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    Quote Originally Posted by social suicide View Post
    Where I come from we worry about the rabbits!


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    you allowed to carry a bb/dart/pellet type ****** for protection?
    Or you could pack a Holy Hand Grenade. (Hope you have time to Pulleth the pin)

    Quote Originally Posted by Shimagnolo View Post
    Oh?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_904990.html

    This was not an isolated incident. It happens often enough that the local PD puts up warning signs in areas frequented by coyotes.

    "The father took his son to The Children’s Hospital urgent care center immediately where his son received a rabies vaccination and is recovering well from the incident,"

    Even if they didn't catch the animal (and it sounds like they didn't), this is prudent since attacks like this by healthy animals are very rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulf View Post
    Down in Laguna Woods (leisure World) the coyotes have been feasting on chihuahuas...
    Damn! I didn't realize how beneficial they are to the environment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shimagnolo View Post
    Damn! I didn't realize how beneficial they are to the environment!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shimagnolo View Post
    Oh?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_904990.html

    This was not an isolated incident. It happens often enough that the local PD puts up warning signs in areas frequented by coyotes.
    Small dog or large cat sized child? As for the local Barney Fife ...

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    There are more troubling issues, such as the abundant amount of dog poop on the road. In the park.

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    I spoke with the rangers. They said the coyote was probably used to humans feeding them which is likely why he came right up to me. It always happens around the same corner by the gate where there's a trash can. The rangers thought he may see the trash can as his "food source". In other words, the coyote may think he's defending his dinner.

    So far, it only happens when I ride in the early morning, between 5:30 - 6:30 AM. After that, it's pretty busy up there with walkers, joggers and cyclists. The coyotes get pretty scarce after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blarnie View Post
    There are more troubling issues, such as the abundant amount of dog poop on the road. In the park.

    If it has rabbit fur in it, it's coyote poop. (Really, that's how you can tell)
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    Quote Originally Posted by alicestrong View Post
    Well I've read that they're quite indiscriminate in their eating habits, kind of like dogs and will munch on fruit or vegetables if they can find them...especially bananas, cucumbers, carrots, pickles, zucchini. Also apparently they love sausage and hot dogs... I wonder if they'd eat a snake or a rooster?
    Yes, coyotes are very opportunistic. Avocados, being loaded with fat, are a favorite treat. Snakes, even rattlers, are fair game, if the coyote can get a hold of it and shake it to death...and it depends how hungry the coyote is. I've killed a rattler and had the local "friendly" coyote come out of the brush and eat it with gusto, except the head and rattle (long story, suffice it to say he got to know me as a pup, was sort of friendly, never approached anyone else that I know of, and disappeared a couple of years ago at 4 years of age)

    Areas with healthy coyote populations also have healthy songbird populations, since they keep down the numbers of nest and bird predators, such as cats, raccoons, possums, skunks, and so on, without being able get at the nests themselves.

    Also, you're constantly being watched from the brush by coyotes and mountain lions even if you don't know it; it's just the odd ones that don't bother to hide from sight that create interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevepusser View Post
    Yes, coyotes are very opportunistic. Avocados, being loaded with fat, are a favorite treat. Snakes, even rattlers, are fair game, if the coyote can get a hold of it and shake it to death...and it depends how hungry the coyote is. I've killed a rattler and had the local "friendly" coyote come out of the brush and eat it with gusto, except the head and rattle (long story, suffice it to say he got to know me as a pup, was sort of friendly, never approached anyone else that I know of, and disappeared a couple of years ago at 4 years of age)

    Areas with healthy coyote populations also have healthy songbird populations, since they keep down the numbers of nest and bird predators, such as cats, raccoons, possums, skunks, and so on, without being able get at the nests themselves.

