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    Another robbery on SART...again


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    Sad. Just very sad. Glad the fellow wasn't hurt too badly.
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    I hope the victim is OK and I hope the ****** that robbed him end up in a cell with Bubba real soon.
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    Hmm was thinking about doing a self supported century with SART this Saturday... probably not in the light of what happened...

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    Bored, I think if you're through Santa Ana before 1pm you're probably safe. Between 1pm-6pm you're taking minimal additional risk, and after 6pm I'd just steer clear of Santa Ana.

    For my regular workouts I just stay north of the Stadiums usually. At least the only thing that'll get me there are serial killers that stalk the homeless.

    On weekends I'll go down to the beach if I have time...the traffic on the trail before 1pm is high enough where I feel a bit more safe. At 2pm on a Saturday I've been on the trail in santa ana and not seen anybody in either direction for as far as the eye can see, so anything goes then. Cyclists are allergic to 80 degree temps I think.
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    Damn.

    Ive been hearing about this SART as an awesome place to ride.

    I gotta remember not to go there solo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmX View Post
    Bored, I think if you're through Santa Ana before 1pm you're probably safe. Between 1pm-7pm you're taking minimal additional risk, and after 6pm I'd just steer clear of Santa Ana.

    For my regular workouts I just stay north of the Stadiums usually. At least the only thing that'll get me there are serial killers that stalk the homeless.

    On weekends I'll go down to the beach if I have time...the traffic on the trail before 1pm is high enough where I feel a bit more safe. At 2pm on a Saturday I've been on the trail in santa ana and not seen anybody in either direction for as far as the eye can see, so anything goes then. Cyclists are allergic to 80 degree temps I think.
    You know, one thing I noticed when I went though Katella this past Sunday around 6:30 AM was that there was not one homeless person sleeping at that park. Not sure if it was too early and they all get there later for the food, or what? I've never seen it that empty around there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vermilionx View Post
    Damn.

    Ive been hearing about this SART as an awesome place to ride.

    I gotta remember not to go there solo.
    It is a nice ride. Boring if you do it very often, but a nice ride if all you want to do is go fast with other people going fast on a nice, clean surface with no stop lights. As others have said, start early (you wanna stay out of the heat anyway), and be vigilant in certain areas.
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    I've ridden up SART, down SART plenty and rarely worry, but I go pretty early in the day.

    Anybody know where to get a sweatproof chest holster with a built in HR monitor? ANT+ compatibility a plus.

    Thank goodness all these gun laws are keeping guns out of the hands of the criminals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genaro View Post
    You know, one thing I noticed when I went though Katella this past Sunday around 6:30 AM was that there was not one homeless person sleeping at that park. Not sure if it was too early and they all get there later for the food, or what? I've never seen it that empty around there.
    Are the homeless served food at that park? In Costa Mesa, many of the homeless make they're way to the local food kitchens that early in the morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Feetz View Post
    Are the homeless served food at that park?
    I think they're served food every Sunday afternoon, between 3-6pm.

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    From the references in the story it appears that happened just south of the propane yard, not too far south of the 22 freeway and after you cross over the footbridge to the east side of the Santa Ana River. You could call it the next block north of where the string of bike thefts were happening a few months ago. Might not be connected to bicycling since it appears the victims weren't on bikes and might have just been in the wrong place at the right time as that's definately gang turf. Either way its sad when anybody has to be a victim.

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    I only ride it on the weekends mid morning where there is high traffic volume. I don't worry much. Lone riders at off peak times are most at risk.
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    Open carry of long guns is still legal in California and there are no restrictions on transport of a long gun. Maybe someone could rig a shotgun to their bike and send a little message to predator gangs in the area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer34 View Post
    Open carry of long guns is still legal in California and there are no restrictions on transport of a long gun. Maybe someone could rig a shotgun to their bike and send a little message to predator gangs in the area.
    my friend told me that it's not legal anymore. it's pretty recent he said that they changed it.

    either way, im out of options since i only have my kimber eclipse target II .45 ACP

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    He said LONG guns... unfortunately, those are more challenging to ride with.

    Anybody have a lead on a stem mounted turret of some sort?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    He said LONG guns... unfortunately, those are more challenging to ride with.

    Anybody have a lead on a stem mounted turret of some sort?
    well yeah, that's why i said, either way, im out of options since i only have a handgun so it didn't matter whether it was still legal or not to open carry rifles and shotties.

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    also... ARs are pretty lightweight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vermilionx View Post
    my friend told me that it's not legal anymore. it's pretty recent he said that they changed it.

    either way, im out of options since i only have my kimber eclipse target II .45 ACP

    California banned the open carry of handguns in Jan or Feb. As of right now open carry of long guns is still legal but CA politicians have a bill pending to ban that as well.

    Transport of long guns is also legal and a few people have done it while riding a bike. You might get stopped by the police, especially in anti-gun OC and LA counties but at least with the cops around you the gang members might pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vermilionx View Post
    im out of options since i only have a handgun so it didn't matter whether it was still legal or not to open carry rifles and shotties.
    You can apply for a concealed weapons permit. Are you a celebrity ? A mega donor to democratic CA politicians ? A friend of the police chief ? If so, then you are good to go !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer34 View Post
    You can apply for a concealed weapons permit. Are you a celebrity ? A mega donor to democratic CA politicians ? A friend of the police chief ? If so, then you are good to go !!
    dammit. i need to hurry and make my band famous. lolz

    or i've been thinking or getting a .22 long rifle but decided to buy wheels instead. but whatever i didn't buy, i will buy on xmas.

    i chose to get a .22 LR since it's cheap to shoot for plinking and if you headshot... the bullet doesn't make an exit wound and would just scramble somebody's brains.

    this was my choice... but it seems a good scope cost almost or even more than the gun itself. >_<


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    Quote Originally Posted by vermilionx View Post

    You could weld the tripod ends to your handlebars and just swing and fire as you peddle. Of course, working the bolt action might be a problem for your follow up shots.

    I love my .22's. I love being able to shoot them all day long for so cheap.

    Maybe a well placed round in a bike thiefs thigh would be a good idea. I dont think a head shot is appropriate for them but a non lethal wake up call seems about right.

    I;ve never ridden this SART that is so often talked about but it seems like a real adventure

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    On that news article by Salvador Hernandez, it gives you his phone number and email address. It would be a good thing to respond to Salvador to let him know that the bicycle community is concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer34 View Post
    Open carry of long guns is still legal in California and there are no restrictions on transport of a long gun. Maybe someone could rig a shotgun to their bike and send a little message to predator gangs in the area.
    And if they jump you by surprise from behind some concealment,(I believe this is a common M.O.) not only has some cholo scored a carbon bike, you have successfully armed another a$$hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuteCommando View Post
    And if they jump you by surprise from behind some concealment,(I believe this is a common M.O.) not only has some cholo scored a carbon bike, you have successfully armed another a$$hole.
    Thank you, Lone Sane Voice in the maelstrom.
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