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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    Depends on your perspective... if you're really Russian then you should use little air quotes around the word "cold" when southern californians are discussing weather. It's likely to be around 40 at the start though.
    It would not be cold for him if he could wear his tulup, valenki and ushanka ... but it would be pretty hard to ride a bicycle dressed like that.

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    I've ridden in COLD weather last year that most of you would not even go outside for. Cycling in cold weather is not my idea of fun, I only did it because I needed to get the miles in.

    If I can avoid it, I do.

    I'll check the forecast on Friday though, can't really predict a week out.
    -Cat-3-o-meter: TBD :/

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    Last year it was 40 at the start, yeah cold but that just means the rest of the day will be perfect. I think arm warmers will be enough, maybe a vest.

    My Garmin said 59 on average for last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesper4 View Post
    Last year it was 40 at the start, yeah cold but that just means the rest of the day will be perfect. I think arm warmers will be enough, maybe a vest.

    My Garmin said 59 on average for last year.
    Mine said 63 average but I was probably out longer than you were and it definitely got nice in the afternoon.

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    I'll be doing the 100 miler. The wifey will do the 50 miler. My Garmin recorded 55 degree average. No deep dish wheels for me. The winds are too unpredictable over that wide area.

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    last year we started with leg and arm warmers and a jacket - all of those were off after the first hour or so and looking back I'd just do some embro on the legs and wear the arms and maybe a light jacket
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    2 days out, weather.gov is showing a much more favorable forecast. Low of 48 F and 6 mph wind in Desert Hot Springs, 50 F to 72 F and 2-6 mph in Palm Springs, 50% cloud cover but no rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamster View Post
    2 days out, weather.gov is showing a much more favorable forecast. Low of 48 F and 6 mph wind in Desert Hot Springs, 50 F to 72 F and 2-6 mph in Palm Springs, 50% cloud cover but no rain.
    Can't get better than that. (OK, it can. The wind can be 10 - 15 mph, and shifting to be always at your back)
    As much as you paid for that Beemer [Mercedies, Audi, Escalade], I'm surprised it didn't come equipped with turn signals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamster View Post
    2 days out, weather.gov is showing a much more favorable forecast. Low of 48 F and 6 mph wind in Desert Hot Springs, 50 F to 72 F and 2-6 mph in Palm Springs, 50% cloud cover but no rain.
    Looking like it's going to be an awesome day on the bike.

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    Uh oh, according to accuweather:

    ..WIND ADVISORY NOW IN EFFECT UNTIL 10 AM PST SATURDAY...
    THE WIND ADVISORY IS NOW IN EFFECT UNTIL 10 AM PST SATURDAY.
    * WINDS...AREAS OF WEST TO NORTHWEST 15 TO 30 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 55 MPH IN MOUNTAIN PASSES AND WIND PRONE AREAS.
    * TIMING...STRONGEST OVERNIGHT HOURS.
    * LOCATION...STRONGEST WINDS WILL BE NEAR MOUNTAIN RIDGE TOPS AND ON ADJACENT DESERT SLOPES IN CANYONS AND MOUNTAIN PASSES.

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    Here is a report out next to the freeway where it will be the worst. Not like I haven't done this before. Remember wind makes you meaner and the down hills will be awesome!
    http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick...9#.UvV3Uk2YZaQ
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    It worked, I'm mean now.

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    Killed it out there http://app.strava.com/activities/112043116 My fastest century.

    Sadly some was also hit and killed. Friend of a friend locally.
    http://www.mydesert.com/article/2014...-truck-thermal
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    Overall a great ride, but the fatal accident is tragic. I almost feel guilty for enjoying my day so much knowing that it ended so horribly for someone else.

    However, the weather was perfect and the people were awesome. The only issue I had was that before the ride, they made a huge deal of how stocked the sag stops would be ("we guarantee you'll gain weight"), but in reality they were pretty barren, with one completely missing. After the pretty sweet spreads last year, I was counting on the stops for snacks and fuel, but I ended up running on near empty for quite a ways.

    Great ride though, I'm sad it's over!

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    All I noticed was there was a little breeze in the beginning. I thought I just flat out missed the second stop. Too bad about somebody getting killed. Cars always win, we always hurt. So right about lack of nourishment at the stops. I bonked at 97 miles but nobody noticed because it was all down hill from there. Total time 6:30 am to 1:22 pm. On the Cannondale SS Mountain Bike.

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    really? I had no problems with the sag stops... the main difference this year was the spacing - sag 1 was at 22 miles or so and then no more till 52. Then 62, 82 and 92, so I skipped the last one.

    Anyway, I had zero issues with the food provided and also logged my fastest century despite the gentle sea breezes to start the day - http://app.strava.com/activities/112034052

    Not up to lesper's standards though, I'll have to work on that.

    As for that poor woman that was killed, we got held up at a light near there by some ambulances & fire trucks and I have to think that's what they were for. Very sad. Of course, CHP's sound byte was "these are not closed roads and the cyclists need to obey traffic laws" blah blah blah. Thanks.

