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Old 04-26-14, 07:48 PM   #1
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Had a run-in with a bad driver here in Whittier tonight.

So it's kind of annoying/amusing - I'm sure we've all had a bad driver incident, and possibly as recently as today. Most of the time I just shake my head and do some cussing. Today was different!

So, I'm out for a nice little family ride with my wife and 11 yr old son today and we're cruising around Friendly Hills and some lady in a BMW zoomed around us and dove back in in front of me. I estimate that she missed me by 3 or 4 inches, it was close. License plate "I TARRY" and that's when it hit me, the same jackass did the same thing to me 2 weeks ago when I was ALSO riding with my wife and son on residential side streets and ALSO missed me by about 3 or 4 inches in an intersection.

Who puts custom plates on their car and then drives like a jerk?

SO naturally, I took off, saw what street they turned up and pulled into her driveway.

Quoth I: Do you realize you almost ran me over?

She: I did no such thing!

Me: You missed me by about 3 inches!

Long story short, she said I can't ride in roads unless I'm going the speed of cars, she said she honked before she passed us, said cyclists run red lights and stop signs all the time and I said - Lady: all I'm asking is that you give me more room when you're passing. We're not talking about other people running stop signs, we're talking about you almost hitting me. I actually didn't yell or curse during this whole interaction, which I reckon makes me eligible for sainthood any day now.

Then she went mental and started screaming and cursing, and said her husband has dementia and she can't deal with all this.

She shut the garage door and I left. See if you can figure out which house belongs to the obnoxious aggressive driver: Bike Ride Profile | Family near death experience near Whittier | Times and Records | Strava

So I checked when I got home and I know THREE people who live on that street and since she's on the HOA mailing list, I know exactly who it is.

Interesting side bar - my wife said it was a man driving the car a few weeks ago when he almost whacked me in an intersection, so I guess her dementiated husband is still driving. Yay for all of us.

That is all. Where's Mayday? He's usually the victim of bad driving in Whittier. I wish he were still riding around here so he could soak up all the bad driving incidents.
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Old 04-26-14, 08:04 PM   #2
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I think you should give a document with the legal road use and responsibilities of drivers to the HOA, so they can post it up.

"There have been incidents of aggressive driving by members of the HOA against families on bicycles. Here is a reminder of the rules of the road... etc,etc"
Maybe a nice way to get everyone thinking about it and self-police if it happens again.

That's crazy though, I ride out that way often. I'm surprised she did that with your family in tow.
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Old 04-26-14, 09:48 PM   #3
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My wife had the same idea about sending out reminders...

We were riding down seranata (tough guy roadies like to ride UP seranata, it) and frankly, there's so little traffic it makes no sense. A few weeks ago, the intersection where she (or her husband) buzzed me was riding down bogardus and turning left on to russell. The three of us were parallel occupying the full width of the lane on Bogardus and when we turned, left, the jerk couldn't wait 5 seconds and cut the corner short nearly flattening me (I was on the left of our little group)...

But it's OK because some other cyclist ran a red light. If I HAD run the stop sign I wouldn't have had any issues... and woudln't have slowed her down at all. I'm sure that never occurred to her.
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Old 04-26-14, 10:02 PM   #4
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I'm pretty sure the same woman in a Jetta honked and swerved around me a couple of weeks apart last year. Mind you, this is on a road with a bike sharrows painted in the right lane. I've also encountered a Honda CRV on at least two occasions that randomly honked it's horn while driving down the same street. The first time I was like WTF? The second time I heard a car honking its horn and recognized the CRV. There are some really weird folks out there. That is why I prefer to ride off in the bike lane or on the shoulder if available. The few spots where I take the lane are on fairly lightly traveled roads.

If I do take the lane I feel naked without a mirror. With a mirror you can move out a bit to give yourself room to bail if they buzz you.

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Old 04-26-14, 10:51 PM   #5
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I do need to get a mirror... and a gopro.

I rarely hog the road and also prefer the shoulder. Oh well.
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I would call the police, and create a record........................
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Bahhhh, just the other day I was taking in a ride in the 'burbs and I'm cruising along saying "Wow aint this place pretty! Sure would be nice to live here some day" VOOOOM comes this Minivan Even the soccer moms are bananas out there!

