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    ******bag... were you riding north on PCH last Sunday? Approaching Swamis around 10:30am or so?

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    I might be on Palomar's South grade to watch them decend that road. Still figuring out logistic if I'm going to ride from Harrah's or park on the hill and do some SG repeats til they arrive.

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    If its going up Cole Grade park at the library and ride to Cole Gr.
    Or Valley Center High School.

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    OK I looked at the map and want to make sure what they are doing... are they climbing or descending the Lake Henshaw side of Palomar? It looked to me they are climbing. I know there is a parking area about a mile or 2 up from the Lake I thought would be a good place to watch...provided they are climbing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamestique View Post
    OK I looked at the map and want to make sure what they are doing... are they climbing or descending the Lake Henshaw side of Palomar? It looked to me they are climbing. I know there is a parking area about a mile or 2 up from the Lake I thought would be a good place to watch...provided they are climbing.
    Yes, they'll be climbing East Grade Rd. http://www.amgentourofcalifornia.com...apStage_1d.pdf

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    Was out where the race is going to start last night. They have actually done a pretty good job of cleaning up the area, and somehow they have removed the homeless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedNose44 View Post
    somehow they have removed the homeless.
    They posted job applications on all the light posts

    Can anybody please tell me why it has to be on Mothers day?????? Ive got 3 mom's within 15 miles of me.. why? why? why? If I go Ill have one ex-wife and an in-law and dis-owned by the other. Up side, I can ride more... but then I couldnt afford to ride. A cruel joke this is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsigone View Post
    I might be on Palomar's South grade to watch them decend that road. Still figuring out logistic if I'm going to ride from Harrah's or park on the hill and do some SG repeats til they arrive.
    anyone know around what time the leaders are expected to pass over the palomar kom? i think i am going to watch the south grade descent too, unless the freak show and all the crazies will be at the kom

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    FYI. I rode part of the route and, after 12 at lower elevations, it was MURDEROUSLY hot. On Cole Grade, Etape riders were hiding under every tree, my Garmin was showing 104 (probably inflated by direct sunlight, but still), the thermometer in my wife's car was showing 93 in Valley Center and 91 in Escondido.

    Also, tomorrow it will be even hotter.

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    And just imagine Palm Springs, it will be even hotter! I did my own etap ride in the slightly cooler San Gabriels.
    http://app.strava.com/activities/53681933

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike F View Post
    They posted job applications on all the light posts

    Can anybody please tell me why it has to be on Mothers day?????? Ive got 3 mom's within 15 miles of me.. why? why? why? If I go Ill have one ex-wife and an in-law and dis-owned by the other. Up side, I can ride more... but then I couldnt afford to ride. A cruel joke this is.
    I totally agree. As much as I want to, I just can't escape Mothers Day obligations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamster View Post
    FYI. I rode part of the route and, after 12 at lower elevations, it was MURDEROUSLY hot. On Cole Grade, Etape riders were hiding under every tree, my Garmin was showing 104 (probably inflated by direct sunlight, but still), the thermometer in my wife's car was showing 93 in Valley Center and 91 in Escondido.

    Also, tomorrow it will be even hotter.
    l'Etape was harrrd, much harder than Breathless last weekend. Even though I ate some pretzels and drinking enough to pee clear, I was still pretty loopy on Cole Grade. It was moider! And I was ruined after that, just moving the pedals and praying it would end soon.
    Pulse is racing right now, despite laying in bed. Hard day.
    Be interesting to see how those dainty European flowers fare tomorrow.
    I predict the winning break will happen on Cole Grade--one tough mutha, and it's mostly downhill from there.
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    Good info here if you have not seen it. Palomar closed to cars at 11:30

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    Quote Originally Posted by calamarichris View Post
    l'Etape was harrrd, much harder than Breathless last weekend. Even though I ate some pretzels and drinking enough to pee clear, I was still pretty loopy on Cole Grade. It was moider! And I was ruined after that, just moving the pedals and praying it would end soon.
    Pulse is racing right now, despite laying in bed. Hard day.
    Be interesting to see how those dainty European flowers fare tomorrow.
    I predict the winning break will happen on Cole Grade--one tough mutha, and it's mostly downhill from there.
    St Paddy Palomar Punishment had Cole Grade at about the same place in the route too. But that was in good weather. That time I made it up the hill without stopping in OK time. Today was pretty extreme. I made good use of my new 28/32 low gear and that was the only thing that kept the ride from stopping being fun. By then I had close to 70 miles on the trip meter (I cheated and skipped Palomar), was out of water, my wife called and offered to pick me up and she showed up right around the time I got over the top.