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    I think the same thing that happened to us happened to them. I was with a group of about 7. We rolled to the stop. The front guys yelled clear, car coming fast. We stopped. The car coming fast slowed and stopped even though they didn't have a stop sign. A car from the other direction never stopped. It does get confusing when this happens. I dislike when cars give the right of way even though they clearly have it. Ride defensively and take precautions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesper4 View Post
    I dislike when cars give the right of way even though they clearly have it.
    I agree. Rules and laws are easier to follow when they are applied 100% of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycho Brahe View Post
    I agree. Rules and laws are easier to follow when they are applied 100% of the time.
    +1. And of course, just because one car stops for you doesn't mean the rest won't, or that some guy behind the first car won't pass him on the left. Be careful out there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesper4 View Post
    I dislike when cars give the right of way even though they clearly have it. Ride defensively and take precautions.
    I agree. These people believe they are being nice. They don't realize that it actually creates confusion that increases the danger for all.
    As much as you paid for that Beemer [Mercedies, Audi, Escalade], I'm surprised it didn't come equipped with turn signals.

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    I'm still dieting, so the problem for me was striking the balance between finishing and not messing up the diet. I had 1200 kcal in / 300 kcal out on Wed, 1400 kcal in / 220 kcal out on Thu, 1550 kcal in / 0 kcal out on Fri, 380 kcal in the car driving to Palm Springs on Saturday morning, and 980 kcal (gels, drinks, etc) on the bike. This got me to the end, but the power was definitely pretty low. Took me 7:40 total time with average HR 131. I think that, because I lost too much time on the first hill and in the first SAG, the tailwind on Dillon had disappeared and I had to pedal all the way through. I see that lesper hit 41-42 mph in a few spots during the descent. My top speed was 36.5, and that was on aero bars.

    For the first time I'm closely tracking calories before and after a long event like this. This will be interesting.

    It felt like the organization was so-so. Giving away water in small bottles seemed wasteful. Once past the truck stop SAG, signage was either poorly visible or missing in places, and map on the provided flyer was hard to read. To add to the confusion, the route was different from last year. Many people took at least one wrong turn, and were coming and going in all directions. I followed the flow of cyclists more or less on auto-pilot and found myself in La Quinta, several miles off course. I had to use the GPS to find my way back. Never found one of the SAGs (mile 82), flyer said "Gerald Ford Elementary School", I got to the school but the SAG wasn't there. It was apparently moved to different spot a few miles before that, and no one bothered to correct the route sheet. Promised live music was seriously lacking. I don't recall hearing music at the first two stops (but it was too busy and noisy there for music anyway), and the band was already packing at the Lowe's stop by the time I got there. The stop was also out of gels and clif bloks and they only had sandwiches and bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesper4 View Post
    I think the same thing that happened to us happened to them. I was with a group of about 7. We rolled to the stop. The front guys yelled clear, car coming fast. We stopped. The car coming fast slowed and stopped even though they didn't have a stop sign. A car from the other direction never stopped. It does get confusing when this happens. I dislike when cars give the right of way even though they clearly have it. Ride defensively and take precautions.
    I looked up the intersection in the article and remember coming through there - I was thinking at the time it was a rather dangerous intersection to include in such a large organized ride. Traffic coming FAST from both directions, no stop or light. PLUS, there are trees obstructing the vision of traffic approaching from the left. Something tells me they will change the route next year, or provide traffic control at this intersection. I'm surprised they didn't put a traffic control officer here to begin with - surely there were other intersections that DID have traffic control that benefited far less!

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    Yeah totally agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamster View Post
    For the first time I'm closely tracking calories before and after a long event like this. This will be interesting.

    It felt like the organization was so-so. Giving away water in small bottles seemed wasteful.
    I find that long tiring rides really mess with my diet because I want to eat everything that isn't nailed down when I'm done (when I'm tracking what I'm doing...I need to start again). Shorter rides that don't really mess with my system seem more beneficial, so share your findings if you don't mind!

    PS I liked the water bottles - I hate tap water in this state. I skipped the gatorade this year and just used those little camelback/nuun tablets, worked great, tasted great. Did Arrowhead sponsor the ride or something?

    I dumped the ride into my garmin 800 - no wrong turns, but I did notice that at least one arrow was messed-with pointing in a different direction.

    Quote Originally Posted by jerk85 View Post
    I'm surprised they didn't put a traffic control officer here to begin with - surely there were other intersections that DID have traffic control that benefited far less!
    You'd think a temporary stop sign or two at those intersections would do wonders on event day. Asking cyclists to cross 60 mph traffic is looking for trouble. My wife and kids rode the 25 mile ride and they had cops everywhere. For the most part, I think the only intersections I saw cops on were within the boundaries of the shorter ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    I find that long tiring rides really mess with my diet because I want to eat everything that isn't nailed down when I'm done (when I'm tracking what I'm doing...I need to start again). Shorter rides that don't really mess with my system seem more beneficial, so share your findings if you don't mind!

    PS I liked the water bottles - I hate tap water in this state.
    It's sorta like this for me too. I ate about 1200 yesterday evening and I'm already up to 1000 today (I'd normally be at 400-500 by this time of day). And that's being reasonably restrained and without any junk food in the house. But, since my total for yesterday was something like 2500 in / 3200 out, even going above target today still means good progress on average.

    I can't really tell the difference in taste between tap water and bottle water. As far as I know, tap water quality standards are basically the same if not more stringent than bottled water standards. And if they want to bring bottle water, they could at least get half-gallon or gallon bottles, this way they don't end up with so much trash.

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