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    Senior Member CommuteCommando's Avatar
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    I whitnessed a Sherifs patrol car pass an incident where a car right crossed a group of about 5 riders SB at Encinitas Blvd. The patrol car clearly whitnessed it, yet did nothing. At the top of the hill a mortorcycle cop was ticketing bicyclists. Sure, some guys ride like jerks, but most were not, and the sherrifs were clearly targeting bikes to the exclusion of all else. That is harrassment. Period.
    As much as you paid for that Beemer [Mercedies, Audi, Escalade], I'm surprised it didn't come equipped with turn signals.

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    I find it odd that this a road I have my fair share of saddle time on and I have a much different perspective. Sure I have dodged the surfboards, the beach chairs and brushed by cars. But when one rides the road there are obstacles. I have seen my fair share of Sheriffs, CHP and the most interaction I have had from them is a nod. I do crazy stuff like stop at red lights and stop signs. I also have seen my fair share of triple riding yucking it up cyclist whom seem oblivious of their surroundings. Rolling through reds and stop signs like it is their right. I find that very uncool as it reflects on me as a cyclist. As a example yesterday on my ride I was not on the 101 but on the 56 bike path at Camino del Sur. While at the light waiting for it to turn 4 people ran the light. Two individuals and a group of two. So from this little experiment at this time only 20% of the cyclist (me) followed the rules. These were not seasoned cyclists in my view from their pace (the ones going in my direction were caught and dropped even though my pace was far from top end and I am not fast) and general appearance. So my guess is not one of these cyclist if they were in a car would run a light. Yet on a bicycle they find it perfectly normal. This is a view that must change. I have also seen my fair share of roadies that are fast bomb through this same intersection whom are seasoned and faster than me. I live in this area and ride it and drive it and am often appalled at cyclist behaviour. I conclude that the general principle of following the rules is often not taught nor observed. Granted I am no saint, at the Carmel Valley Rd where there are few cars I almost never wait for the light. The only time I do is If I have just past some family and I do not want the kids to see me run it. Selective sure, but honest. When in high traffic area such as the 101 and other high traffic areas I stop. Some stop signs are more of a slow down and roll but at least there is some semblance of an effort, reds are always stopped for by me.

    We need better behaviour from cyclist as a whole. Del Mar Encinitas and Leucadia probably have more violations by bicycles run red and stops signs than any other 10 mile stretch in the city. And you wonder why the LEO have a CHP on their shoulder. They see it time and time again. Bicyclist get a bad name due to bad behavior not by all cyclists but the few the are blatant stand out. There are enough of them that all our reputations suffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallo View Post
    Granted I am no saint, at the Carmel Valley Rd where there are few cars I almost never wait for the light. The only time I do is If I have just past some family and I do not want the kids to see me run it. Selective sure, but honest. When in high traffic area such as the 101 and other high traffic areas I stop. Some stop signs are more of a slow down and roll but at least there is some semblance of an effort, reds are always stopped for by me.

    We need better behaviour from cyclist as a whole. Del Mar Encinitas and Leucadia probably have more violations by bicycles run red and stops signs than any other 10 mile stretch in the city. And you wonder why the LEO have a CHP on their shoulder. They see it time and time again. Bicyclist get a bad name due to bad behavior not by all cyclists but the few the are blatant stand out. There are enough of them that all our reputations suffer.

    be safe ride smart
    All true. I always stop for stop signs, if I have to yield to other vehicles in the intersection, due to right hand rules and such. Often it is a "track stand" stop, and if there are no cars there, I often run them. The speed I run them at is often the same as the speed of most cars "stopping" at them.

    The incident that drew the ticketing I witnessed, was witnessed by a bike shop owner who stated that the cyclist cited had left the bike lane to pass another cyclists (legal, per the vehicle code), and safe if done properly.

    https://www.facebook.com/BikeWalkEnc...49772738373521
    As much as you paid for that Beemer [Mercedies, Audi, Escalade], I'm surprised it didn't come equipped with turn signals.

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