    Also, you're constantly being watched from the brush by coyotes and mountain lions even if you don't know it; it's just the odd ones that don't bother to hide from sight that create interest.
    I once startled a coyote in Pacoima Wash. As soon as she saw me she turned and started limping in the opposite direction from where she had been heading. I believe she was trying to get me to chase her away from her den.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevepusser View Post
    Yes, coyotes are very opportunistic.
    And brilliant IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by stevepusser View Post
    Also, you're constantly being watched from the brush by coyotes and mountain lions even if you don't know it; it's just the odd ones that don't bother to hide from sight that create interest.
    Nearly a decade ago, my little shih-tzu (who just turned 15 yesterday) and I woke up staring at each other in the middle of the night, unable to get back to sleep, so we walked to my workplace to get my bicycle with dog basket. We're strolling down a deserted El Camino Real, which is very busy during the day, 4 to 6 lanes wide. Angel's walking right alongside me, but one coyote kept playfully luring her away from me--acting just like a regular dog: wagging its tail, doing the playful little submissive gestures that domesticated dogs make, and moving brazenly closer & closer!
    Soon, my little one isn't listening to me, because she wants to go meet this new night-dog. I finally pick her up, but she's squirming to go meet this strange newcomer. And the coyote's clearly reciprocating interest, and it gets within 2 or 3 yards of me!
    I finally shout and charge at the coyote to scare it off, it runs across the 6 lanes of El Camino Real, and I see AT LEAST EIGHT coyote heads staring intently back; "Is it coming? Is it coming?"
    I tried to walk & talk and confidently (but quickly), but they were following me at a respectfulish distance for that full mile to work, sizing me up, weighing options...

    When I told my neighbor about this, he said a common tactic of theirs is to send a bait-individual to lure dogs into ambushes that turn into coyote-Thanksgiving.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuteCommando View Post
    I once startled a coyote in Pacoima Wash. As soon as she saw me she turned and started limping in the opposite direction from where she had been heading. I believe she was trying to get me to chase her away from her den.
    I have seen mother-deer do this exact behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuteCommando View Post
    I once startled a coyote in Pacoima Wash. As soon as she saw me she turned and started limping in the opposite direction from where she had been heading. I believe she was trying to get me to chase her away from her den.
    I've seen birds do this, dragging a wing and pretending to be injured, but I never heard of a mammal doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calamarichris View Post
    And brilliant IMO.



    Nearly a decade ago, my little shih-tzu (who just turned 15 yesterday) and I woke up staring at each other in the middle of the night, unable to get back to sleep, so we walked to my workplace to get my bicycle with dog basket. We're strolling down a deserted El Camino Real, which is very busy during the day, 4 to 6 lanes wide. Angel's walking right alongside me, but one coyote kept playfully luring her away from me--acting just like a regular dog: wagging its tail, doing the playful little submissive gestures that domesticated dogs make, and moving brazenly closer & closer!
    Soon, my little one isn't listening to me, because she wants to go meet this new night-dog. I finally pick her up, but she's squirming to go meet this strange newcomer. And the coyote's clearly reciprocating interest, and it gets within 2 or 3 yards of me!
    I finally shout and charge at the coyote to scare it off, it runs across the 6 lanes of El Camino Real, and I see AT LEAST EIGHT coyote heads staring intently back; "Is it coming? Is it coming?"
    I tried to walk & talk and confidently (but quickly), but they were following me at a respectfulish distance for that full mile to work, sizing me up, weighing options...

    When I told my neighbor about this, he said a common tactic of theirs is to send a bait-individual to lure dogs into ambushes that turn into coyote-Thanksgiving.

    They tried to do the same thing to my friends dog in Jamul. I see them all the time. I had one get too close two weeks ago on Genesee (uphill of course), the first time one appeared to challenge me. Gotta love the swivel on the lenzyne, nuked him in the eyes and he fled. The next day, 3 in the same place. This was in an area some what removed from the canyons between condo complexes. Then the the lost kitty signs that appear like clock work a day or two after I see them. Pretty sad to have an outdoor cat if you live near canyons.
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    I also ride there a few days a week and have seen a coyote in the same spot a couple of weeks ago. I was working up the hill at a snails pace 4-5mph and he was just standing on the side of the road. I expected him to run when I got close but he didn't. I got close enough to pet him (but obviously did not). Last week there were two raccoon on the road there on my descent that I expected to move but I had to slam my brakes because they didn't move until I was right next to them.

    I hike a lot in Griffith and up the street in the San Gabriels in Glendale and Burbank and have seen plenty of coyotes, bob cats, a mountain lion and signs of bears. They are all around you there every day even if it's rare that you see one. Unless you plan on carrying a Smith and Wesson .500 cal in case of a bear encounter it's not worth arming yourself while riding against animals. If a rabid coyote attacked you your bike would be a pretty good defense weapon. Personally, I was more concerned when I was riding a few days ago there and some jerk was running with his pit bull off leash right at the top of the hill next to the signs that say all dogs must be leashed and viscous breeds are not allowed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike F View Post
    Then the the lost kitty signs that appear like clock work a day or two after I see them. Pretty sad to have an outdoor cat if you live near canyons.
    Actually it's pretty sad and irresponsible to have an outdoor cat anywhere. Cars and cat hating humans are a bigger threat then wild animals
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