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Old 09-03-13, 09:19 AM   #26
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i am local also, just got into biking. don't think i can last a 68 miles route
Feel free to join us for any part of the ride, or even meet up at the end for pizza.
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I have also had trouble mapping rides near Laguna Canyon Road and Lake Forest. Using RideWithGPS, I switched from "Optimize for Cycling" to "Optimize for Driving", and the problem went away. In general, I find RWGPS works better when optimized for driving, except when you specifically want to go on a MUP.
Sometimes I find it necessary to zoom way in and switch to "Draw Lines" for some buggy little sections, then switch back to follow roads. One such section is the entrance to Doheney State beach from Park Lantern.
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i am local also, just got into biking. don't think i can last a 68 miles route
Yeah, join us for the first however far you feel like going. Or pizza. if you feel like doing 21 miles, that would encompass the whole 84 road race course (which is that first loop looking thing around lake mission viejo) and head back.
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Yeah, join us for the first however far you feel like going. Or pizza. if you feel like doing 21 miles, that would encompass the whole 84 road race course (which is that first loop looking thing around lake mission viejo) and head back.
yea I'm in! i'll ride with you guys til "R on El Toro", here i'll just make a "L" and head back to the Irvine station. total of 24miles by cars on google map.
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The route looks just about right. An option that does not change the route hardly at all is to get back on the Peters Cyn Trail at Barranca, which will bypass traffic signals at Alton, San Marino, San Carlo, Main and Michelson then dumps you back on Harvard before University.
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/3260158
Thanks CommuteCommando, I updated the OP. I'm not much of a bike path fan, but in this case I like your route - it does avoid all these traffic lights and stop signs. It might be a good idea to take these few miles after the coffee stop at Pete's as "no-attack zone". Just stay together at a slower pace so nobody gets lost.

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yea I'm in! i'll ride with you guys til "R on El Toro", here i'll just make a "L" and head back to the Irvine station. total of 24miles by cars on google map.
Welcome Kensic, glad you can join us. Just a suggestion if you don't feel like riding too long: start with us and ride to Vista Del Lago, but instead of turning up Vista Del Lago, keep going up Los Alisos, make a left on Marguerite (after crossing Santa Margarita Pkwy), then right on El Toro/Santiago Canyon. This will give you a comfortable head start so you can ride through Santiago Canyon and then wait for us at Pete's for coffee. This will give you about 25-26 miles, but it will avoid the hardest section of the route (the 1984 road race loop). Getting back to the Irvine train station from Pete's is easy. Just an idea, you decide.
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Welcome Kensic, glad you can join us. Just a suggestion if you don't feel like riding too long: start with us and ride to Vista Del Lago, but instead of turning up Vista Del Lago, keep going up Los Alisos, make a left on Marguerite (after crossing Santa Margarita Pkwy), then right on El Toro/Santiago Canyon. This will give you a comfortable head start so you can ride through Santiago Canyon and then wait for us at Pete's for coffee. This will give you about 25-26 miles, but it will avoid the hardest section of the route (the 1984 road race loop). Getting back to the Irvine train station from Pete's is easy. Just an idea, you decide.
yea we will see, it depends on how fast were riding and how tired i get, i have a flat bar hybrid (diamondback insight 1)....don't think i can keep up with yall road bike hardcore peeps.

ok gotta bike 5-10 miles aday from now til the date, so i can build up my stamina.

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yea we will see, it depends on how fast were riding and how tired i get, i have a flat bar hybrid (diamondback insight 1)....don't think i can keep up with yall road bike hardcore peeps.

ok gotta bike 5-10 miles aday from now til the date, so i can build up my stamina.
I've had my a$$ kicked more than once by a dude on a hybrid or mountain bike.

