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    To rat or not to rat

    Last Saturday I was riding up in the Santa Monica's on a road frequented by cyclists and occasionally by skateboarders screaming down the road. On this day I was grinding uphill and around a blind curve comes a skateboarder cruising downhill. Then a few more, then partially in my lane, an SUV with the person in the passenger seat training a video cam on the boarders. I swerved over to avoid the SUV, which made no attempt to get back into its proper lane. In fact, the driver honked after he passed me, presumably anoied that I was in his way while traveling in my lane.

    This careless disregard for safety and the audacity to honk at me of course pi**ed me off. I had my Garmin VIRB video cam with me, but it was off at the time.

    After few minutes the SUV is going back uphill with boarders inside. Then few minutes later the boarders came cruising down again and this time I was ready. I switched on my cam and turned around to follow them. I caught the boarders and also the SUV going in the wrong lane. When they stopped I got close enough to get the license of the vehicle and a profile shot of the driver.

    At this time I was mad enough that I was determined that I would forward this video the authorities. Well, now I have some reservations. I have never been one to "rat" on someone. But then again, I have never had such stupid inconsiderate disregard for the safety of others.
    So I have a poll here, and I'd like to get some community input on this.

    It looked like the boarders might have been under 18, and it also looked like the driver of the SUV was old enough to be a parent of one of the boarders. If the authorities decide to act on this, it could mean the driver could be facing contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Not to mention at least one moving violation for driving on the wrong side of the road.

    So waddaya think? Am I a rat for wanting to rat on these guys?

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    If it was a blatant disregard for your safety (twice), then why are you considering this as "ratting"? If that person showed no regard for your well-being, why be worried about theirs? They laid their own fate.

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    Report.

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    Which agency would you be reporting it to? If LAPD, I'd be amazed if they would do anything. If LASD, I think you have a better chance. Ventura SO, probably your best bet of a follow-up.
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    No. You should keep quiet. You wouldn't want to possibly discourage them from doing it again.

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    Rat, baby, rat!

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    post on youtube and publicly disgrace them. I would personally report to authorities but as photo said, they probably will take the report and never do anything more than that. I know several people who work for LAPD and I can tell you that the reality is that they don't want to be bothered. If you call 911 and report gunshots in certain neighborhoods they wont' even respond so your situation won't get much action. Sad but true. Probably the sorriest police department/public service agency in the country
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    I vote definitely yes, no matter what the agency is. Even if they don't follow up, they have this as evidence in case this guy ends up hurting or killing a cyclist the next time he does it. I can think of several ways that having the footage on file could help LEO deal with potential future events.
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    The agency would be the LASD. I'm sending them an email to see if they're interested.
    I will update.
    Thanks for the replies.

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    My ould Irish granny used to say "snitches get stitches and wind up in ditches". To which someone else of my acquaintance. would add "swimming with fishes". Or as we say at my place of employment, "no cheese eaters".

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    Eat that Cheese!!
    Of course the cops won't do anything-probably give you some "chain of evidence" BS
    but RAT AWAY.

    Of course post it online- WITH THE LICENSE PLATE PROMINENTLY FEATURED-and the idiot driver too-
    If they get SMUSHED by a car-this being online might make them less likely to successful sue someone

    POST IT!!
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    100% sure they are filming without a permit. They authorities will take that more seriously then almost killing a cyclist
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    situations like these would seem to be one of the reasons to own/use such a recording device, no?

    i know i would feel like hell if i were in your shoes and didn't report it, only to find out some time later that a cyclist/jogger/ped/other auto driver
    had been seriously injured or worse due to these ***hats or others doing likewise. it's only a matter of time before someone gets seriously injured
    if they keep it up.
    i'd rather be alive wrong than dead right

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
    100% sure they are filming without a permit. They authorities will take that more seriously then almost killing a cyclist
    no joke, unfortunately.
    i'd rather be alive wrong than dead right

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    and, if i may ask, what road was it? was planning on heading up there soon.
    i'd rather be alive wrong than dead right

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    You know, we get the same behavior from boarders on GMR. I've always been a bit surprised that the drivers (who presumably ride their boards down GMR as well) don't take more care with the other non vehicular users of those roads.

    I mean... I rode motorcycles for years, and obviously ride a bike now and I always take extra care around bikes and cycles on the road. I don't get it.

    But yeah, might as well call it in and see what happens. It wouldn't take much for a sheriff to call them and explain how the world works, and might even alter their behavior for the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
    post on youtube and publicly disgrace them. I would personally report to authorities but as photo said, they probably will take the report and never do anything more than that...
    +1
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    Is there a local TV station you can contact? They might love a story like this complete with video, especially if the cops blow you off. "A special report tonight on STFU News. A motorist and a pack of skateboarders decide to turn a public road into a private movie set, nearly killing a cyclist in the process--and the local police don't seem to care...."

    BTW...I doubt they would be issued a permit that would allow them to drive like that on a road open to the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
    BTW...I doubt they would be issued a permit that would allow them to drive like that on a road open to the public.
    Yah, a permitted shoot would have had the road closed with law enforcement presence supporting the shoot. These guys were just idiots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VKech View Post
    Rat, baby, rat!
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    nothing wrong with reporting factually what happened, especially if it can save a life, maybe your own. there's got to be a safer way for the boarders and friend or parent to have fun and tape it too.
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    I say it depends on how bad the behavior is. In the case you described, definitely.
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    Rat 'em out; 'hang 'em high'. There's a safety aspect for both bicycles and vehicles using the road. You don't mention where this was, so you're going to have to find out who has jurisdiction - a city, the county, the state, or the feds (SMM Natl Recreation area), and report it to them. And did it look like they might be doing a professional filming gig? That usually requries permits, which cost $$$$, and knowing how tight govt agencies are for money, the local jurisdiction will probably go after them for any fees they were supposed to pay.
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    Please report it. Even if the police don't act on your report they will have it on record if something happens in the future. The doctor who was convicted of slamming on his brakes in front of cyclists had evidence of previous reports of similar behavior used against him.
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