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Old 07-28-13, 09:02 PM   #1
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Allergic to Bees? Stay off GMR

Nice friendly ride turned into a couple of day, maybe 3 depending in this doesn't go down by tomorrow.

About 5 miles up GMR there was a huge tornado of bees just to the right of the road in a turnout. I didn;t see it on the way up but the others did. Only a couple of bees in the air when I went by so I escaped on the way up. At the shack everybody was talking about the bees. Great, now I have to go down and hope I miss them......... NOT!

On the way down' I'm doing about 25 looking ahead hoping I don't hit them. I don't see anything but as soon as I enter the area, they are all over the road. I get hit by a couple on the chest but no biggie, as hot as it is, I wear an under layer to help protect from bugs n stuff.

I'm pretty happy that I didn't feel anything but the I feel burn on my forehead, Dammit!

I stop at the next safe spot and wait for Gina. The others got hit but none got the all enjoyable sting. I still have part of the stinger in my forehead cause I can't see so Gina pulls it out. As soon as we get down, I ice it with a cold pack Alyce has in the truck hoping it helps the spread.

I get home and ice it, pt on cortisone cream, take Benedryl but still my forehead swells. By night time the inner section of my eyelids are swollen and I'm actually pretty happy knowing it could have been worse. But wake up this morning and Ugh, my face is all messed up. Form my cheeks to my forehead swollen.

Oh well, doesn't hurt, just annoying and I won't be going out to dinner so I don't ruin anybody's meal ha ha!

Well still taking the meds and rubbing cream on my face but I;m still ugly.

So just a heads up, if you're allergic to bees, sty off GMR for a while. Oh and thanks to Jed19 for the concerned phone call. You though the pic you saw was bad, take a look at this one. Anyway, feels like it's stating to go down now.

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This morning when I woke up. To make things even more fun, Gina car had a flat so I had to pump up the tire with my bike pump so we could get it down to the repair shop. Never anything more fun that having to take care of auto biz when your face is all jacked up!


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Sorry about the tough weekend Beanz. I hope you heal quickly, but if the swelling does not improve, I suggest you see a doctor, as you've tried all the recommended remedies (icing, cortisone cream and Benadryl).

Hope your face gets back to being your handsome self soon
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+1 to Jed's advice. I'm not sure about the physiology of Klingons but it's possible you're allergic to bees and you should possibly carry an epipen with you on rides. Ask your doctor, I don't know jack about jack.
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From now on, its just Mr. Beaz
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Hope your face gets back to being your handsome self soon
Ha ha ha thanks Jed! I'm actually feeling really great right now cause the swelling is going down. I can see my eyes again, it does get scary.
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+1 to Jed's advice. I'm not sure about the physiology of Klingons but it's possible you're allergic to bees and you should possibly carry an epipen with you on rides. Ask your doctor, I don't know jack about jack.
I looked into those. They seem to be more for people who lose that ability to breath. I swell as far as skin tissue but my breathing and organs aren't affected thank goodness. Plus the epipen is for emergencies and from what I understand, the symptoms return after 15 minutes or so. It's more as a temp relief so that one has time to get a ambulance or to an ER. I don't think it would do much for swollen eyelids.
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Alright, stay safe out there Mr. Beaz. We don't want you frightening the future of SoCal cycling!
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Alright, stay safe out there Mr. Beaz. We don't want you frightening the future of SoCal cycling!
I had thought of showing up for the family ride but as my swelled last night, I figured all I'd do with this face is scare kids from a life of cycling.
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I looked into those. They seem to be more for people who lose that ability to breath. I swell as far as skin tissue but my breathing and organs aren't affected thank goodness. Plus the epipen is for emergencies and from what I understand, the symptoms return after 15 minutes or so. It's more as a temp relief so that one has time to get a ambulance or to an ER. I don't think it would do much for swollen eyelids.
i think (not sure) that the effect of stings can get worse with each successive sting. i seem to get stung about 1x/year, and lately it seems like much of my body can swell up from a sting. the last time i was stung was in april or may; it was a sting on my leg, but i had swelling in sort of random places from head to foot. to me, it smells like a matter of time before my diaphragm or windpipe or lungs or whatever it is might be affected. i hope i had the sense to look into an epi pen before that.
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i think (not sure) that the effect of stings can get worse with each successive sting. i seem to get stung about 1x/year, and lately it seems like much of my body can swell up from a sting. the last time i was stung was in april or may; it was a sting on my leg, but i had swelling in sort of random places from head to foot. to me, it smells like a matter of time before my diaphragm or windpipe or lungs or whatever it is might be affected. i hope i had the sense to look into an epi pen before that.
That is very scary! I'd look into one right away. I'm lucky as I swell on the surface and doesn't affect my breathing at all. But I have read that each sting brings on a more severe reaction. Last sting in the ear about 3 weeks ago was bad enough but a bit more on the mild side compared to this one. Mainly because I removed the bee and stinger quickly. This time I was descending GMR and couldn't stop on a dime to remove the stinger. MOF, it stayed in a good period of time as I had to wait for Gina to catch up. She found the stinger that I thought I had removed. So it was in there for some time.