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Just for the heck of it, I mapped out if I parked at oside train station and rode up to Marguerite n Avery is 40 miles. How is the San juan bike trail that goes from Dana point up?
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Just for the heck of it, I mapped out if I parked at oside train station and rode up to Marguerite n Avery is 40 miles. How is the San juan bike trail that goes from Dana point up?
I have riden that area going down, but not up. The trail is pretty good, not a lot of joggers and dog walkers, but a few. Just be careful not to get "Stooged" by a kid with a surfboard. I called "on your left" and she turned to look. I ducked to avoid face plant with said surfboard. (She had it on her head safari style) Here is one of my routes. http://ridewithgps.com/routes/3303259 At mile 13.8 I have it turning left and going through some residential areas to get to a bike trail under the 5. Most people take a right and take La Paz to Muirlands, which is direct and requires a little less climbing. I ususally have no broblem with cloverleaf intersections, but the ones under the 5 in So OC are nasty and I prefer to avoid them.
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i'm in. got the day off so i'll be there for the whole 9 yards. coming up from san diego omg early so i
can tack on some miles before the festivities begin to make it a century for me.
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thanks for the link, I'll try to get off on Oso. Looks pretty flat
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i'm in. got the day off so i'll be there for the whole 9 yards. coming up from san diego omg early so i
can tack on some miles before the festivities begin to make it a century for me.
I know, I know... 68-mile ride is for sissies...
O-B, glad you can make it, you're the instigator after all.
BTW, I saw GP on the road today and he committed to the ride too (and I've got witnesses). Let's see if CalamariChris will be up to the challenge. I wonder what's happening with him, usually he doesn't miss rides that involve beer.
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I may be in also.
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Dammit, I'm OUT.

Stupid soccer. Sorry. I hope we get another one of these things going later so I can enjoy a refreshing beverage in the company of other cyclists.
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I'm in, but no guarantees I'll make it past Peets. Still building strength after a March crash put me out of commission.

Awesome loop. I've done many of these climbs in combination with one another, but never this complete list at once. I'm betting it's 5K feet of climbing, though.
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so how fast do you think we're going to be averaging? currently i do about 10-12 mph
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Dammit, I'm OUT.
Stupid soccer. Sorry. I hope we get another one of these things going later so I can enjoy a refreshing beverage in the company of other cyclists.
Bummer TH. Well, next time. I took your name off the list, but if something changes until Saturday, you're always welcome back.

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Awesome loop. I've done many of these climbs in combination with one another, but never this complete list at once. I'm betting it's 5K feet of climbing, though.
Thanks Uncle, you are in! Don't worry about the distance, ride as far as you feel like. I don't think the climbing is more than 4000' (but that's an estimate sucked out of a thumb). Anyway, most of it is in the first 20 miles.

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so how fast do you think we're going to be averaging? currently i do about 10-12 mph
If I have to make an uneducated guess - we'd average around 15 mph over the entire route. I did a big part of this loop solo about 3 months ago and I averaged just under 15 mph. And I'm an average recreational weekender. As I said earlier - feel free to ride as much as you want. We can make a plan at the start and maybe split in 2 groups (faster and slower), depending on who shows up.

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so how fast do you think we're going to be averaging? currently i do about 10-12 mph
I volunteer to be the designated boat anchor who will be lagging behind everyone else. I've always had more endurance than speed.
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Dammit, I'm OUT.

Stupid soccer. Sorry. I hope we get another one of these things going later so I can enjoy a refreshing beverage in the company of other cyclists.
I had an interesting exchange with my wife this morning.

"BTW, Im riding with a bunch of people up in OC next week"
"What! Don't you remember Muriel's daugther is getting married that afternoon?"

D'Oh!
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Muriel's daugther is getting married
Muriel's wedding? LMAO. Do check out that movie if you like goofy comedies.

We'll have to get together and do our own Left Turn Tour of OC.
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I'm OK with Carpooling, but it looks like jsigone, GP and Cbad may be a full car unless you can get four people and four bikes in a Prius.

