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Old 03-27-12, 11:25 AM   #1
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More $$ chain better?

So I am thinking that my type of riding is a little agressive not to mention my weight and climbing also take a toll on my chain. I have the park chain checker http://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-Chai...2868678&sr=8-2 and it fits inbetween the chain both ways not to mention my chain has just started to slip when I ride. Not on hills but more so at stop lights when I am in a slightly more difficult gear. I will be getting a new chain soon at the very least to have it ready to be replaced or replace before the KOM.

I would like to know if it is worth getting better ($$$) chains, do they actually last longer? I have 105 componets and my current chain is ultegra. Given I ride about 3k miles each year but more elevation each year as well this current chain has lasted me close to 4k miles. Should I get a 105/ultegra/dura ace or does the metal matter more 5700/6600/6700 etc? It looks like Amazon has the best prices.

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Old 03-27-12, 11:35 AM   #2
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If you want the longest lasting chain possible, you'll pretty much have to go back to 8-speed.
Everything 9 speed or above doesn't last as long IMO. It's lighter, narrower, and works great, but nothing lasts as long as the old Dura Ace 7400-era, 8-speed stuff.
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Not looking for the longest lasting chain but basically the best $/lasting ratio.
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The general BF consensus on that case seems to be to get the more expensive one, and then stick with the same chain until both the chain and cassette (and perhaps even the chainrings) must be replaced. Sure, it costs more to replace the cassette and possibly also chainring, but by that time you would have bought 3-5 chains.
I've never been able to do this, because you must endure a period of mediocre shifting. But it makes sense, money-wise to do this.
Another thing you can do is be a neat-freak about your chain. Clean & lube it every week.
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So I am thinking that my type of riding is a little agressive not to mention my weight and climbing also take a toll on my chain. I have the park chain checker http://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-Chai...2868678&sr=8-2 and it fits inbetween the chain both ways not to mention my chain has just started to slip when I ride. Not on hills but more so at stop lights when I am in a slightly more difficult gear. I will be getting a new chain soon at the very least to have it ready to be replaced or replace before the KOM.

I would like to know if it is worth getting better ($$$) chains, do they actually last longer? I have 105 componets and my current chain is ultegra. Given I ride about 3k miles each year but more elevation each year as well this current chain has lasted me close to 4k miles. Should I get a 105/ultegra/dura ace or does the metal matter more 5700/6600/6700 etc? It looks like Amazon has the best prices.

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Have you used the same cassette for 4K miles ?
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Yes, the bike has much more on it then that, I wore the first chain way to long and ended up replacing the casette and chain right before BA last year.
OK I just checked my records the chain and casette are closer to 2600 miles. I could probabley ride a bit longer on it.
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Another thing you can do is be a neat-freak about your chain. Clean & lube it every week.
I try but probably clean it closer to once every month or two.
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The difference in chains is the plating. Ultegra chains are shinier than 105 chains. Dura Ace chains are shinier than Ultegra chains.

Those chain checking tools are junk. Go to Office Depot and get a steel ruler.

I replace my tires and chain every 1500-2000 miles. The front tires aren't as worn so I'll save them for spares. Cassettes last 12-15K.
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Generally:
- Top end chain: fully plated, hollow pins, maybe little holes in outer plates.
- Next to top end: Fully plated, solid pins, solid outer plates.
- 3rd from the top: Outer plates plated, inner plates black.
- 4th from the top: Inner & outer plates black.

None of this makes the chain more durable...well the plating might be useful if you never lube it.
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I use DuraAce chains just because all the exploding ultegra chains in 2010-early 2011 scared me off (I almost face planted when mine broke on a 12% grade). I'm sure ultegra chains are fine now, they just had a bad batch. Besides, the DA chains were only $45 or so. I use 'em for about 3000 miles, and clean them every 150mi.
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OK thanks everyone. I am probabely going to pick up this one http://www.amazon.com/Shimano-CN-660...2877323&sr=1-3
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Those chain checking tools are junk. Go to Office Depot and get a steel ruler.
+1. OP should read this: http://pardo.net/bike/pic/fail-004/000.html
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I use the KMC chains - these are great for both Shimano - Sram and Campy 10 speed.. They last longer than Shimano / Campy chains and shifting is still great.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-KMC-10-S...item5891ba65dd

or amazon. http://www.amazon.com/KMC-DX10SC-Bic...2880195&sr=1-1
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KMC make Shimano chains.
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ProGold Chain Gauge is good gauge. Not any different from Park tool ones other than the fact you have more measurement other than .75, 1... in practice. When using these gauges, I stick it at at least few different positions on link as chains can wear out unevenly. My Shimano 105 5700 chain lasted me around 2500 miles...(.8) KMC10SL lasted about 3000 miles...(.75 and I swapped out), SRAM 1091R is going on for last 1500 miles with no real perceptive wear... a bit surprised.
I will have to change this chain out for cheaper chain I got just for KoM with 32 tooth rear as I expect chain length to be too short for it (currently on 26t) but so far, I am quite pleased other than the noise part.
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I made this impulse buy earlier today on chainlove.com <-- the old bonktown.
Paid $26 shipped. Will let you know how it goes. Only thing i'm not sure of is how the quicklink looks on this thing will work http://www.realcyclist.com/cutter-10-speed-chain
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