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Old 08-27-12, 11:27 AM   #1
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So what is your opinion?

Sunday, I rode my mountain bike in Chino Hills State Park. At 4 Corners I sat chatting with others. This guy comes up on a Specialized FSR Stumpjumper. On the side it said "TESTBIKE". One of the gentleman sitting with me asked the rider "so are you trying out the bike - what do you think?". The rider said "what?" Gentleman: "The bike, are you renting it for the day - it says 'TESTBIKE' on the side?"

The rider responded "no, no, that's the model. It's the kind of bike it is or something..." Yes or "something"...Clearly the rider had no clue as there is no Specialized "TESTBIKE" model and clearly it was add-on lettering, probably from a bike shop.

After the rider left I told the gentleman "isn't it weird the rider didn't know what model bike he bought (as generally people know this stuff)". The gentleman responded "I suspect because it is a stolen bike..."

Really is is possible that someone really thought "testbike" was the model name? Is is possible he didn't realize it was a demo bike used by a shop. Or is it possible he stole the bike?

Just kindof a weird encounter...
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Old 08-27-12, 11:40 AM   #2
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I am not surprised by the ignorance suffered by the masses. Then add in some innocent miss-information and its a cluster.

Could be stolen, or could be a complete noob who didnt research and was sold a test bike as a real model by a less than honest LBS. I could believe both scenarios quite easily.
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Possibly stolen, but I wouldn't assume so based on that.
I bought two of these brand-new, unused test saddles online from a Specialized dealership in Australia. They were the previous ('09) model of the Avatar, so they clearly had no further use for them.
As far as I know, Specialized dealerships in the US never even had these test saddles, because they have a 30-day exchange program, effectively making ALL their available saddles, test saddles.


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I know that Specialized makes Test Bikes available to their dealers but I have no idea what (policy?) happens to them after they're no longer the current model year. My guess would be that they are sold, probably at discount since they would have (probably) been test ridden by several consumers back when they were current.

Plus, as Crandrew noted, some consumers are not very smart and may not have understood what a Specialized "Test Bike" is.

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I suspect someone went into a shop not knowing much about what he was looking for. The LBS saw an opportunity to move "last year's model that had been ridden a few times as a demo" and save the customer some money.
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Why would the shop not peel off the lettering then when they sold it?

I'd chalk it up to general user ignorance & assume somebody gave it to him. - I think the people who inhabit this forum are generally qualify as more interested in what they ride. The average Joe is not.
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Shops do indeed sell those test bikes. That's how I got my Red full Ultegra Roubaix for a little under $2000 (plus got a unique for 2010 paintjob). The shop left the Test Bike stickers on it, and I left them on the bike for a few weeks.

How the guy didn't know he got a test bike is dodgy. I'd think if he got 40% off MSRP he'd clearly have known it was a test bike, so I'd lean towards stolen, or the shop scammed him into thinking it was brand new.
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Or perhaps someone who knows what it is bought it at an outrageously low price on close out from an LBS, then sold it this unsuspecting guy.
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How the guy didn't know he got a test bike is dodgy. I'd think if he got 40% off MSRP he'd clearly have known it was a test bike, so I'd lean towards stolen, or the shop scammed him into thinking it was brand new.
It was interesting... the group he was with were clearly not greatly experienced but they were doing some tougher trails. I just find that most people at least understand the bike and model... by the way, I also chuckled cause this dude was about 5'3" and he was riding a medium 29er; the bike was way too big. So either it was a smoking deal and he could not pass up the offer or he stole it. I realize now I should have say more, but then again, what's the point...
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There are, in fact, "testbike" sub-models of Specialized bicycles, they come in unique colors and they are labeled "testbike" by the factory. It is not necessarily a bike that's been used as a demo. He could've gotten a brand new testbike straight out of the box. In this case, there's no reason for the shop to give a big discount off MSRP, it's just like a regular FSR Stumpjumper but with a different paint scheme.
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spesh test bikes are logo'd and usually a different color then their retail bikes. Its like a neon red color on this yrs bikes.

