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    Respectable shop where I can get a major tune up in Burbank area?

    Velo charges $150, there's gotta be something else for less right?

    It's a Bianchi hybrid, probably 5 or so years old (2 years since I got it), never been serviced.

    Also my daily driver and dirty as hell.

    Safety Check $45

    Adjust and check headset, adjust and check front and rear brakes, adjust and check front and rear derailleur, check bottom bracket, wipe down.

    Tune-Up $80

    Includes Safety Check PLUS: Adjust bottom bracket, remove chain from the bike, remove and clean freewheel/cassette, clean/check cables for wear, adjust front and rear hubs, true front and rear wheels, inspect frame for cracks and damage plus full cleaning.

    Complete Overhaul $150

    Includes Tune Up PLUS: Bike is stripped down to the frame, inspect, overhaul and clean front and rear hubs, bottom bracket, headset, front and rear derailleurs

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    call up bicycle john's on hollywood way

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    IMO bike tuneups make about as much sense as car tuneups. I'd recommend saving the money to put towards replacement of things like cables, bottom brackets and wheel truing. I just pay for front and rear derailleur adjustments as they get out of adjustment (usually a lot more frequently on the rear than front.) If the brakes need adjustment at the brake lever the $45 safety check wouldn't be a bad deal.

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    Heh--notice the "wipe down" isn't an item you expect to pay for in your itemized quote. You'll get a MUCH better price elsewhere if you clean up your bike before taking it in.
    It's pretty spirit-crushing to clean some penny-pincher's filthy, neglected bike and have them expect le gourmet-lobsteur at a le BigMac price.

    Be careful though... cleaning your bike may make you realize how simple it is to tune up your own bike and do a much better job than anyone else would for the paltry price you're expecting to pay. After all, it isn't rocket-science, right?
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    Well, if you are gonna carry a snapped frame all the way home. It might as well be light weight carbon fiber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calamarichris View Post
    Heh--notice the "wipe down" isn't an item you expect to pay for in your itemized quote. You'll get a MUCH better price elsewhere if you clean up your bike before taking it in.
    It's pretty spirit-crushing to clean some penny-pincher's filthy, neglected bike and have them expect le gourmet-lobsteur at a le BigMac price.

    Be careful though... cleaning your bike may make you realize how simple it is to tune up your own bike and do a much better job than anyone else would for the paltry price you're expecting to pay. After all, it isn't rocket-science, right?
    I do the small stuff but I don't have the skills OR tools to do a major job like what I want. I get that for the price of a tune up I can just buy tools, which is what I'll probably do next time. I'm learning...slowly.

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    What part of what you want is major?

    I don't think $150 is awful for taking your bike clear down to the frame - that's pretty time consuming. It's probably not necessary either. If you just want your derailleurs tweaked that would be cheaper but in any case you should probably clean your own bike regularly just to prolong its life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    What part of what you want is major?
    What I can do:
    wipe down, change tires/wheels, clean chain (while it's on the bike)


    What I can't do:
    Adjust and check headset, adjust and check front and rear brakes, adjust and check front and rear derailleur, check bottom bracket, Adjust bottom bracket, remove chain from the bike, remove and clean freewheel/cassette, clean/check cables for wear, adjust front and rear hubs, true front and rear wheels, inspect frame for cracks and damage plus full cleaning, Bike is stripped down to the frame, inspect, overhaul and clean front and rear hubs, bottom bracket, headset, front and rear derailleurs



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ns1 View Post
    I do the small stuff but I don't have the skills OR tools to do a major job like what I want. I get that for the price of a tune up I can just buy tools, which is what I'll probably do next time. I'm learning...slowly.
    If it's a major job, maybe price shouldn't be the overriding priority.

    I mean no offense at all, but I'm going to surmise that you are closer to 50 than to 25 years old. (I can make fun for the same reason Chris Rock can tell hilarious jokes about African Americans and Billy Crystal can tell lame jokes about Jewish Americans.)
    Like all others, our venerated generation has it's faults and its virtues. Like me, you probably remember the uproar and the impending catastrophe when gasoline went over $2.00 per gallon--it was like the inverse of Neil Armstrong walking on the Moon.
    Our generation's fault is that many of us were raised by parents who lived through The Great Depression, and it's turned us into a bunch of cheapskates who expect a prime rib dinner, a neckrub and a motion picture for less than a nickel.
    But our virtue is that we're a DIY, can-do generation! We put a man on the Moon and we can fix our own damn bikes.
    Unless you are insanely busy, I would invest in a Park Tools Bluebook & some rags, and keep riding your bike. Start amassing tools and knowledge.
    Riding on a spotless, precision-tuned machine brings one a certain satisfaction; now amplify that feeling of satisfaction by 1000, and you're still nowhere near the first time you take a ride on the first pair of wheels you've laced and trued yourself.