And reminds me of the time I was cruising down a nice spacious suburban blvd. with hardly anyone around (even google maps has it as a cycling friendly street) and this car comes up and someone says "get off the road". I burst out laughing and facepalmed Aren't suburban people supposed to be happier? Or is it because they were stuck in traffic trying to get home that they're so angry?

There was a study recently that did say BMWs are the Worst! And my brother is a pr*** who happens to have a BMW....
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So I checked when I got home and I know THREE people who live on that street and since she's on the HOA mailing list, I know exactly who it is.
If the mailing list includes email address, perhaps she would appreciate being signed up for the chainlove.com daily emails? Any why not probikekit and wiggle, too?
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Old 04-28-14, 09:18 AM   #12
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If the mailing list includes email address, perhaps she would appreciate being signed up for the chainlove.com daily emails? Any why not probikekit and wiggle, too?
That would be cruel and unusual.
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If the mailing list includes email address, perhaps she would appreciate being signed up for the chainlove.com daily emails? Any why not probikekit and wiggle, too?
....and a daily invite to the BF A&S forum and every cycling safety blog known to man.
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I'm in Whittier, too... and I'm pretty sure I've seen that license plate (no run-ins, probably noticed it while driving). It sounds like she doesn't know that "Give me 3" became law last year. She sounds like she's ignorant of a lot more. Might want to remind her with a flier on her windshield.
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Old 04-28-14, 02:22 PM   #15
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you have to report that to the police. just call it in, the calls are recorded. it's not up to you to confront people. you were lucky it ended the way it did. she (they) is a repeat offender and you never know when someone will snap and escalate. the popo have the right to pay them a visit and have a discussion and explain the law. it's their job to protect, let them. so often they get involved when it's too late.
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Old 04-28-14, 03:52 PM   #16
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It sounds like she doesn't know that "Give me 3" became law last year.
I doubt that something so trivial as an inconvenient law would change the habits of someone like this driver, but for what it's worth, the Three Feet for Safety Act does not go into effect until September 16, 2014.

I'm very careful to avoid "right hooks", but when someone passes you quickly and then suddenly turns right, there's not much you can do but hope it's not your time.

TroganHorse: I'm very glad you and your family are OK!
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What color was the BMW? 2 door / 4 door? 3 series/5 series/7 series? (small/midsize/big?) I'll keep an eye out for it.
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I didn't really pay attention, but it was black and probably a 5 series. The size seemed right for a 5. I want to say 4 door, but I definitely remember that damn custom plate.
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Does the husband drive an Escalade? Or is there more than one family of bike hating cagers in that area?

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I live in South Whittier and ride the Whittier Hills and surrounding areas a lot. Fortunately I've never had an incident with a driver so I guess my time is coming; I'm way over-due based on what I read above! Yikes!

Wiil watch for that custom plate on the BMW 5 series. Thanks for the heads-up!

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Either report it to the cops or . . . . get medieval on her ass.
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Based on Mayday's experience with Whittier's finest, calling the cops didn't do much good.

And apparently I was thinking of getting a gopro back then too! I wish that RideEye guy would get his gig off the ground. His camera is the only one with a battery that will exceed my longer rides.

In a fun little tangent, check out this link about why you should get a dashboard camera for your car, and then watch video #1 - 6 Reasons You Should Own a Dashcam - Reviewed.com Cameras

I've been doing more research than work the last 3 days.

Oh, and no - I've seen that White Escalade a lot, but only last year while walking my son to school. He apparently has kids that go to Murphy Ranch Elementary, although usually his tarted up wife was doing the driving. They seemed to drive south on Santa Gertrudes to get to Janine, so they're up in the hills somewhere... lurking... waiting...
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They're up in the hills somewhere... lurking... waiting...
Okay Loren . . . now you're scaring me!

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Then she went mental and started screaming and cursing, and said her husband has dementia and she can't deal with all this.
If I were that guy, I'd be faking it, too.
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ABSOLUTELY.
This is a serious accident waiting to happen. Please notify the police in the jurisdiction. You may save a cyclist's life.
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