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mikeandike93 10-01-12 10:12 AM

Steepest Climbs in So Cal
 
Can anyone find the steepest hills in SD/ So Cal?

I can imagine the climb up Palomar, Torrey Pines (ITP and OTP), Washington St from the I5, and Laurel from the I5 are all on the list, but I don't know the grades or where they are ranked.

Datsun Nut 10-01-12 10:15 AM

I will have to say as much as I love climbing hill and living in the mountains when I rode, Torrey Pines is one that I will never forget. Rode three years in a row and RODE it every time. Love that!

antojado 10-01-12 10:23 AM

Here you go:

http://sdbikecommuter.com/forums/com...scussionID=468

I'm always amazed at what I can find on the internet.

mkadam68 10-01-12 07:43 PM

How long does this "steepest street" need to be in order to qualify? Isn't Fargo the steepest in LA at like 31% or something? But then, it's only 200yds long or so.

ooga-booga 10-02-12 03:47 PM

fargo st near d-town la is 32-33% and may only be one block but it is interminable. gotta be the steepest climb of significance in so cal (not counting dead-end streets and govt/private roads). top handful of hardest short climbs in metro san diego are:
1.lucinda st-2 blocks of misery (92106)
2.harbor view dr-next door and 3 blocks of slightly less misery (92106)
3. illion st (bay park/mission bay area)-looong block sufferfest
4. texas st-(south side mission valley)not as steep but longer than the rest

north side of mount soledad is also a no fun zone.

ooga-booga 10-02-12 03:59 PM

compiled a list a while back of the toughest metro sd climbs on foursquare if you're interested.
it's titled 'cycling hillclimbs-metro san diego.' or just search for lucinda street (92106 zip) on foursquare
and you can access the list from there. just because a street is steeper, doesn't mean it's harder than another.
example, bandini st is 24%but it's only a (short) block.
texas st isn't nearly as steep but it goes fivever.

Nachoman 10-02-12 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ooga-booga (Post 14799587)
fargo st near d-town la is 32-33% and may only be one block but it is interminable. gotta be the steepest climb of significance in so cal (not counting dead-end streets and govt/private roads). top handful of hardest short climbs in metro san diego are:
1.lucinda st-2 blocks of misery (92106)
2.harbor view dr-next door and 3 blocks of slightly less misery (92106)
3. illion st (bay park/mission bay area)-looong block sufferfest
4. texas st-(south side mission valley)not as steep but longer than the rest

north side of mount soledad is also a no fun zone.

I live just a few blocks from Harbor View and Lucinda. You may as well put Hill Street and Talbot on the list too. They seem equally steep.

ooga-booga 10-02-12 09:12 PM

hill st & talbot are both difficult but neither is tougher than lucinda or harbor view. harbor view (from talbot) is 3 blocks of ouch and it is the 2nd block of lucinda that makes you curse your love for the bike. hill st is definitely in my top 7 or 8 toughest short climbs in metro sd. simple truth is that there is no free lunch up to the top of point loma and the monument except via catalina.

there's an older guy living on lucinda that always shakes his head and has some funny comment as i crawl by at 3.5 mph. unintended inspiration he is.

ooga-booga 10-02-12 09:14 PM

once you tackle 10 or more of these short, killer climbs in a ride, you have a greater appreciation for which ones are harder than the others.

ooga-booga 10-02-12 09:18 PM

there are some killer stretches in the santa monica mtns and the laguna mtns have pine creek rd. still haven't made it up that. it is the inspiration for current diet/weight loss i.e. no beer.

mtrider05 10-02-12 09:19 PM

Are we talking streets or extended multiple miles climbs?

ooga-booga 10-02-12 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mtrider05 (Post 14800678)
Are we talking streets or extended multiple miles climbs?

it would appear both. mt. baldy ski lifts & pine creek are the two most difficult lengthy climbs i've found in southern california

stevepusser 10-03-12 12:19 AM

The paved fire road up to the top of Cuyamaca Peak from the Paso Picacho campground also has some killer steep sections, as well as a killer view from the top. It's maybe a 500'/mile climb overall, from 4900' to 6500', and while closed to cars, is open to bikes.

Dictionary Hill, east of San Diego proper, also has many very steep streets. Seems it was laid out in a grid pattern on a map regardless of the terrain, maybe to fool buyers that bought a lot unseen.

wackypawn 10-03-12 01:09 PM

Via Capri (a.k.a. north side of Mt Soledad) is surely up there.

BTW it should be easy to check gradients and lengths for all these hills on Strava.

wackypawn 10-03-12 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ooga-booga (Post 14800833)
it would appear both. mt. baldy ski lifts & pine creek are the two most difficult lengthy climbs i've found in southern california

Agree on Mt Baldy Village to ski lifts! It's a climb I was proud to be able to just finish without stopping regardless of the time it took me...