    If I'm completely wrong and you're a 29-year-old with two kids, busting your hump to make your mortgage payment, keep looking for some franchise-boutique that employs hapless teenagers who are compelled to clean and do a passable job of adjusting your bike for single-digit-per-hour. But if you expect a rich, satisfying experience, I'd start down The Path. I did, and I don't regret it at all.

    In addition to the Park Blue Book, we also have University of Youtube, which will teach you how to construct & activate a small fission reactor if you use the right search terms.
    Quote Originally Posted by EvilWeasel View Post
    Well, if you are gonna carry a snapped frame all the way home. It might as well be light weight carbon fiber.

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    For some of what you want done I'd say... why?

    For the rest, you can check it yourself and if there's a problem take it in - no need to pay somebody $150 to tell you your bike is fine.

    If you're closer to 29 than 50 don't let that old man tell you what to do!

    If you're in fact closer to 50, he speaks wisdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calamarichris View Post
    If it's a major job, maybe price shouldn't be the overriding priority.


    I mean no offense at all, but I'm going to surmise that you are closer to 50 than to 25 years old.
    ...
    If I'm completely wrong and you're a 29-year-old with two kids, busting your hump to make your mortgage payment, keep looking for some franchise-boutique that employs hapless teenagers who are compelled to clean and do a passable job of adjusting your bike for single-digit-per-hour. But if you expect a rich, satisfying experience, I'd start down The Path. I did, and I don't regret it at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    For some of what you want done I'd say... why?


    For the rest, you can check it yourself and if there's a problem take it in - no need to pay somebody $150 to tell you your bike is fine.


    If you're closer to 29 than 50 don't let that old man tell you what to do!


    If you're in fact closer to 50, he speaks wisdom.

    I actually am 29; no kids, but 3 dogs. As to WHY, this is my daily driver and I feel bad that I haven't done any real maintenance to it in 2 years (except what I needed to do to keep it running). I'm trying to be more "serious" this year so I want the bike to be in top shape.

    I'm REALLY curious now: why do you guys think I'm 50!?!?
    Last edited by Ns1; 04-17-13 at 12:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ns1 View Post
    Velo charges $150, there's gotta be something else for less right?

    It's a Bianchi hybrid, probably 5 or so years old (2 years since I got it), never been serviced.
    2 years of regular riding? Then this is what is required:

    Both hubs have to be overhauled down to the bearings, including removing the freehub and degreasing and relubing. There is a good chance that the hub cones and balls are kaput, so have to be replaced.

    The chain is certainly finished, as are the chainrings and the cassette. If you had replaced the chain on a reasonable schedule, you might have extended the life of these, but a 2-year old chain has finished them off as well.

    The stem and seatpost have to be removed out of the frame and tested for seizing/corrosion.

    The headset has to be removed, degreased, relubed and reinstalled. The bottom bracket is probably a cartridge, so cannot be serviced. Run it till it dies, which for a commuter bikes is about 2-5 years.

    The wheel rims may have eroded through due to braking. I go through a set of rims every year. If the rims are kaput, then it may be cheaper to get a new set of wheels.

    Best case scenario: this will cost more than $150 - good luck.

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    ^^

    thanks, that is most certainly what I needed to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ns1 View Post
    I'm REALLY curious now: why do you guys think I'm 50!?!?
    Apologies. I presumed incorrectly. To answer your question:

    ~Hybrid. Most guys your age have something to prove, and are therefore more likely to be riding carbon fiber with aerobars and a teardrop-helmet.
    ~Perfectionist. Old guys like to keep their bikes & motorbikes spotless and well-tuned. (Although in retrospect, you expect someone else to do this, so I shouldn't have assumed you were one of us.)
    ~Cheapskate. I spend a little freetime at Pacific Coast Cycles in Oceanside, and just about every single time I'm there, at least one decrepit, pot-bellied cheapskate comes in with a filthy, dilapidated, rustbucket expecting poor Chuck to clean it and turn it into a sleek, shining, titanium hoverbike for a buck and two bits. Never young guys, it's always some bitter old fart who grew up shining shoes for a penny apiece during the Great Depression.

    Are you being honest about your age here? 'Cause I've learned people aren't always honest about that on the internet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilWeasel View Post
    Well, if you are gonna carry a snapped frame all the way home. It might as well be light weight carbon fiber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ns1 View Post
    I'm REALLY curious now: why do you guys think I'm 50!?!?
    50 is the new 30.

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    PM me I will show you how to do this stuff, I'm not in Burbank but south bay area setup a day then you'll know how to tackle this stuff yourself.
    It may not be fancy but it gets me were I need to go.
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