The route looks just about right. An option that does not change the route hardly at all is to get back on the Peters Cyn Trail at Barranca, which will bypass traffic signals at Alton, San Marino, San Carlo, Main and Michelson then dumps you back on Harvard before University.
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/3260158

As far as the Laguna Beach detour, I have only ridden it once. The ride up to the turn at Brodway, the car traffic was so thick that the cars were doing bike speed or slower. There was one guy in an SUV that was as thick as the traffic, but I guess I can handle that.

Start from the Irvine train station (15215 Barranca Pkwy, Irvine, CA 92618).
(L) on Barranca/Muirlands
(L) Los Alisos
(R) Vista del Lago
(R) Marguerite
(L) La Paz (regroup on top of La Paz)
(L) Olympiad
(R) Marguerite
(R) El Toro/Santiago Canyon (regroup on top, about 2 miles from Cook's corner)
(L) Jamboree
(L) Portola
Coffee stop at Pete's Coffee and Tea (cnr. Portola and Culver) about 35 miles into the ride.
(L) on Culver (delete)
(R) Irvine Blvd (delete)
(R) Portola (backtrack)
(L) Crosswalk to Peters Canyon Wash Trail entrance (press the button)
(L) Peters Canyon Wash Trail
(R) Harvard
(R) San Diego Creek Bikeway(At Barranca)-Becomes Peters Canyon Trail (mi 40.2)
(L) Exit Peters Canyon Path (mi 42.3)
(R) Harvard (mi 42.3)
(R) Berkley Ave/E Peltason Dr
(L) Anteater
(R) Bonita Canyon
(L) Turtle Ridge (delete, we can start at the bottom of NPC, not have to deal with the slow light at Turtle Ridge, and have a continuous climb)
(L) Newport Coast (regroup on top just before Pelican Hill)
(L) PCH
Coffee stop at the Crystal Cove Starbucks (7958 Pacific Coast Highway, Newport Beach, CA 92657) about 53 miles into the ride (and just about 1 mile after the turn on PCH - make a left on Crystal Heights(traffic light), then first right into shopping center)
(L) PCH
(L) Cliff
(L) Laguna Canyon CA-133 (regroup at Laguna Canyon and Lake Forest Dr)
After Lake Forest Dr go to the next traffic light (Pavona St??) and very carefully make a left turn to stay on Laguna Canyon Rd.
Cross over I-405
(R) Barranca
(L) into the Irvine train station parking lot
Looks like I'm in. I made some minor comments in orange. Also, Laguna Canyon Road has an on-and-off bike lane up until El Toro and literally becomes a freeway after El Toro (albeit with a decent shoulder) so we would need to be on our best behavior.
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I had an interesting exchange with my wife this morning.

"BTW, Im riding with a bunch of people up in OC next week"
"What! Don't you remember Muriel's daugther is getting married that afternoon?"
Hey CC, come ride with us. I'll get you one of these cards. If the Budweiser Institute says it works, it must be true.
I still appreciate your help designing the route. Thanks!

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Looks like I'm in. I made some minor comments in orange. Also, Laguna Canyon Road has an on-and-off bike lane up until El Toro and literally becomes a freeway after El Toro (albeit with a decent shoulder) so we would need to be on our best behavior.
Thanks Elvo. I changed the route so we'll backtrack on Portola. As for avoiding Turtle Ridge - I agree with you and I've changed that part too. The traffic light is slow and annoying. But Turtle Ridge cuts about a mile compared to going all the way to the bottom of NPC, so for those of us who might get dropped, I reckon it's still a good shortcut.
As for Laguna Canyon - it's got a wide shoulder after the CA-73 so I wouldn't worry too much about it. But we must be careful when making that left turn at the end. Maybe just do the "sissy turn", i.e. cross Pavona and then use the pedestrian crossing.
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I'm out. Too much home repair stuff to do and just not enough time to do it.
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Would have liked to join you Jimmy but I'll be riding up in Big Bear on that day, trying to make Onyx look like an insignificant climb!

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