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    Good intermediate hills in OC?

    I am enjoying long distance rides on SART, SGRT, and PCH, but I want to mix it up and start doing short distance hilly areas. I need to start bringing the pain!

    So i'm looking for trails or routes around OC (i'm in the north coast section) that has light to intermediate hills/climbs.

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    Got a few questions.
    What kind of distances and/or time are you looking for? And do you feel pretty comfortable in traffic? Are you in Seal Beach?

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    Define light and intermediate, please.

    Examples - light, to me, is riding San Diego Creek Trail. Intermediate would be climbing Portala to the toll road.
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    Probably best area for hill work (short distance) is around Turtle Rock/Newport Coast. A group of us used to start at the park in Turtle Rock and we would go up Ridgeline, or Newport Coast, Ridgeline, San Joaquin, Spyglass etc. The route I hated (but was good for me) was up and over Newport Coast to PCH, turn right towards Corona Del Mar, go through Corona Del Mar to Back Bay, Back Bay to San Joaquin and take that all the way uo to Newport Coast again. If feeling good would add in the Ridgepark climb.
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    Check out some of the hilly routes on BCI's website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evoracer View Post
    Check out some of the hilly routes on BCI's website.
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    if you are interested. Actually look for BEAR TRAINING RIDES if you want hills...
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    "bringing the pain" doesn't describe intermediate hills. If tough climbs in Orange County are what you're after, I'd recommend heading to Yorba Linda and doing Camino de Bryant, Hidden Hills, San Antonio and Casino Ridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rooftest View Post
    "bringing the pain" doesn't describe intermediate hills. If tough climbs in Orange County are what you're after, I'd recommend heading to Yorba Linda and doing Camino de Bryant, Hidden Hills, San Antonio and Casino Ridge.
    +1

    Also, think about including this loop in Anaheim Hills in your ride: East Santa Ana Canyon, Anaheim Hills Road, East Canyon Rim Road, Serrano Ave, Imperial Highway. I think that part of East Canyon Rim Road has a 12% grade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allroy71 View Post
    Got a few questions.
    What kind of distances and/or time are you looking for? And do you feel pretty comfortable in traffic? Are you in Seal Beach?
    My normal rides are 3-4 hours, 30-50 miles. Since I want something shorter and more intense, no more than 2 hours, 20 miles.
    I am in Seal Beach yes. I am alright riding in traffic.

    Quote Originally Posted by snowman40 View Post
    Define light and intermediate, please.

    Examples - light, to me, is riding San Diego Creek Trail. Intermediate would be climbing Portala to the toll road.
    I forgot to mention that I ride SDCT. I love it. But I am looking for something more hilly, so I guess "light" isnt enough, and I'm looking for an intermediate route.

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    Also, think about including this loop in Anaheim Hills in your ride: East Santa Ana Canyon, Anaheim Hills Road, East Canyon Rim Road, Serrano Ave, Imperial Highway. I think that part of East Canyon Rim Road has a 12% grade.
    I'll check these out, thanks
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    ^Have you ridden through UCI? It is basically on the side of a hill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwandaw View Post
    +1

    Also, think about including this loop in Anaheim Hills in your ride: East Santa Ana Canyon, Anaheim Hills Road, East Canyon Rim Road, Serrano Ave, Imperial Highway. I think that part of East Canyon Rim Road has a 12% grade.
    That'll be a good 2nd half of your loop. Camino de Bryant averages 12% for about a mile.

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    I am in Long Beach, so I drive over to Palos Verdes (to avoid the fun ride through Wilmington!) I can PM you some routes that might fit the bill. Not necessarily intermediate, but if you have some good low gears, you should be okay. I like the other rides mentioned too, but the drive is a little further.

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    SGRT north, exit Beverly Blvd and up Turnball Canyon Road about a 50 mile round trip.

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    I live right next to you in E. Long Beach. These are all good suggestions. One of the shortcomings of our area is no quick access to sustained climbs. If you want to ride out the door, your choices are 17 miles south on PCH until you can make a left on Marguerite in CDM and climb up to San Joaquin. (I avoid Jamboree & MacArthur.) From there, you can ride several hills including Spyglass, Turtle Rock, Ridgeline, and Newport Coast. You are looking at a 50 mile RT to get decent hill work on that ride.

    As noted earlier, Turnbull is another option. Many people dislike the sustained boredom and ugliness of the river trails. Its 20 miles of river trail each way to get to Whittier and Turnbull Canyon. If you do this, I suggest exiting the SGRT at Mines Blvd. Its more than a mile before Beverly and light traffic roads (Mines, Broadway, Hadley) to Beverly/Turnbull. If you go there, don't limit yourself to the front side. You can do a loop and come back over Colima/Marvista. You can also ascend the back side. Going up Edgeridge gives you about a mile at just under a 10% average grade. When you come back, you can take Colima down to Leffingwell/Imperial Highway and pick up the Coyote Creek trail where if ends at Foster Rd. in La Mirada.

