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CommuteCommando 08-01-13 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by social suicide (Post 15910692)
Where I come from we worry about the rabbits!
[video=youtube;XcxKIJTb3Hg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XcxKIJTb3Hg[/video]

:lol:

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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 (Post 15912346)
you allowed to carry a bb/dart/pellet type pistol for protection?

Or you could pack a Holy Hand Grenade. (Hope you have time to Pulleth the pin)

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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo (Post 15908408)
Oh?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_904990.html

This was not an isolated incident. It happens often enough that the local PD puts up warning signs in areas frequented by coyotes.


"The father took his son to The Children’s Hospital urgent care center immediately where his son received a rabies vaccination and is recovering well from the incident,"

Even if they didn't catch the animal (and it sounds like they didn't), this is prudent since attacks like this by healthy animals are very rare.

Shimagnolo 08-01-13 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Wulf (Post 15912102)
Down in Laguna Woods (leisure World) the coyotes have been feasting on chihuahuas...

Damn! I didn't realize how beneficial they are to the environment!:thumb:

CommuteCommando 08-01-13 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo (Post 15912562)
Damn! I didn't realize how beneficial they are to the environment!:thumb:

:thumb::thumb:

blarnie 08-01-13 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo (Post 15908408)
Oh?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_904990.html

This was not an isolated incident. It happens often enough that the local PD puts up warning signs in areas frequented by coyotes.

Small dog or large cat sized child? As for the local Barney Fife ...

blarnie 08-01-13 04:52 PM

There are more troubling issues, such as the abundant amount of dog poop on the road. In the park.

myfatcat 08-01-13 06:26 PM

I spoke with the rangers. They said the coyote was probably used to humans feeding them which is likely why he came right up to me. It always happens around the same corner by the gate where there's a trash can. The rangers thought he may see the trash can as his "food source". In other words, the coyote may think he's defending his dinner.

So far, it only happens when I ride in the early morning, between 5:30 - 6:30 AM. After that, it's pretty busy up there with walkers, joggers and cyclists. The coyotes get pretty scarce after that.

CommuteCommando 08-01-13 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blarnie (Post 15914921)
There are more troubling issues, such as the abundant amount of dog poop on the road. In the park.


If it has rabbit fur in it, it's coyote poop. (Really, that's how you can tell)

stevepusser 08-09-13 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by alicestrong (Post 15908356)
Well I've read that they're quite indiscriminate in their eating habits, kind of like dogs and will munch on fruit or vegetables if they can find them...especially bananas, cucumbers, carrots, pickles, zucchini. Also apparently they love sausage and hot dogs... I wonder if they'd eat a snake or a rooster? :)

Yes, coyotes are very opportunistic. Avocados, being loaded with fat, are a favorite treat. Snakes, even rattlers, are fair game, if the coyote can get a hold of it and shake it to death...and it depends how hungry the coyote is. I've killed a rattler and had the local "friendly" coyote come out of the brush and eat it with gusto, except the head and rattle (long story, suffice it to say he got to know me as a pup, was sort of friendly, never approached anyone else that I know of, and disappeared a couple of years ago at 4 years of age)

Areas with healthy coyote populations also have healthy songbird populations, since they keep down the numbers of nest and bird predators, such as cats, raccoons, possums, skunks, and so on, without being able get at the nests themselves.

Also, you're constantly being watched from the brush by coyotes and mountain lions even if you don't know it; it's just the odd ones that don't bother to hide from sight that create interest.

CommuteCommando 08-09-13 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by stevepusser (Post 15941880)
Yes, coyotes are very opportunistic. Avocados, being loaded with fat, are a favorite treat. Snakes, even rattlers, are fair game, if the coyote can get a hold of it and shake it to death...and it depends how hungry the coyote is. I've killed a rattler and had the local "friendly" coyote come out of the brush and eat it with gusto, except the head and rattle (long story, suffice it to say he got to know me as a pup, was sort of friendly, never approached anyone else that I know of, and disappeared a couple of years ago at 4 years of age)

Areas with healthy coyote populations also have healthy songbird populations, since they keep down the numbers of nest and bird predators, such as cats, raccoons, possums, skunks, and so on, without being able get at the nests themselves.

Also, you're constantly being watched from the brush by coyotes and mountain lions even if you don't know it; it's just the odd ones that don't bother to hide from sight that create interest.

I once startled a coyote in Pacoima Wash. As soon as she saw me she turned and started limping in the opposite direction from where she had been heading. I believe she was trying to get me to chase her away from her den.

calamarichris 08-09-13 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by stevepusser (Post 15941880)
Yes, coyotes are very opportunistic.

And brilliant IMO. :thumb:

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Originally Posted by stevepusser (Post 15941880)
Also, you're constantly being watched from the brush by coyotes and mountain lions even if you don't know it; it's just the odd ones that don't bother to hide from sight that create interest.

