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    Ride Report - OC Metric and suffering in the heat!

    So my friend Kathy and I decided Sunday to do a nice long road ride since 1) most of the dirt trails in OC are too sandy (we need a good Santa Ana Wind to blow the dust away) and 2) it has been so hot we figured the road would be cooler. I also heard Sunday was suppose to get cooler... that weather report was wrong.

    We started at Citrus Ranch Park (Jamboree and Portola) and climbed Jamboree and headed through the Canyon. Early (7am) it was still cool and pleasant. We headed down towards Cook Corner and then back up Glenn Ranch. I could feel the heat rising but it still wasn't bad. We took Portola to Alton and then had a long, cool down hill. We stayed on Alton to Laguna Canyon to Quail Hill to the bike trail to University. I started to get hungry so stopped and had an energy bar. We took University to Eastbluff to Back Bay. Although along the water, I was getting hot. I assumed it was because I was getting bonky and was out of shape. I struggled to get around BAck Bay and head back up to Citrus Ranch Park.

    The last mile was the hardest. I had started whining going past UCI. Kathy is a "no whining" type of gal but she offered to ride ahead and bring back my car. "no", I said stubbornly "I can make it back even if it kills me...". We did cut the route alittle short because I had bonked, was dehydrated and almost delusional. That last mile was painful. Somewhere along the route I should have stop to get something to eat. My bad.

    Anyway, total time (stopping and riding) was 5 hours 15 minutes. Distance 59 miles. It took me awhile to get my bike put away and get in the car. When I turned it on the temperature gauge showed 93 degrees! Yipes! No wonder i felt sick. I don't do well in temps over 80 as it is. I love the route and look forward to doing it again... when it's cooler!
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    I did something similar on Sunday, but i started later in Whittier and rode down Tustin to Nohl Ranch, then Cannon () and then up to Santiago. I can't remember what that little bike path is (Aliso something) that starts right past cook's corner but I really enjoyed that particular downhill stretch, ending up in Capistrano (which is also unusually hot for Orange county).

    My garmin said it was 105 for my ride through Santiago canyon. It was about 90 when I started at 9 am. Sure, it was a dry heat but it was still oven hot. I made a point of eating more than I would normally on a 50 mile ride but the heat still drains you. I also can't wait till the weather cools down.

    Congrats on finishing.

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    Egads your ride made my mine seem piddly. And starting at 9! I was dying around then.

    I know better about eating... my friend is an animal and I was holding her up anyway so we really didn't stop to find food. I had envisioned a leisurely ride with a coffee stop inbetween. Cannon no matter the time of year or day is a tough climb. Was this a round trip of point to point?

    And it was not a dry heat - humidity for the day was around 60% especially later. So I am really impressed!
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    It was definitely humid, still is today with dew points around 60 degrees which combined with 90+ degree temps makes for rough riding conditions (it hit 98 degrees here yesterday.) Oh well, 3 more weeks and hopefully this heat will be gone for good.

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    It still felt like an oven! No, your ride was longer, here's mine. http://app.strava.com/rides/21464179 I just rode down to the games and hitched a ride back with the family.

    My son had a pair of soccer games in San Juan Capistrano (we actually got a few raindrops on us later in the day, which was refreshing but not refreshing enough).

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    TH - that actually sounds like a fun ride... although getting out of Whitter I assume was alittle rough. And your route may have been shorter but I thinkl definitely harder. It's not about quantity is about quality!

    Haven't decided what to do tonight - not certain I can stand hte heat again. Might go do a walk or maybe hit spin class instead...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamestique View Post
    So my friend Kathy and I decided Sunday to do a nice long road ride since 1) most of the dirt trails in OC are too sandy (we need a good Santa Ana Wind to blow the dust away) and 2) it has been so hot we figured the road would be cooler. I also heard Sunday was suppose to get cooler... that weather report was wrong.

