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    First ammendment? You should be able to say anything in public without being physically assulted
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
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    Charges are also being recommended against the bicyclist, he said, who is suspected of using “offensive words in public, likely to provoke a violent reaction.”
    The cyclist did nothing illegal. The trucker was engaging in a redneck cultural ritual called "rolling coal". This involves illegally removing emission controls from diesel trucks and making loud and aggressive close passes at Prius's and cyclists. The trucker was making threatening actions toward the cyclist, and the cyclist is being charged for using words?!?!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marquhar View Post
    When I first heard about this, I thought he used a GoPro. I was surprised to hear that he was riding with the I-phone in his hand and recording. So he is steering with one hand, and still manages to point and shoot.
    I've raced with him-- he's a very skilled rider. He's also a very nice guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuteCommando View Post
    The cyclist did nothing illegal. The trucker was engaging in a redneck cultural ritual called "rolling coal". This involves illegally removing emission controls from diesel trucks and making loud and aggressive close passes at Prius's and cyclists. The trucker was making threatening actions toward the cyclist, and the cyclist is being charged for using words?!?!?!?

    Sad.
    You don't need to remove the cat to "roll coal". All you need is a diesel engine and to soft pedal so that soot accumulates in the cat, then floor it and it'll blow the soot out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvo View Post
    You don't need to remove the cat to "roll coal". All you need is a diesel engine and to soft pedal so that soot accumulates in the cat, then floor it and it'll blow the soot out.


    Check the guys YouTube username
    As much as you paid for that Beemer [Mercedies, Audi, Escalade], I'm surprised it didn't come equipped with turn signals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
    First ammendment? You should be able to say anything in public without being physically assulted
    There are limits, the most famous being the Supreme Court ruling that you can't yell "fire" in a crowded theatre. And personally, I am disappointed that the cyclist even exchanged angry words with the idiots in that truck. Just let the authorities handle the matter once you have the proof of their idiocy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jed19 View Post
    And personally, I am disappointed that the cyclist even exchanged angry words with the idiots in that truck.
    Did he instigate though? Doesn't appear so. Whatever, I'm sure he was startled, frightened... you have to give a little leeway. And I didn't hear 10% of what I would have been shouting at that jacka$$.

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    Once again free speech just means you can't be arrested for saying something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astrozombie View Post
    Once again free speech just means you can't be arrested for saying something.
    Actually if what you are saying is a threat, there could be a problem. But, say that the 160 lb guy on an 18 lb bike is "threatening" a pair of 200 lb rednecks in a 6000 lb truck. The problem with citing the cyclist for threatening speech in that case is one of credibility.
    As much as you paid for that Beemer [Mercedies, Audi, Escalade], I'm surprised it didn't come equipped with turn signals.

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    much better result than if there was no video
    cycling is like baseball ~ it doesn't take much to make it interesting

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    The sheriff's have enough evidence to get her for littering, $1000. Better justice then if the 3 foot law were in place where the fine is $50. SERIOUSLY?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuteCommando View Post


    Check the guys YouTube username
    This is about as sick as it gets... sheesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    Officials suspect the cyclist made “rude, disparaging comments” before the incident was recorded on his cellphone, Hallock said.
    I suspect the officials are dooshbags, and I have more proof than they have of their suspicions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    Did he instigate though? Doesn't appear so. Whatever, I'm sure he was startled, frightened... you have to give a little leeway. And I didn't hear 10% of what I would have been shouting at that jacka$$.
    The cyclists' F-bomb isn't what the Sheriff is using to cite the cyclist. In another article, the investigating officer says the department "suspects" that he must have said "rude, disparaging comments" that were not captured in the video.

    Of course, this presents all sorts of problems for the DA/Sheriff as well. Probably even moreso than if they just relied on the video evidence.

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    Yes, it's a clear case of "I have solid video evidence of an assault on a public road" vs. "I bet that guy said something"

    I didn't realize this before reading the article you linked but apparently he was riding with a buddy, so that it won't be his word vs two d-bags in a pickup. You'd think they could at least give the littering passenger a citation.

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