    You can also ride Anaheim over to Palos Verdes.

    Personally, if I want a climbing workout, I put the bike on the car and drive to either PV, Turnbull, or up to Glendora. I like to ride to the Irvine hills. Riding to PV or Turnbull is too much "garbage time" around the climbing.

    For a quick set of hill intervals, ride over to Signal Hill (PCH to 2nd to Appian Way to Colorado to Termino) and you have several routes that climb about 280 ft in distances ranging from 0.5 mi to 1 mi or about 5% to 10% average grades.

    Use the search function on connect.garmin.com or strava.com and you can get all kinds of ideas.

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    Do people really drive to Turnbull for the climbing? As long as you're in the car, continuing to the end of the 605 is well worth the payoff. (access to 39, East Fork, GMR, etc.)

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    I love the Newport Coast options, but that is only a few miles from me. Thursday I did a ride I call "The 3 Faces of Newport Coast". I came up Newport Coast from PCH, then when up and over Ridge Park/Vista Ridge and back down. Then rode around and when up San Jaoquin Hill and up and over Ridge Park/Vista Ridge again. Back down SJ and around Bonita Canyon before going up Newport Coast from East to West followed by a 3rd and final climb over Ridge Park. Total trip length as 54 miles. I don't know about altitude... MayMyRide says 3000 feet, Google My Tracks says 4200.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowman40 View Post
    ^Have you ridden through UCI? It is basically on the side of a hill.
    I work at UCI and have a short bike commute. Right when I leave my office, I head up/down one small hill for a warm up, then up California to Anteater to Bonita Canyon to Newport Coast... but that's when I make the first right into my apt community. Getting to work is fun... getting home is a sprinting workout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rooftest View Post
    Do people really drive to Turnbull for the climbing? As long as you're in the car, continuing to the end of the 605 is well worth the payoff. (access to 39, East Fork, GMR, etc.)
    Who drives to go climbing???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Feetz View Post
    Who drives to go climbing???
    +1 I don't see the point of driving anywhere to ride!! But that's probably because I'm spoiled by one of the best areas for cycling right next to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Feetz View Post
    Who drives to go climbing???
    Me. It's worth it to me to drive out to GMR and spend a day in the mountains from time to time. There's nothing on the road that compares in OC. I either have to do repeats, or hop on the mountain bike to get in climbing here.

    PS, fishymamba, nice going on the strava climbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmX View Post
    PS, fishymamba, nice going on the strava climbing.
    Thanks! Not much riding going on right now! The real riding is starting this Thursday with the Strava-Specialized challenge!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmX View Post
    Me. It's worth it to me to drive out to GMR and spend a day in the mountains from time to time. There's nothing on the road that compares in OC. I either have to do repeats, or hop on the mountain bike to get in climbing here.

    PS, fishymamba, nice going on the strava climbing.
    Exactly. If you live in Orange County, you have to drive to go climbing!

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    I'd differ on the having to leave OC for climbing. Sure, nothing real long; but lots of hills.
    Silverado Canyon is 6-9 miles of steady climbing (go past the gate, fine for roadies)
    Google or see my other posts on the 7 Sisters in Laguna area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allroy71 View Post
    I am in Long Beach, so I drive over to Palos Verdes (to avoid the fun ride through Wilmington!) I can PM you some routes that might fit the bill. Not necessarily intermediate, but if you have some good low gears, you should be okay. I like the other rides mentioned too, but the drive is a little further.
    I grew up in Wilmington and take offense to that comment. J/K. Can't blame you, I can't remember if you're allowed to ride through the series of bridges that takes you over through the cok areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpled View Post
    I'd differ on the having to leave OC for climbing. Sure, nothing real long; but lots of hills.
    Silverado Canyon is 6-9 miles of steady climbing (go past the gate, fine for roadies)
    Google or see my other posts on the 7 Sisters in Laguna area.
    Silverado canyon barely gets you 1000ft on a road bike as far as I could tell, and the 7 sisters don't really have any prolonged climbing. Pacific Island drive is only 1 mile up one side (granted it's steep at 10-12%).

    Back when I was a bit scared of climbing I was perfectly happy in OC doing the various climbs, happy with just doing my 9-12 minute bursts up a steep hill. I still do hill repeats now and then, but it's just not the same as going to Crystal lake or the village. As you say, you don't "have" to leave OC (I don't think anybody here has implied you must leave OC to climb), but with better stuff not very far away it's certainly a great idea to try the longer climbs to the north now and again.

    Racking up a 10,000ft day in the OC would have a lot of fluff miles in it.

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