    A few miles before 76/south grade fork, there was an eagle with a big fat snake in its claws, just sitting on the ground near the road. I got to about 10 feet and snapped a couple of phone pics. (Pics turned out to have poor quality, unfortunately.)
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    Haha--I've seen the same thing, but it was probably a redtail hawk you saw. When I saw one, it had just scooped up a 6+ foot snake. It paused atop a telephone pole and I nearly crashed my motorcycle when I pulled over and grabbed for my camera. The hawk had stopped there to kill the snake, (which was still alive and thrashing around), but when it glanced down and saw me (presumably trying to steal its tasty meal), it continued on flapping its huge wings (ugh - ugh - ugh) with this long, heavy, UNaerodynamic snake in its grasp. Quite a sight!

    Heh - the Palomarpics guy got a shot of me coming down Palomar. I passed nearly two dozen riders on the way down and 4 cars. I took no small bit of satisfaction watching the pros suffer on the same course on NBC today, though I was wrong about Cole Grade producing the deciding break.




    One of the riders passed me back on Cole Grade, but it was HOT man and we were all suffering! I think I passed another dozen riders pausing in the shade, but only saw the l'Etape number on one of them.
    It was quite a ride and I'm still recovering.
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    I bailed on Palomar and rode from my house to Ramona and then to Escondido. They put on one heck of a show today. I did not ride home and called my wife for a ride from Escondido. I can normally tolerate heat but this was brutal on me today. I was not up to it.

    I am glad I did not go with my friends who climbed from Dudley s and descended and climbed south to the observatory watched the race and back to Dudley's.

    I remember some sort of bet with Chris where I called Sagan. I dont remember the details I think its a push we were both wrong and we can split the tab
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    Whoah-hohoHO! Nice try wise guy!
    No push. Sagan came in a distant, pathetic third. That means you're buying my choice of pitcher.
    Don't Welch on this, as there's only two things we Irish are known for...
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    You are probably right. It did not have a red tail but it looks more like a red tailed hawk than a golden eagle. http://i40.tinypic.com/6htaqd.jpg

    It was pretty deserted on the course as far as spectators. I got a nice cool spot on Mesa Grande, some shade and only 91 F, I was all alone there. On the way there though, saw surprising numbers of crazies on road bikes braving noonday sun and triple digit temperatures.

    Monday high in Palm Springs, 108 F ...

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    Their tails are not exactly brilliant red, but they are by far the most common raptors in our region. We've got a bunch of avocado groves, and I suspect the avocado tree leavings produce a lot of plump, juicy rodents for these hawks to prey upon.
    They really are a marvel to watch. They dogfight each other, and the crows around here will gather to gang up on them. Really something to watch one redtail take on 6 or more crows. The crows usually win (by cooperation IMO.) Too bad the hawks are solitary predators that fight against each other to defend their territory, because sometimes it looks like they could use a little help up there against those crow gang-bangers.


    Meh--the pros can handle 108 just fine:
    a) They don't have to stop for redlights and stopsigns like we do.
    b) They don't have diesel-smoke belching redneck trucks punching the throttle directly ahead of us like we do.
    c) They have teamcars which bring them bottles to douse themselves, which we don't.
    d) They don't have to worry about cleaning their own darn bikes after they've been rained on all day by dousing bottles, which we do.
    e) They have the best nutrition, doctors, masseurs, trainers, which we don't.

    Suck it pros. Suffer as well as we did.
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    The way they push, seems like they'd be overheating all the time just from their own efforts. So far 9 rides uploaded to Strava. New KOM on Cole Grade: 11:20. One of the guys averaged 194 bpm on the segment. I have a lot of improving to do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamster View Post
    I have a lot of improving to do!
    Unless your improvement plan involves ratcheting back the years 20 or so.... well, yeah. Sagan, that slow bast@4d, is 23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    Unless your improvement plan involves ratcheting back the years 20 or so.... well, yeah. Sagan, that slow bast@4d, is 23.
    Current standing KOM on South Grade Mt Palomar was set by Chris Horner at the age of 40 years 8 months. I still have some time left.

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    Wow. I typically start to feel pretty sick at 184bpm, and I'll bet it took me nearly twice that long to climb Cole Grade. Though I just turned 44, and being 20 years older than these kids might have something to do with it.
    I learned two things in retrospect:
    1) Bring your own Endurolytes. (eating as many pretzels as you can and licking the salt off a few more still ain't enough on a climb like Cole Grade on a hot day like Saturday.)
    2) Don't be afraid to douse yourself with water at the aid stations. (Probably just keep it confined to your head & upper body, so your chamois doesn't get all squishy [any triathlete who's gotten boils down there will agree.])
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamster View Post
    Current standing KOM on South Grade Mt Palomar was set by Chris Horner at the age of 40 years 8 months. I still have some time left.
    Current standing KOM doesn't necessarily mean current record. Greg Lemond rode up Palomar long before the word Strava entered the American-English Lexicon. I'd be curious to compare his time and Horner's.
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