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Old 01-13-11, 10:40 AM   #1
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CUI ??? Cycling under the influence ? Really ???

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Old 01-13-11, 10:49 AM   #2
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At least in California it's a separate section of the vehicle code with its own penalty. In many states it can be prosecuted under the much harsher motor vehicle DUI codes.
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The tickets for riding drunk should be as high as in a car.
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I respectfully disagree. I don't make a habit of riding (or driving) around while under the influence, but one can cause a good deal more death & damage with a several thousand pound car which is capable of traveling 70 or more MPH than one can with a 20-40 pound bicycle traveling at maybe 20-25. I'm glad the law takes into account that distinction.
IMO the distinction doesn't really encourage drunken cycling.

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VA it's the same as driving drunk in a car.
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IMO the distinction doesn't really encourage drunken cycling.
It may discourage drunk driving. Check out the bike parking at some of the beach and downtown bars in our area during the summer. They're full.

I get woke up about once a year from drunken 2 am beach cruiser crashes. They might be sore when they sober up but I haven't had to call the medics yet.
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The tickets for riding drunk should be as high as in a car.
Strongly disagree. If someone who is intoxicated is going to try transporting themselves home I'd much rather they choose to do so on a bicycle than in a car. The chance that they will seriously injure or kill someone else is vastly greater if they get behind the wheel of a car and the severity of the legal punishment should reflect that.
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Those are the guys LBPD is after, but just couldn't catch up with.
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I respectfully disagree. I don't make a habit of riding (or driving) around while under the influence, but one can cause a good deal more death & damage with a several thousand pound car which is capable of traveling 70 or more MPH than one can with a 20-40 pound bicycle traveling at maybe 20-25. I'm glad the law takes into account that distinction.
IMO the distinction doesn't really encourage drunken cycling.
My point is, first off people label all cyclists the same. They say "you guys think you own the road". It's all perception. They think that when my team is on a training ride we are the same as the idiot Midnight Ridazz party rides. Yes the physical damage is not the same as a 2k pound car
however being drunk on the road isn't really any safer on a bike is it? Veering your nifty 1986 Bianchi Campione single speed into oncoming traffic
isn't really better for the driver who accidentally kills you and has to carry that burden for the rest of their lives.

Dying because you are drunk = Eternal Fail
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It can even end an era.

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...Veering your nifty 1986 Bianchi Campione single speed into oncoming traffic
isn't really better for the driver who accidentally kills you...
Or... how about the driver who swerves to avoid a drunk bicyclist, loses control, and then accidentally wipes out a mini van full of kids.
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So cyclists want the right sof vehicles but want their own rules too? These guys were dumb. According to the report they were going against traffic and drunk. If you are going to ride drunk, ride a beach cruiser. Just point and go.
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Veering your nifty 1986 Bianchi Campione single speed into oncoming traffic
isn't really better for the driver who accidentally kills you and has to carry that burden for the rest of their lives.
Boo hoo hoo. That driver needs to HTFU.

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Or... how about the driver who swerves to avoid a drunk bicyclist, loses control, and then accidentally wipes out a mini van full of kids.
That driver is an idiot for losing control of his vehicle and has absolutely no one but himself to blame. If you can't handle making the split second decision necessary to just hit the object(cyclist in this case) that so rudely put itself into your path rather than wipe out the family in the mini van, then don't get behind the wheel of a multi-ton death machine in the first place. Hitting the cyclist would be an "accident": wiping out the mini van would be the fault of the driver for losing control of his vehicle.



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So cyclists want the right sof vehicles but want their own rules too?
It's not a question of what they "want". The law spells out how CUI is treated vs. how DUI is treated. But I think your concept of "rights" is a little backwards. We all start out with unlimited rights, then for a variety of reasons - usually related to the impact our behavior has on other people - we accept limits on those rights and impose the same limits on others. Cyclists don't want the rights of vehicles: they started out with unlimited access to the planet and then were curtailed only as far as made sense and it is only natural that different decisions were made on laws regarding cycling than for automobiles because the two objects are not very similar in their impacts on the citizenry.
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