    We started at Citrus Ranch Park (Jamboree and Portola) and climbed Jamboree and headed through the
    Canyon. Early (7am) it was still cool and pleasant. We headed down towards Cook Corner and then back up Glenn Ranch. I could feel the heat rising but it still wasn't bad. We took Portola to Alton and then had a
    long, cool down hill. We stayed on Alton to Laguna Canyon to Quail Hill to the bike trail to University. I
    started to get hungry so stopped and had an energy bar. We took University to Eastbluff to Back Bay. Although along the water, I was getting hot. I assumed it was because I was getting bonky and was out of shape. I struggled to get around BAck Bay and head back up to Citrus Ranch Park.

    The last mile was the hardest. I had started whining going past UCI. Kathy is a "no whining" type of gal but she offered to ride ahead and bring back my car. "no", I said stubbornly "I can make it back even if it kills me...". We did cut the route alittle short because I had bonked, was dehydrated and almost delusional. That last mile was painful. Somewhere along the route I should have stop to get something to eat. My bad.
    Anyway, total time (stopping and riding) was 5 hours 15 minutes. Distance 59 miles. It took me awhile to get my bike put away and get in the car. When I turned it on the temperature gauge showed 93 degrees! Yipes! No wonder i felt sick. I don't do well in temps over 80 as it is. I love the route and look forward to doing it again... when it's cooler!

    I've done pretty much that exact ride a couple of times, let me know next you go or maybe we can make it a small BF ride?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJClay View Post
    I've done pretty much that exact ride a couple of times, let me know next you go or maybe we can make it a small BF ride?
    You did catch my time right... I am sort of slow and pokey... and I may start whining again!
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    It was hot Sunday- I experienced something new. A horrible heat was heating up the bottoms of my feet. Maybe because I'm normally done fore 10 or 11 AM so maybe the extended hours over the black top. Yesterdays ride was definately humbling.

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    Pam - my daughter has a tournament on 9/30 at the exact same field, so I'll probably do it again. I actually don't mind the roads between Whittier & Brea down to SART. Her game starts at 9 am so I'll have to get up at the crack of dawn - it'll be interesting to see if leaving THAT early makes a significant difference in stamina and speed. I have to think it will at the very least be more comfortable. And dark. I really enjoy riding at dawn when it's just me, the rabbits and the coyotes.

    Speaking of which, I saw two mule deer in Santiago canyon right on the road edge eating whatever mule deer eat. They weren't fazed by the cars & Harleys at all.

    I'm definitely kicking back and relaxing tonight... get back on the bike tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    Pam - my daughter has a tournament on 9/30 at the exact same field, so I'll probably do it again. I actually don't mind the roads between Whittier & Brea down to SART. Her game starts at 9 am so I'll have to get up at the crack of dawn - it'll be interesting to see if leaving THAT early makes a significant difference in stamina and speed. I have to think it will at the very least be more comfortable. And dark. I really enjoy riding at dawn when it's just me, the rabbits and the coyotes.

    Speaking of which, I saw two mule deer in Santiago canyon right on the road edge eating whatever mule deer eat. They weren't fazed by the cars & Harleys at all.

    I'm definitely kicking back and relaxing tonight... get back on the bike tomorrow.
    I rode the SART a few months ago at around 4 AM and it was really nice. Just kind of nerve wracking going through that section between the big featherly park bridge and the car wash. There must have been (I'm not exhagerating) 300 rabbits dart in front of my bike. Not sure if they were sleeping and got startled. Other than that, just have good lights. It was a nice ride

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    Yeah, I need to investigate some lighting... my current "headlight" is pathetic.

    Back in August I rode up to GMR from my house, so I was pedaling on SGRT at about 5:30 am and saw the same number of rabbits... those things are blistering fast. right before sunrise I came upon 4 coyotes just sitting on the bike path. I literally rode right between the four of them, which was a little freaky, they were within 5 feet of the path, 2 on either side. Just me, my thoughts, and 300 rabbits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    Yeah, I need to investigate some lighting... my current "headlight" is pathetic.