Lesper4 10-03-12 01:31 PM

Anyone ridden these? I always stare at them when I drive to San Diego. The one looks like it gets a lot worse but it is gated I guess?
Lawence Weld Ct
Welk View Drive
Golden Hill Road
https://maps.google.com/?ll=33.23350...27766&t=h&z=16

GP 10-03-12 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lesper4 (Post 14802985)
Anyone ridden these? I always stare at them when I drive to San Diego. The one looks like it gets a lot worse but it is gated I guess?
Lawence Weld Ct
Welk View Drive
Golden Hill Road
https://maps.google.com/?ll=33.23350...27766&t=h&z=16

Last time I looked there was a manned gate at the bottom.

I think Los Gatos in Temecula has a 27% portion.

ooga-booga 10-03-12 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by stevepusser (Post 14801069)
The paved fire road up to the top of Cuyamaca Peak from the Paso Picacho campground also has some killer steep sections, as well as a killer view from the top. It's maybe a 500'/mile climb overall, from 4900' to 6500', and while closed to cars, is open to bikes.

Dictionary Hill, east of San Diego proper, also has many very steep streets. Seems it was laid out in a grid pattern on a map regardless of the terrain, maybe to fool buyers that bought a lot unseen.

yes, the ascent to the top of cuyamaca pk is brutal-esp the last stretch from the northern 'shoulder.' worserer still is the descent; a narrow road with not great visibility at times. your brakes and forearms both better be in top condition since you'll be braking continuously. it is not an enjoyable experience. i don't see most people doing it more than once.

oh yah-spring valley does have some monster climbs. forgot about that area. sorry spring valley. haven't ridden out there in years. will hafta attempt once it cools down a bit out there-like december.

antojado 10-03-12 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ooga-booga (Post 14799633)
compiled a list a while back of the toughest metro sd climbs on foursquare if you're interested.
it's titled 'cycling hillclimbs-metro san diego.' or just search for lucinda street (92106 zip) on foursquare
and you can access the list from there. just because a street is steeper, doesn't mean it's harder than another.
example, bandini st is 24%but it's only a (short) block.
texas st isn't nearly as steep but it goes fivever.

The link I posted earlier lists the grade and the length. Bandini is only 244' long while Texas is over a mile.

Here's the link again: http://sdbikecommuter.com/forums/com...scussionID=468

antojado 10-03-12 04:47 PM

Here's a site I found recently that you can use to map routes: http://www.mapmywalk.com/

I'm sure there are others, this is just the one that I found. A cool feature is that it will automatically generate an elevation profile with grades and length of climbs. I'm still trying to figure out how to use it, but it seems like a cool idea. There might be other sites worth checking out that also do this.

mtrider05 10-03-12 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by antojado (Post 14803764)
Here's a site I found recently that you can use to map routes: http://www.mapmywalk.com/

I'm sure there are others, this is just the one that I found. A cool feature is that it will automatically generate an elevation profile with grades and length of climbs. I'm still trying to figure out how to use it, but it seems like a cool idea. There might be other sites worth checking out that also do this.

Mapmyride is the bicycle version, along with ridewithgps.com, bikeroutetoaster.com, geoladders.com.

CommuteCommando 10-05-12 12:10 PM

OK. it's only 16% for 500' horizontal, but is close to me. Going down is as bad as going up because it ends in a TEE.

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1786328

GP 10-05-12 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CommuteCommando (Post 14810295)
OK. it's only 16% for 500' horizontal, but is close to me. Going down is as bad as going up because it ends in a TEE.
U
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1786328

ive been riding up Mission Gate lately. It starts at Mission Ave between Old Grove and RDO. Short but steep.

leaftye 10-16-12 09:44 PM

Here's a killer climb for you.
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1817972

6000+ feet of climbing

ooga-booga 10-16-12 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leaftye (Post 14849397)
Here's a killer climb for you.
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1817972

6000+ feet of climbing

have driven that road many times, as well as the 74-southern half to/from palm desert. both are similar and very dangerous. personally would not attempt either unless it was part of a cyclosportif, closed to autos (say for fire danger) or had a group of 10+ riders along with. you can bet i'd do everything to avoid being the slowest in that case.

have done the stretch from hemet to idyllwild via the 74/243. scenic and has a lot less traffic than the 243 to the desert floor. will probably attempt again within the next year.

still hoping the amgen tour of california runs a stage from san juan capistrano to idyllwild via the 74 & 243 one of these days. the following day, they could descend the stretch you highlight, blow through the blast furnace/wind tunnel of banning and ascend damnation alley on the 38 on the way to onyx summit and finish in big bear. those would be some great stages to watch and one helluva queen stage if they compacted it into one.


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