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    Even the very top would have been a good finish line where the steps are to the building. I watched Mondays stage again and the beginning of Tuesdays stage with Monday highlights, that looked miserable for them, and TJ nude in the tent was just funny. That is over for them at least.

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    is there a tougher 3.5 mile stretch of road in southern california than the palm springs tram road? i haven't found it.
    it's hell when the temps are cooperating so it musta been hc hell to be climbing it in 100+ degree weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooga-booga View Post
    is there a tougher 3.5 mile stretch of road in southern california than the palm springs tram road? i haven't found it.
    it's hell when the temps are cooperating so it musta been hc hell to be climbing it in 100+ degree weather.
    When temps are cooperating, what's the difference between hell and a good workout? During a good workout, you don't run out of gears.

    This guy came in 6th on stage 2: http://app.strava.com/activities/54069310# He was basically taking it easy all the way to Palm Springs (look at HR chart) Then it's a 20-minute hard interval workout with HR steady at 172..175 (he's 25 years old) and average cadence around 75 rpm, and he's done.

    I tried to figure out his gearing, looks like he did most of the climbing in 39/26, but there's a couple of stretches where it looks like he has at least 39/30 and maybe lower.

    You put an average guy with half the aerobic capacity of the pros on that hill and ask him to climb it in 34/25, yes, it will be hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamster View Post
    When temps are cooperating, what's the difference between hell and a good workout? During a good workout, you don't run out of gears.

    This guy came in 6th on stage 2: http://app.strava.com/activities/54069310# He was basically taking it easy all the way to Palm Springs (look at HR chart) Then it's a 20-minute hard interval workout with HR steady at 172..175 (he's 25 years old) and average cadence around 75 rpm, and he's done.

    I tried to figure out his gearing, looks like he did most of the climbing in 39/26, but there's a couple of stretches where it looks like he has at least 39/30 and maybe lower.

    You put an average guy with half the aerobic capacity of the pros on that hill and ask him to climb it in 34/25, yes, it will be hell.
    Was there...the riders were SUFFERING badly. HELL ride for sure...the looks on their faces and how some BARELY got over the finish line was brutal and scary
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    i've done that climb 10 or so times over the years when visiting family in palm desert and it's never been a pleasant affair whether i've been a fatty or relatively slender.
    always tell myself "stay seated, dummy" and that works until 3/4 up the long ramp immediately post-dip. the last 1.5 km or so invariably involves a mixture of slobbering,
    cursing, standing and sitting. smallest gear i've ever had was a 27 and i always seriously consider going to a triple ring permanently during my darkest moments on the climb.
    i'd rather climb baldy or palomar for giggles before the tram road. it's my go-to climb mentally when i'm suffering because it relegates other climbs (ain't as bad as ps tram road-hold on!).

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    Tour of California 2013

    Definitely saw slobbering from some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DXchulo View Post
    I'm planning on camping near Santa Barbara and watching Stages 4 and 5. I was thinking of riding part of the Stage 4 route backwards and would appreciate any info on the portion that isn't part of the race route. Any better suggestions than this?

    https://goo.gl/maps/JakSs
    On the off chance that anyone ever wants the answer to this question, the route was fine. 192 didn't always have a shoulder, but it was a quiet area and traffic was light (on race day, at least). 154 could have been better (the shoulder disappears a few times and the traffic is heavy), but I've done a lot worse and it was worth the trouble.

    Also, here's my report from Stage 4: http://centuryperweek.blogspot.com/2...n-tour-of.html
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    Did anyone see the crash in the women's time trail, Ouch! And she was the American TT champion. And apparently Dave Zebreski crashed too somewhere on the course during warm up?

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