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Old 03-11-11, 04:45 PM   #1
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Almost Mowed Down a Commuter Today

Literally! I was at my parent's house doing their yard. While doing the front section near the street. I was using my push mower along the grass, reached the end then stepped onto the sidewalk in an attempt to turn back. This is a push mower with old style spinning blades, not a motor, I've gone green.

A soon as I pushed it onto the concrete something caught my peripheral vision. I looked up and jumped back surprised. It was a commuter, back pack and all doing about 15 mph on the sidewalk (No, not a dude on a Walmart MTB ) Lots of driveways, hedges, gates on the block, not a good idea.

I sort of jumped back in surprise then he shouted, "sorry!".

I just wanted to post this before somebody else posts a "Hispanic Landscaper Almost Mowed Me Down" thread. Idiot was pushing his push mower faster than it was safe!
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Some people just don't understand that a bike is a vehicle and belongs on the roads.
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Some people just don't understand that a bike is a vehicle and belongs on the roads.
I've seen more and more commuters. Sadly I think many, eventhough outtfitted with nice equipment, don't really understand "how to ride". I've seen more and more riding sidewalks hopping off from sidewalks not crosswalks at decent speeds. That's freaking scary when you are making a right and a bike comes flying up at 15 on a sidewalk while I'm turning at 5 mph from a stop. Happened to me a few times.

I know many are familiar with Foothill Blvd. Last week I saw some gal on a bike, looked like a pro racer go from the street to the sidewalk at Indian Hill. Off the sidewalk into the crosswalk all while blowing the red light.

Another dude going up San Antonio and above Foothill. 4 way stop, line of 4-5 cars deep, large shoulder for a rider. Dude cuts between cars at about 3 deep, then squeezes between the next two cars proceeding from the stop so that he can blow the stop signs. I point out to Gina while saying, " I'd bet if that dude gets sandwiched, he'll blame the drivers".

I've seen some really good riders/commuters out there but ........some people don't think, or have too much skill for theirown good.
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It should be mandated that all bikes sold in a store (be it a LBS or Walmart) should at least include with a booklet or instructions on safe riding principles (printed in 5 different languages).

Think about whenever you go to a pharmacy, there's always a pharmacist that takes at least a minute to talk to you about the drug you just got and how to use it safely (whether its an antibiotic or pain killer).

Bikes should be treated the same way... You buy a bike, and the guy who sells it to you should at least ask whether you know how to safely use it... It just makes sense and only takes a minute to tell someone, not to ride on the sidewalk or against traffic.
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It should be mandated that all bikes sold in a store (be it a LBS or Walmart) should at least include with a booklet or instructions on safe riding principles (printed in 5 different languages).

Think about whenever you go to a pharmacy, there's always a pharmacist that takes at least a minute to talk to you about the drug you just got and how to use it safely (whether its an antibiotic or pain killer).

Bikes should be treated the same way... You buy a bike, and the guy who sells it to you should at least ask whether you know how to safely use it... It just makes sense and only takes a minute to tell someone, not to ride on the sidewalk or against traffic.
Every bike I've purchase has the boklet. The shops have had me sign parpers to show that I've received the lit. Last wally world bike was in 92 but I did recieve a booklet back then too. Problem is people don't read the warnings and/or don't care.

Take aerobars for example. The first paper booklet you pull from the box is a wanting that says "do not descend on aerobars". Not that the search function is all that great but if it were, you'd probably find that a pretty common response to a "max speed on a mountain descent" thread will include downhill speeds posted on aerobars. OK, not all but I've seen a few.
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Personally, I'd like to see a law that says that people over the age of 8 or 9 shouldn't be allowed to ride on the sidewalk. My kids were taught to ride safely on the street at around that age.
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Personally, I'd like to see a law that says that people over the age of 8 or 9 shouldn't be allowed to ride on the sidewalk. My kids were taught to ride safely on the street at around that age.
Actually, most cities in this county DO make it illegal, not even mentioning an age restriction, although I've never seen anyone get a ticket for it. I figure the law is more to make it hard for someone to claim victim when they crash into a dog walker or mail box doing 15 mph on a 3' wide strip of concrete.
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And then there's the night riders with no lights. Usually wearing dark clothing.
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As an avid (not rabid) commuter I'm seeing this sort of thing more often and it really pisses me off! When I'm waiting politely at a stop light or sign and some A-hole blows past me through the red I get a little scared that the folks in cars are going to take out their frustration on ME. I've confronted a few of this D***heads and it's amazing the responses I hear...everything from worthless excuses to outright hostility that they got called out. GRRRR
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As an avid (not rabid) commuter I'm seeing this sort of thing more often and it really pisses me off! When I'm waiting politely at a stop light or sign and some A-hole blows past me through the red I get a little scared that the folks in cars are going to take out their frustration on ME. I've confronted a few of this D***heads and it's amazing the responses I hear...everything from worthless excuses to outright hostility that they got called out. GRRRR
I hate that also, but the thing is many of them are just on a bike riding, as opposed to being a cyclist. (At least in my area, maybe different in SoCal). Here in Florida we have a lot of people that don't consider themselves cyclist, but often ride on the roads with no regard to rules of the road. It really does make us cyclists look bad. But there's so many I feel kind of helpless in doing anything. All I can do is try and be an ambassador, of sorts, on the roads.
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As an avid (not rabid) commuter I'm seeing this sort of thing more often and it really pisses me off! When I'm waiting politely at a stop light or sign and some A-hole blows past me through the red I get a little scared that the folks in cars are going to take out their frustration on ME. I've confronted a few of this D***heads and it's amazing the responses I hear...everything from worthless excuses to outright hostility that they got called out. GRRRR
When you see the idiots like that, let the motorists see you gesturing angrily at the offending rider; at the least, it'll confuse them, and they'll be thinking about what they just saw and be less focused on the cell phone. At best, they'll do the math and figure out that you are as offended by that as they are, and realize you know what you're doing.
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but the thing is many of them are just on a bike riding, as opposed to being a cyclist. (At least in my area, maybe different in SoCal). .
There are plenty of those in SoCal too but in the OP, I tried to point out that it wasn't some dude on a dept store mtb. I see more and more "CYCLISTS" doing this type of thing. To take it a bit further, when I ride on the road, I see "CYLCLISTS" doing al sorts of things as well,. Blowing stopsign, stoplight etc. Many times it's just to pass me or other riders on the road. It's pretty obvious when you roll up on some dude, then he suddenly picks up the pace takes my wheel then I slow for a light that turns red then he sprints around blows through the intersection then keeps looking back like we were racing. I'm not risking my life for a race that I didn't know I had enetered. Yes, it's many of the "CYCLISTS" too.

