up, but in the later miles, my breathing is more relaxed....it's a mind game!
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