Good Rides, Routes, etc in Westcheste/Marina del Rey.
Are there any riders here who are in the Westchester or Marina del Rey area of Los Angeles? I'm sort of new (~6 months) and I'm looking for any good rides/routes, group rides, hills, and anything else you guys know about (i.e streets that are good to ride on even without a bike lane and stuff like that) that's in the area. Thanks in advance!
I am sorry I don't have any direct experience with the area, except for Ballona Creek. When I want to see whats ridealbe in an area, I have some go-to sites.
I use the search function in these sites:
ride with gps
and I browse this site:
google maps with the bike function turned on, also street view
Thanks. I've already searched the forums and couldn't seem to find anything (although I did find some good group rides). I'll look at those other sites though. Do you need accounts to search Strava and Garmin connect?
I signed up with for them for free. But i think you can search without an account.
Have you tried google maps yet? Turn on the bike lane feature, it's cool.
Do you have a link? I can't seem to find the search function?
Originally Posted by allroy71
Oh wow. I didn't realize this existed. This is super helpful. Thanks a lot! Again though, does anybody have any specific routes or anything else?
Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
Last edited by oib111; 04-05-12 at 10:49 PM.
There are group rides in Marina del Rey on sundays.
One is the West LA Cycling Club that meets at 10am with a 1030am rideout. This group is on meetup.com. It is for beginners/intermediates. Rides down to Redondo Beach/Palos Verdes.
The other is for more advanced riders (I have never done it) that leaves from Dock 52 (which is a publicly owned/controlled dock in Marina Del Rey with a parking lot. They also ride out Sunday mornings but i dont know the time. They ride faster than the WLACC ride. They have a website but i dont know the link. You can find it googling. i think their group name is Doc 52 or something like that.
Thanks! Out of curiosity, is there a general rule of thumb for what the average speeds will be for beginner, intermediate, advanced rides, or does it vary per group?
My experience is limited. But from my experience a beginner pace on flat path is about 10-12mph. An advanced pace would be in the area of 18mph+.
Intermediate groups may say they do 15-18mph but whether they actually do it is not known to me.
Again my experience is limited. Some of the speed is due to the bike. Intermediate/advanced riders nowadays tend to be on full carbon frame bikes that are under 20 pounds. On beginner rides some of the participants may be on very old road bikes, hybrids or mountain bikes that may be in the 30 pound range.
I know when i bring a steel framed hybrid bike to some group rides, it is not the norm. A lot of group bike riders doing road or bike path rides were on aluminum frames with carbon forks and now they want to move on to a new all carbon bike that will reduce the weight from roughly 24 pounds to under 20 pounds. These sorts of riders are concerned about how much their seats weigh and they dont want to bring locks with them even if there is a lunch stop, because they dont want the added weight.
So if you are someone like me who rides old steel framed bikes from about 26-30 pounds and you ride with riders who are on this sub 20 pound bikes, and you bring a 3 pound lock (and dont dress in that lightweight lycra stuff (and dont not wear underwear) then obviously a rider like me is handicapped literally by about 10 pounds and thats not considering how much more I may weigh than these other riders. so if they are at 18mph and i am at 12mph some of it has to do to eqpt and clothing and lock etc.
Oh ok. Sounds like intermediate is more the pace for me. I don't think weight will be an issue. My bike is aluminum with the carbon fork, but I only weigh around 130.
Did you end up finding some good routes? I just moved back to the area. I have a 11 mile circuit that I try to do every day from Manchester at Inglewood Ave down to Pershing and back up along Westchester Parkway. Fairly short its nice for some daily exercise. You can also take Pershing north to the Ballona Creek trail, or South to Imperial and arrive at Dockweiler Beach.
I've been looking at joining some of the group rides too, pretty sure I could hang with the intermediates but I dont know about the advanced. I'm on an 80s steel frame. I keep a 20mph pace on the flat stretches easily enough, but Manchester has enough hills to bring that down a bit. Makes for a better workout so I'm not complaining though
Try the Ballona Creek trail into Culver City. You can ride it all the way to the end and back to the beach. A variation I do is to travel east on the trail to the pedestrian bridge, cross the bridge; go left to Overland. Take Overland (go right) to West LA college - about 1/2 mile or so. Enter WLA (making a left turn), take the very first right, up the hill. On the downhill take the first right - will take you to Jefferson. Go right (watch traffic) to Culver City Park. Up the hill to the top and return. You can go straight on Duquesne and pick up the MUP (left side of street) and go back. Or, if you're in the mood, go right again and ride to the Baldwin HIlls overlook - maybe 1/4 mile - and climb that hill. About 1/2 mile climb with 11-15% grades. The view is worth it, and there are restrooms and water at the visitor center. It's a gut buster.
Return to Jefferson (watch traffic) and go back to Duqesne and back to the beach. You can also ride straight on Duquesne to downtown Culver City for a well earned coffee and fatty snack.