I've been on rides with partners that do something illegal, unsafe etc. I'll politely mention it, "Dude, you should be careful right there, maybe it's a better idea if you stop at the sign for your own safety". Too many of the responses are "oh, I do that lll the time".

I don't have a problem with them risking their lives but I won't ride with them again.
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When you see the idiots like that, let the motorists see you gesturing angrily at the offending rider; at the least, it'll confuse them, and they'll be thinking about what they just saw and be less focused on the cell phone. At best, they'll do the math and figure out that you are as offended by that as they are, and realize you know what you're doing.
Oh you can tell that motorists see these things. I've seen cyclsits squeeze between cars, cut them off, blow through lights etc. If I happen to get the stop, I see the motorists shaking their heads, making faces, even some make comments. I'll look over at the drive and shake my head as well. Sort of a "we're not all like that" gesture and a "because that cyclist sucks, don't hit me".

And yes, right or wrong, some people are like that! ............and cyclist are people too.
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I don't have a problem with them risking their lives but I won't ride with them again.
I don't think they realize it, but I intentionally avoid grouping up with certain people on SFVBC rides. One particular ride, we were turning right at a T intersection with a 3-way stop. The car that got to the left of us first waved us through so we wouldn't have to stop. Giving validity to the term "no good deed goes unpunished", 3 of the riders directly in front of me proceeded to take the entire width of the road. One of them wasn't even next to anyone, but simply choosing to ride next to the double yellow. My calls of "CAR BACK!" were ignored, and the poor guy was stuck behind us at 15 mph for 2 whole miles before he found a safe place to pass, when riding near the shoulder for a few seconds would have let him by safely in no time.
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I wish you guys would let this thread die already. I've been on a sword & sandals Netflix spree lately, and every time I see this thread's title, it reminds me of this hideous scene in the gruesomely awful movie Caligula, which I watched for about 45 minutes before ejecting the disgusting disc. There are some things you can't unsee.

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and every time I see this thread's title, it reminds me of this hideous scene in the gruesomely awful movie Caligula,
Dude, it was only a push mower!
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Yeah, people are tools (and both cyclists and drivers are people), what can I say?
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Bad cyclists are a real problem for the rest of us and it's not a regional thing, seems to happen all over the place http://articles.sfgate.com/2008-03-2...lition-drivers

I wonder if it's because we all learned how to ride a bike as a kid and being kids we never were really concerned with rules of the road.
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...there I was, moseying along on a morning ride and minding my own business, when some maniac attacked me while brandishing a push mower...
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Kind of unrelated
Hey, I'm looking for a mower and was t hinking about going green. Where can I get one ? Do they do the job ? All I can think of is the old 300 lb rusty one we used touse when I was a kid. Are they any better now ?
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Hey, I'm looking for a mower and was t hinking about going green. Where can I get one ? Do they do the job ? All I can think of is the old 300 lb rusty one we used touse when I was a kid. Are they any better now ?
Does it work? I have no problems with it although my wussy older brother swears he'd never use one. I paid about $69 ten years ago (sure they are more by now). Blades still sharp and runs great but I keep it stored in a shed so it's not exposed to the elements 24/7.

This is last week, the day after I cut it.

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I got away from mowing by removing the bulk of grass, now I only have a fraction of the grass I used to have. Did it by mulching around all my trees, corner lot is a compost pit and garden for the rest of the yard. I don't pay for mulch, I get it from various neighborhoods that throw out their yard waste (mainly from neighborhoods that have live oaks, best looking mulch IMO). However, I can also get the stuff free from landscaper businesses, since it's eaiser for them to drop it off at my house than take it to a disposal site. Same for tree removal companies, they gladly give me their woodchips.
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I still want to talk the wife into artificial turf some day.
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I wish you guys would let this thread die already. I've been on a sword & sandals Netflix spree lately, and every time I see this thread's title, it reminds me of this hideous scene in the gruesomely awful movie Caligula, which I watched for about 45 minutes before ejecting the disgusting disc. There are some things you can't unsee.

Man, based on this, I rented the movie expecting some good ol fashioned bloody battle scenes etc. Really sucked, nothing but a bunch of flat butts and saggy boobies.

Don't rent this movie, not worth the 99 cents.
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