Nearly a decade ago, my little shih-tzu (who just turned 15 yesterday) and I woke up staring at each other in the middle of the night, unable to get back to sleep, so we walked to my workplace to get my bicycle with dog basket. We're strolling down a deserted El Camino Real, which is very busy during the day, 4 to 6 lanes wide. Angel's walking right alongside me, but one coyote kept playfully luring her away from me--acting just like a regular dog: wagging its tail, doing the playful little submissive gestures that domesticated dogs make, and moving brazenly closer & closer!
Soon, my little one isn't listening to me, because she wants to go meet this new night-dog. I finally pick her up, but she's squirming to go meet this strange newcomer. And the coyote's clearly reciprocating interest, and it gets within 2 or 3 yards of me!
I finally shout and charge at the coyote to scare it off, it runs across the 6 lanes of El Camino Real, and I see AT LEAST EIGHT coyote heads staring intently back; "Is it coming? Is it coming?" :eek:
I tried to walk & talk and confidently (but quickly), but they were following me at a respectfulish distance for that full mile to work, sizing me up, weighing options...

When I told my neighbor about this, he said a common tactic of theirs is to send a bait-individual to lure dogs into ambushes that turn into coyote-Thanksgiving.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BcgSIYqhAK...r%2Bgenius.jpg

eja_ bottecchia 08-09-13 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CommuteCommando (Post 15942545)
I once startled a coyote in Pacoima Wash. As soon as she saw me she turned and started limping in the opposite direction from where she had been heading. I believe she was trying to get me to chase her away from her den.

I have seen mother-deer do this exact behavior.

Shimagnolo 08-09-13 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CommuteCommando (Post 15942545)
I once startled a coyote in Pacoima Wash. As soon as she saw me she turned and started limping in the opposite direction from where she had been heading. I believe she was trying to get me to chase her away from her den.

I've seen birds do this, dragging a wing and pretending to be injured, but I never heard of a mammal doing it.

scottspeedster 08-24-13 12:11 PM

lol

Garfield Cat 08-24-13 03:04 PM

Coyote and slow rabbit:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...OZgwkYEK0mM%3A

Mike F 08-24-13 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by calamarichris (Post 15942920)
And brilliant IMO. :thumb:



Nearly a decade ago, my little shih-tzu (who just turned 15 yesterday) and I woke up staring at each other in the middle of the night, unable to get back to sleep, so we walked to my workplace to get my bicycle with dog basket. We're strolling down a deserted El Camino Real, which is very busy during the day, 4 to 6 lanes wide. Angel's walking right alongside me, but one coyote kept playfully luring her away from me--acting just like a regular dog: wagging its tail, doing the playful little submissive gestures that domesticated dogs make, and moving brazenly closer & closer!
Soon, my little one isn't listening to me, because she wants to go meet this new night-dog. I finally pick her up, but she's squirming to go meet this strange newcomer. And the coyote's clearly reciprocating interest, and it gets within 2 or 3 yards of me!
I finally shout and charge at the coyote to scare it off, it runs across the 6 lanes of El Camino Real, and I see AT LEAST EIGHT coyote heads staring intently back; "Is it coming? Is it coming?" :eek:
I tried to walk & talk and confidently (but quickly), but they were following me at a respectfulish distance for that full mile to work, sizing me up, weighing options...

When I told my neighbor about this, he said a common tactic of theirs is to send a bait-individual to lure dogs into ambushes that turn into coyote-Thanksgiving.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BcgSIYqhAK...r%2Bgenius.jpg

They tried to do the same thing to my friends dog in Jamul. I see them all the time. I had one get too close two weeks ago on Genesee (uphill of course), the first time one appeared to challenge me. Gotta love the swivel on the lenzyne, nuked him in the eyes and he fled. The next day, 3 in the same place. This was in an area some what removed from the canyons between condo complexes. Then the the lost kitty signs that appear like clock work a day or two after I see them. Pretty sad to have an outdoor cat if you live near canyons.

rms13 09-16-13 10:40 AM

I also ride there a few days a week and have seen a coyote in the same spot a couple of weeks ago. I was working up the hill at a snails pace 4-5mph and he was just standing on the side of the road. I expected him to run when I got close but he didn't. I got close enough to pet him (but obviously did not). Last week there were two raccoon on the road there on my descent that I expected to move but I had to slam my brakes because they didn't move until I was right next to them.

I hike a lot in Griffith and up the street in the San Gabriels in Glendale and Burbank and have seen plenty of coyotes, bob cats, a mountain lion and signs of bears. They are all around you there every day even if it's rare that you see one. Unless you plan on carrying a Smith and Wesson .500 cal in case of a bear encounter it's not worth arming yourself while riding against animals. If a rabid coyote attacked you your bike would be a pretty good defense weapon. Personally, I was more concerned when I was riding a few days ago there and some jerk was running with his pit bull off leash right at the top of the hill next to the signs that say all dogs must be leashed and viscous breeds are not allowed

rms13 09-16-13 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike F (Post 15996040)
Then the the lost kitty signs that appear like clock work a day or two after I see them. Pretty sad to have an outdoor cat if you live near canyons.

Actually it's pretty sad and irresponsible to have an outdoor cat anywhere. Cars and cat hating humans are a bigger threat then wild animals

rms13 08-21-14 06:40 PM

Saw 4 of them this morning. One stood about 2 inches away and was sniffing me while I was slowly pushing up the backside of trash truck hill. Last year it seemed like I saw one every 4-5 rides and this year I see at least 1 every time I ride in the morning and usually 4-5 of them a day. And they seem to be getting much braver because they hang out on the side of the roads or lay out in the golf course and don't seem to give a damn if people come right up to them. It's probably from idiots feeding them but they don't seem to have much of a natural fear of people anymore


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