I'd guess it some newb that was renting it for the day/week and didn't realize the logo there.
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I saw those bike for sale at Cyclery USA. I think they were all black and Red and mainly in a small size. I am guessing other shops have them as well. He was probably just getting into riding.
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I saw those bike for sale at Cyclery USA. I think they were all black and Red and mainly in a small size. I am guessing other shops have them as well. He was probably just getting into riding.
That was exactly the bike! Well good to know it most likely was not stolen. I wil have to watch for him again...

edited to add: You are right. Shops are selling these bikes. My thought: that Testbike sticker would be peeled off immediately!
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My thought: that Testbike sticker would be peeled off immediately!
Maybe he thinks he's like a test pilot.
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August 24 - Mima-Porter#8 trail in Capitol Forest - just SW of Olympia, WA

I stopped to talk to three riders from Maine who were there to race in the NW Epic Series 50/100 mile race on the 25th (http://www.nwepicseries.com/events/a...-50mile100mile)

The tall thin guy who looked most serious was on a 29" Specialized hardtail - red/black with TEST BIKE on the down tube. It was his bike and he had brought it from Maine to compete in races in the West this summer
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So either it was a smoking deal and he could not pass up the offer or he stole it. I realize now I should have say more, but then again, what's the point...
Yes, you are so right. There could not be any other possible explaination for him having the bike. Glad to see that you were real quick to make the asumption that it was stolen. But wait, you find out that they are sold with the stickers still on, imagine that. This thread was poorly thought out on your side, and should never have been written. Try being a little more sure of your facts before calling people a thief.
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Yes, you are so right. There could not be any other possible explaination for him having the bike. Glad to see that you were real quick to make the asumption that it was stolen. But wait, you find out that they are sold with the stickers still on, imagine that. This thread was poorly thought out on your side, and should never have been written. Try being a little more sure of your facts before calling people a thief.
Easy Basher. She didn't state any names or descriptions, only what she saw and her first impression.
It's hard not to be suspicious and cynical with all the lurid tales of muggings and thefts in this very forum. Don't remember where, but there are some photos flying around of the tanned guy with tattooed arms who swiped a demo bike flying around. Nevermind: here they are.

Pam simply asked us for our opinions on this dubious circumstance, and we gave them, and I hope, assuaged some of her doubts.
She pointed no accusing finger, nor does she deserve any accusatory fingers. It was a simple mistaken assumption.
I'm glad we have this kind of meeting place where we can state our observations and see what everyone else thinks. But let's trust and be gentle with each other in here.

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Chris, my arguement is not with you. But it is stated in her OP "Really is is possible that someone really thought "testbike" was the model name? Is is possible he didn't realize it was a demo bike used by a shop. Or is it possible he stole the bike?"
So she is saying either the guy is ignorant when it comes to bike model names and whether or not it was a demo bike, or she is calling him a thief. Think about it. Most people that are low life enough to steal bikes do not turn around and ride them, they sell them. They for sure do not take them to Chino State Park where any one of hundreds of other riders might recognize the bike. Sure, people have been mugged and bikes have been stolen, but that doesn't make every short rider on a misfitted bike that has a test bike sticker on it a thief. And as a last thought from me, as you stated, she asked for opinions and she got mine. She should have put more thought into this before posting.
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Chris, my arguement is not with you. But it is stated in her OP "Really is is possible that someone really thought "testbike" was the model name? Is is possible he didn't realize it was a demo bike used by a shop. Or is it possible he stole the bike?"
So she is saying either the guy is ignorant when it comes to bike model names and whether or not it was a demo bike, or she is calling him a thief. Think about it. Most people that are low life enough to steal bikes do not turn around and ride them, they sell them. They for sure do not take them to Chino State Park where any one of hundreds of other riders might recognize the bike. Sure, people have been mugged and bikes have been stolen, but that doesn't make every short rider on a misfitted bike that has a test bike sticker on it a thief. And as a last thought from me, as you stated, she asked for opinions and she got mine. She should have put more thought into this before posting.
It was one of the people she was talking with that asked the questions of the guy, not Pam. It was one of the people she was talking with that suggested it was stolen, not Pam.
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Sorry to cause a fuss; so not my intent.

I never thought the bike stolen; that was offered by the gentleman who I was sitting with at 4 Corners. I did think, and I admit it, it odd that someone does not know a model of bike they are riding. It was fairly new and looked expensive. Generally, but I admit not always, people buying those bikes can tell you "...its a Specialized blah blah blah, the components are blah-blah-blah", etc. After the man said it was stolen I did wonder if that could be the case since the rider knew nothing of the bike which is why I posted here to get your opinions.

I am still of the assumption the man was sold a bike and didn't know what he bought... he just knew it was a "29er" (rather or not it fit him was irrelevant) and it was discounted. Good enough for some people... would love to know what shop sold him the bike... I would have more a bone to pick with the shop than anything else.
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