I think if you can remove the stinger and venom sack quickly, the effects are not quite as bad as you get less poison in your system. Years a go I got stung on the neck during a ride. I thought I removed the stinger on the run, NOT! When I got home I found the stinger still lodged in my neck and it was all dried up. I'm sure I took the full does on that one and I really swelled that time.

I also read that when you remove the stinger, be sure not to squeeze the venom sack or you force it into your body. Kind of hard to do when it's in a place you can't see. I guess it's beneficial to remove the stinger quickly to avoid a full dose. I didn't know that, I thought once you were stung, you were stung. Makes sense to remove it before it drains in you.

If I had your symptoms, I'd get a pen ASAP!
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Glad you didn't get seriously injured.
If you follow the bikinginla blog, he didn't have as good an outcome riding into a swarm: http://bikinginla.wordpress.com/2008...-on-the-swarm/
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I'm sorry. I'm just not seeing what it is you're talking about. What's different?





OK, seriously - glad you're on the mend and thanks for the warning. I'd suggest a phone call to someone to take care of the bee problem, but I doubt they'd care because it's out in nature and all.
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OK, seriously - glad you're on the mend and thanks for the warning. I'd suggest a phone call to someone to take care of the bee problem, but I doubt they'd care because it's out in nature and all.
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If you follow the bikinginla blog, he didn't have as good an outcome riding into a swarm: http://bikinginla.wordpress.com/2008...-on-the-swarm/
What the hay? Not one bee sting but he conked out? Sounds like one of those glad to be alive moments!
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+1 on the bee alert. I nailed a dozen on the way down - around 9:30, two right in the face (highly recommend keeping one's mouth closed - haha)
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I had thought of showing up for the family ride but as my swelled last night, I figured all I'd do with this face is scare kids from a life of cycling.
Was hoping to see Beanz and his posse on the SART today. First time I've ever ridden it and no blessings by the King of the SART? Just wasn't a complete ride! Next time!
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Was hoping to see Beanz and his posse on the SART today. First time I've ever ridden it and no blessings by the King of the SART? Just wasn't a complete ride! Next time!

......I was asking Gina about reporting the bees but we both had the same idea, they are where they are supposed to be. Not like the bees on SART in the park terrorizing people.
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I got stung on my finger on a descent on Angeles Crest the prev. weekend so it can happen anywhere, not just GMR. Be carefull out there!

I got the stinger out quick, so no real damage and very little swelling but yes, it did hurt when it first happened (descent off Red Box) and was okay by Newcombs.

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Get well soon Beanz, I too get bad reactions from bee stings!
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Get well soon Beanz, I too get bad reactions from bee stings!
Thanks! Gina and I drove up there today just for a cruise. The bees were gone!

Not sure if they were exterminated, relocated or got me so they hit the road?

Either way, they weren't anywhere to be found on the road to the shack. Maybe it was the time of day, after hours. (5 pm)

I'm betting if I go again, they'll be there waiting for me!

Amazingly, one day later my face is almost back to normal!
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YIKES! Hope you're better. I took a bee in a helmet vent a couple of months ago and got stung in the forehead-fortunately not allergic. Since then I have been hit in the face twice, but they bounced off before zapping me. I have seen helmets where the vents are covered with netting. Next replacement. I'm getting one.
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YIKES! Hope you're better. I took a bee in a helmet vent a couple of months ago and got stung in the forehead-fortunately not allergic. Since then I have been hit in the face twice, but they bounced off before zapping me. I have seen helmets where the vents are covered with netting. Next replacement. I'm getting one.
I know it's not funny but I always laugh when I see someone doing the bee sting to the head dance - riding with no hands trying to get the f*&%(#^g helmet off.
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Beanz, why are your eyes so red? Do you have a medical card?
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I got a prescription!
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