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    I like the taco shop but I never ask what kind of meat it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biker395 View Post
    In that case, easy choice. 7-11 it is!
    You can always have boca tacos up at Mother's Kitchen at the summit. They aren't stingy with their restroom, their tacos are great IMO, and you can pretty much make it from there back to the 7-11 without pedaling a single stroke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalai View Post
    Trip was great! A little ambitious with the driving covering over 5,600km driving solo in the three weeks but I got all the planned rides in...

    Alpe d'Huez and South Grade Palomar South Grade are quite different. Both have numerous harpins, but Palomar is longer but less steep and a far more consistent gradient. Where as Alpe d'Huez hits you hard for the first couple of km with double digits gradient and fluctuates in gradient far more making it hard to hold a consistent tempo.
    Since returning I haven't got around to writing up the last three days of my trip including Palomar Mountain. Really need to find the time...
    Thanks Dalai, it’s always good to know the opinion of somebody who has actually done both climbs. There are plenty of scientists here that just crunch the numbers while sitting on the couch and conclude that the two climbs are identical.
    But that shot of Mt Ventoux... just proves that Palomar is a better piece of asphalt.
    Give us a shout if you come this side of the world again. We'll organize a BF ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calamarichris View Post
    Can't believe you called Palomar a "sucky" descent. It's one of the spectacularest pieces of asphalt in the world.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamarichris View Post
    You mean "spectacularity"?
    Listen here ol' son - if there is "spectacularest" then there is "spectacularness". Anyway, I think we can reach an agreement on the topic after a few beers. I'll try to be open-minded and might have lunch at Mother's Kitchen too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyNH View Post
    Thanks Dalai, itís always good to know the opinion of somebody who has actually done both climbs. There are plenty of scientists here that just crunch the numbers while sitting on the couch and conclude that the two climbs are identical.
    But that shot of Mt Ventoux... just proves that Palomar is a better piece of asphalt.
    Give us a shout if you come this side of the world again. We'll organize a BF ride.
    No worries JimmyNH. Would love to be there for the 20th and come back for Palomar Mountain! And now I know the climb better I need to improve on my time up the hill, as I only snuck into the top 100 on the Strava segment Palomar Mt South Grade (Taco shop to Summit Stop Sign)...

    Might be a while before I get away again - after years not travelling OS I've had a great run over the last three years. But if I head your way I'll be in touch.
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    I'm 1107/1545 on that segment...you'll be waiting a while for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsigone View Post
    I'm 1107/1545 on that segment...you'll be waiting a while for me
    It's a good opportunity to improve your standing then! If you go on a 48 hour fast, you can still drop a pound or two before the ride. I'm 821 but I don't think I'll be able to match that time.

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    haha no fasting allowed.....more like eat MORE.... riding to SanO power plant tomorrow, then Palomar w/ you guys sunday but riding from home on both days. I need to save some legs to climb Cole grade fast enough not to tip over on the way home. At least the pauma valley will be in the nice 80's this weekend oppose to 100+ a couple months ago.

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    1203 here but it was in the middle of a d.i.y. century as part of a
    amgen toc 2013 stage one ride in reverse. cautiously optimistic
    i can crack that elusive sub-1200 threshold drafting some unsuspecting
    soul the first 100 yards from the taco shop before i'm completely
    gassed and crawl the remaining 12 miles solo.
    i'd rather be alive wrong than dead right

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    Hey Dalai, top 100 on this climb is a great achievement. There are tons of pros, licensed racers and simply bad-arse guys like Chris who train on that hill. And as you mentioned - knowing the route helps a lot. These are mostly local guys.
    I'm not on Strava. My best time ever on South Grade is 1:35, not sure if it is good enough to keep me out of the bottom 100.
    Old people are keen to give good advice because of their inability to give bad example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyNH View Post
    I'm not on Strava. My best time ever on South Grade is 1:35, not sure if it is good enough to keep me out of the bottom 100.
    My 821/1545 is 1:38.

    riding to SanO power plant tomorrow
    Are you riding to the power plant with Celo Pacific? Isn't that going to be like 120 miles round trip and you'll have to leave before 7 to catch up with the group?

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    I'm thinking I may show up. Do you guys think you'll all be sticking together or is it a few groups of various speeds regrouping at the top? I've never done palomar and even though it's freaking far away I may still come down there.

