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    Cyclist in critical condition at UCI Med Center

    I originally posted in the "cyclist killed at GMR"

    But in Huntington Beach on PCH near Seapoint, there was a traffic accident Sunday morning.

    the O.C. Register

    http://www.ocregister.com/news/polic...h-lauwers.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garfield Cat View Post
    I originally posted in the "cyclist killed at GMR"

    But in Huntington Beach on PCH near Seapoint, there was a traffic accident Sunday morning.

    the O.C. Register

    http://www.ocregister.com/news/polic...h-lauwers.html
    Unbelievable! A 57 and a 36 year old racing cars. You'll think only teenagers do that kinda stuff. I ride by that sport all the time, and it is just frightening that cyclist are not even safe on a multi-trail.

    I hope Mr. Lauwers pulls through.
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    Good gosh he was on a bike trail!!!! Just minding his own business... more and more I like the fact I've started mountain biking - out and away from cars!
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    My gf and I were riding on the path when we noticed the wreckage of both cars, super scary stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamestique View Post
    Good gosh he was on a bike trail!!!! Just minding his own business... more and more I like the fact I've started mountain biking - out and away from cars!
    Well, you could get eaten by a mountain lion, wouldn't you say? Mountain biking is kinda interesting and alluring to me, but I just don't like to be in an environment where I'm not at the top of the food chain. You know, like within Long Beach and Irvine city limits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jed19 View Post
    Well, you could get eaten by a mountain lion, wouldn't you say? Mountain biking is kinda interesting and alluring to me, but I just don't like to be in an environment where I'm not at the top of the food chain. You know, like within Long Beach and Irvine city limits.
    I think the big cats are mostly nocturnal hunters. If you go riding close to hunting time, then its not good. That might mean late afternoon. If the big cats did not get a meal, then they hunt during early mornings.

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    Anne Hjelle was attacked around 4 p.m., and the guy the same cat killed and ate was killed a few hours before. There have been many attacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jed19 View Post
    Well, you could get eaten by a mountain lion, wouldn't you say? Mountain biking is kinda interesting and alluring to me, but I just don't like to be in an environment where I'm not at the top of the food chain. You know, like within Long Beach and Irvine city limits.
    Oh this is all too real to me. I was riding up in Black Star Canyon last year and I heard the most guttural, low, deep growl I've ever heard in my life. I never saw anything but the hair stood up on the back of my neck and my head was on a 360 swivel back to the car.

    We've infringed on their territory, taken away most of their natural habitat and food sources and then taunt them with riding alone in isolated areas.

    I'd much rather take my chances on a road bike on Santiago Canyon or PCH than ride alone up in the mountains on my mountain bike. No thank you!

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    The safest thing to do is stay in doors and ride your trainer. There's no way you can get hit by a car or get eaten my a mountain lion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John R View Post
    The safest thing to do is stay in doors and ride your trainer. There's no way you can get hit by a car or get eaten my a mountain lion.
    Good point John R. If we do that, we'd live to be 100 years old; but, it will seem like 200 (to paraphrase Churchill).

    If we are careful, diligent and disciplined, we can limit the risk of both Road Cycling and Mountain Biking, both of which are wonderful sports and have their own merits. Neither of these are without risk, but not many things are.

    I rode GMR for the first time the day Kevin Unck died. While I didn't know him, I have thought a lot about him and what happened that day. And about the cyclist injured on the bike trail in HB.

    And I decided to do what I think Mr. Unck would do if he were in my shoes and learned that a rider died--keep riding and spend some extra time with my family and dear friends and try not to take life for granted and to focus less of my attention on the future and more on the present.

    I learned last night that a memorial ride is scheduled for this Saturday in his honor:

    Kevin Unck Memorial Ride

    http://www.cyclingconnection.org/Kevin_Unck.html

    Saturday January 22 at 8:00 AM

    It’s A Grind Coffee House - Day Creek & Baseline
    7325 Day Creek Blvd., Suite 103
    Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91739

    This Saturday's Grind Ride will be a Memorial ride in honor of Kevin Unck. Please spread the word and save the date.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jed19 View Post
    Well, you could get eaten by a mountain lion, wouldn't you say? Mountain biking is kinda interesting and alluring to me, but I just don't like to be in an environment where I'm not at the top of the food chain. You know, like within Long Beach and Irvine city limits.
    The probability of being eaten by a mountain lion is so low as to be non-existant. Getting hit by a car... well that's pretty high. I take my chances with the lion any day!
    It pays to be educated (as most mountain bikers are) as to the animals out there and how they live. Lions eat deer. No other food. They hunt primarily at dusk and night. The only thing that scares me out on trails are other humans!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyThePinhead View Post
    Anne Hjelle was attacked around 4 p.m., and the guy the same cat killed and ate was killed a few hours before. There have been many attacks.
    The lion that attack Ann and Mark was a young male whose mother had been killed on Santiago months earlier. He had not been taught how to hunt properly so was starving. Mark was a very small man. He was riding at dusk and forgot he was in lion territory. Bending over fixing his bike, back to the trail, he was easy prey. Ann was attack because unfortunately the young male was protecting his prey. JUst a weird circumstance. Very sad... but very rare. If nothing else, most mountain bikers learned a lesson for it. But if it keeps folks off the trails, better for me. It's getting too crowded as it is!

    BTW - every week someone posts a cyclist is killed or injured on the road... when was the last time someone posted they were attacked by a lion?
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