    Back in August I rode up to GMR from my house, so I was pedaling on SGRT at about 5:30 am and saw the same number of rabbits... those things are blistering fast. right before sunrise I came upon 4 coyotes just sitting on the bike path. I literally rode right between the four of them, which was a little freaky, they were within 5 feet of the path, 2 on either side. Just me, my thoughts, and 300 rabbits.
    What?! No squirrels?
    Move along....nothing to see here....anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    Yeah, I need to investigate some lighting... my current "headlight" is pathetic.
    I ordered this today: http://www.amazon.com/Cree-Xm-l-1200...-2147483553-20 I do a minimum amount of night riding but there's a couple of months that I ride home in the dark. The 2AA light wasn't cutting it.

    I rode in Valley Center yesterday. It was hot and humid and we did a lot of climbing but we took an extra water stop before the last two hills. I must have looked pretty bad; two people commented on my appearance at a regroup spot.

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    I was at the Irvine Spectrum Sunday afternoon doing a doggie adoption event. The heat & humidity was so bad we broke down early for the dog's sake. This is the worst spell of summer I can recall in 51 years of Orange County summers.
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    It's funny you say that Merkel because up through July it felt really cool to me. It's only NOW that we're getting killed with heat.

    That headlight looks pretty cool, I'm just not sure I want to deal with an external battery. I have no idea. I'm sure I'll end up with 6 different kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GP View Post
    I ordered this today: http://www.amazon.com/Cree-Xm-l-1200...-2147483553-20 I do a minimum amount of night riding but there's a couple of months that I ride home in the dark. The 2AA light wasn't cutting it.

    I rode in Valley Center yesterday. It was hot and humid and we did a lot of climbing but we took an extra water stop before the last two hills. I must have looked pretty bad; two people commented on my appearance at a regroup spot.
    I have had that light since november and am very happy with it. Only issue I have had is that the nylon case which holds the battery is starting to rip (i have the battery mounted under my stem)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    Speaking of which, I saw two mule deer in Santiago canyon right on the road edge eating whatever mule deer eat. They weren't fazed by the cars & Harleys at all.

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    There are lots of deer in the Canyon (along with everything else including bobcats and mountain lion). I have stopped and had to chase deer off the road to avoid getting hit by cars. Apparently deer aren't bright... neither are the drivers that come blasting through at high speed not realizing the Canyon is filled with critters!

    Tried to ride last night but got sick again. Will not be riding tonight... in my office now and its looks ghastly humid out right now. Apparently this weather will be with us through the weekend; getting even hotter! Oh...Joy... (not).
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    Supposed to be close to 100 this Friday and Saturday.


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    Yeah, 100! what the heck.

    Oh, I ordered some of those 26650 flashlights, should be here in a week or two and just barely in time for my commute to Capistrano again. if they are in any danger of not getting here, I'll get that light ahultin has from amazon (yay prime).

    100!!! I have no words. of course, 100 at the beach means we're frying inland.

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    i've been doing a lot of 50-60 mile rides in the heat trying to get in shape for an upcoming trip to spain. usually by noon its roasting and you have to remember to drink nearly twice as much water as you would normally do just to stay hydrated. yesterday going up silverado and maple springs my garmin read well over 100! but you can always find solace in the fact that training in the heat absolutely makes you much stronger. there's all sorts of things happening in the body when you're exerting yourself when the mercury tops out that makes riding in cooler weather that much easier. so i say, take advantage of the heat wave and ride for a stronger tomorrow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowlife1975 View Post
    i've been doing a lot of 50-60 mile rides in the heat trying to get in shape for an upcoming trip to spain. usually by noon its roasting and you have to remember to drink nearly twice as much water as you would normally do just to stay hydrated. yesterday going up silverado and maple springs my garmin read well over 100! but you can always find solace in the fact that training in the heat absolutely makes you much stronger. there's all sorts of things happening in the body when you're exerting yourself when the mercury tops out that makes riding in cooler weather that much easier. so i say, take advantage of the heat wave and ride for a stronger tomorrow!
    Not certain that advice should be given out freely. Many people are heat sensitive. I am. When I drink larger quanities of water I become sodium depleted and get very ill.

    I think people need to know their limitations and not place their life at risk. Recently a very strong experienced mountain biker (young man, father of 2 young children), pushed himself in the heat and died of heat stroke. Just not worth the risk.
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