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    Does anyone want to carpool? I'm in Irvine

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmX View Post
    I'm thinking I may show up. Do you guys think you'll all be sticking together or is it a few groups of various speeds regrouping at the top? I've never done palomar and even though it's freaking far away I may still come down there.
    You won't regret it. I've met guys who've trucked their motorcycles from Ventura just to ride up and down that hill all day.
    And the buzz-ruts on the center-divide have cut down on much of the squidiocy IMO. And I'm not positive, but I believe the Marines have been forbidden from riding there by the post CG, which cuts down on a lot of the motorcycle traffic. Sunday's forecasted high in Valley Center (at the base) is only 82, so we should have lovely, cool weather too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyNH View Post
    Hey Dalai, top 100 on this climb is a great achievement. There are tons of pros, licensed racers and simply fat-arse guys like Chris who train on that hill. And as you mentioned - knowing the route helps a lot. These are mostly local guys.
    FIFY.
    There has been an explosion of good microbreweries near me, and I'll be vying for Sunday's Lantern Rouge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calamarichris View Post
    FIFY.
    There has been an explosion of good microbreweries near me, and I'll be vying for Sunday's Lantern Rouge.
    alas, simultaneously the staff of life and the bane of my existence as well. you will face furious caboose competition sunday.
    i'd rather be alive wrong than dead right

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooga-booga View Post
    alas, simultaneously the staff of life and the bane of my existence as well. you will face furious caboose competition sunday.
    You up for mustering at Ironfist afterward? They're my favorite so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamster View Post
    Are you riding to the power plant with Celo Pacific? Isn't that going to be like 120 miles round trip and you'll have to leave before 7 to catch up with the group?
    yah with Celo, they leave downtown cbad at 8:30, my route varies 90-110 miles pending which way I get there and come back. Via palomar airport road/101 to the harbor bridge is 25 miles one way. If I took Jesmond Dean, 395, Camino Del Rey, 76 to MUP it's 33 miles to the bridge at the harbor. Either way I have to be on the road at 7, but I can slack 10-15min via Palomar route though. Though 395 route is longer, its faster, slightly downhill (after Jesmond D), handfull of lights. I can hold 20-22mph ave all the way to the harbor vs tackle all the stop lights through esco/san marcos/cbad.

    Leave by 7, be home around 1-2 which makes wifey happy....then off to tackle Bates nut farm for pumpkin pickin

    Do you want to tag along? I won't be the only one w/ an epic weekend Worse case, you can take the coaster back to save 20 miles...though I think the bike might be faster
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    Quote Originally Posted by calamarichris View Post
    You up for mustering at Ironfist afterward? They're my favorite so far.
    You obviously didn't direct this question to me, but I'll be up for it. I haven't broken it up to my ol' lady yet, but I'm sure I'll have my permission slip signed for the day. And if I don't, well "it's easier to beg forgiveness than to ask permission".
    I hope I can get something carcass-free to eat at that place, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by calamarichris View Post
    You up for mustering at Ironfist afterward? They're my favorite so far.


    (un)fortunately i hafta work at 3pm so no adult bevvies for me post-ride this time.

    fave sd breweries in order:

    alpine
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    have only had one or two of the iron fist beers. don't remember anything about them.
    have to use a beer app to keep track of all the different beers/breweries. heck...seems
    like many of them make multiple ipa's, porters, etc.
    i'd rather be alive wrong than dead right

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabantik00 View Post
    probably in for this.

    hey, chris, the 80s called. they're looking for you.

    oh yeah? well the jerk store called...
    hey I have that shirt and a Z power too... I can even go retro Giro Ventoux if I have too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsigone View Post
    yah with Celo, they leave downtown cbad at 8:30, my route varies 90-110 miles pending which way I get there and come back. Via palomar airport road/101 to the harbor bridge is 25 miles one way. If I took Jesmond Dean, 395, Camino Del Rey, 76 to MUP it's 33 miles to the bridge at the harbor. Either way I have to be on the road at 7, but I can slack 10-15min via Palomar route though. Though 395 route is longer, its faster, slightly downhill (after Jesmond D), handfull of lights. I can hold 20-22mph ave all the way to the harbor vs tackle all the stop lights through esco/san marcos/cbad.

    Leave by 7, be home around 1-2 which makes wifey happy....then off to tackle Bates nut farm for pumpkin pickin

    Do you want to tag along? I won't be the only one w/ an epic weekend Worse case, you can take the coaster back to save 20 miles...though I think the bike might be faster
    I'm mainly not sure if I'm motivated enough to get up at 6:30 on Saturday. Otherwise I'm game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamster View Post
    I'm mainly not sure if I'm motivated enough to get up at 6:30 on Saturday. Otherwise I'm game.
    I hear ya but I try to get outta the house before my 9month old wakes up...otherwise I might get stuck at home longer then I'd like

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    Crud, I'm out, probably with a broken bone in my foot.
    Some monster-truck clod turned off his signal (inadvertently, most likely) when he swing out of the left hand turn lane. Well, turns out the reason he was swinging out of the lane was because he was making a U-turn, he turned back into me and I'm pretty sure I've got at least one broken bone in my foot right now.
    You guys have fun.

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    Sorry Chris. Heal quick.

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