Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > > >

Southern California Southern California

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-02-14, 10:49 AM   #1
Elvo
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Orange County, CA
Bikes:
Posts: 3,271
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Cyclist assaulted in Dana Point (Video)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=843004955729054

Probably wasn't a local given the Tx plates. Never had a problem riding down that stretch of PCH with a very wide bike lane.
Elvo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-14, 10:53 AM   #2
bikemig 
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Bikes: A lot of old bikes and a few new ones
Posts: 10,170
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 148 Post(s)
Nice shot of the texas plates. Hopefully this will lead to an arrest soon.
bikemig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-14, 11:36 AM   #3
nesdog
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
Bikes: Domane 4.3
Posts: 2,489
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Wow, I hope this got reported and they pull the DB and his passenger. That is absolutely unforgivable. Would love to hear the follow-up if they get nailed. OP should take this video to every TV station.
__________________
[insert clever quote here]
nesdog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-14, 12:19 PM   #4
Jed19 
Senior Member
 
Jed19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 4,228
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Frigging unbelievable!
__________________
Regards,

Jed
Jed19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-14, 12:44 PM   #5
cdp8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal
Bikes:
Posts: 305
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jed19 View Post
Frigging unbelievable!
Sadly, no, it's not unbelievable. It's all too common. With more cyclists wearing go pros, we are just starting to see how common it is.
cdp8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-14, 12:56 PM   #6
TrojanHorse 
SuperGimp
 
TrojanHorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Whittier, CA
Bikes: Specialized Roubaix
Posts: 11,185
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 87 Post(s)
Too bad there's no image of the actual driver nor passenger.
__________________
"No self-respecting man rides 70 miles and has salad at a pizza joint!" - PhotoJoe
"I like SoCal a lot better than New Jersey" - RubeRad
TrojanHorse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-14, 01:11 PM   #7
Jed19 
Senior Member
 
Jed19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 4,228
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdp8 View Post
Sadly, no, it's not unbelievable. It's all too common. With more cyclists wearing go pros, we are just starting to see how common it is.
Okay, but in almost 27 years or so of riding bicycles on roads, I have never had a projectile thrown at me. I have had motorists intimidate me by driving real close a few times, but no projectile ever thrown.
__________________
Regards,

Jed
Jed19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-14, 03:28 PM   #8
CommuteCommando
Senior Member
 
CommuteCommando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Southern CaliFORNIA.
Bikes: KHS Alite 500, Trek 7.2 FX , Masi Partenza, Masi Fixed Special, Masi Cran Criterium
Posts: 3,010
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Shared.
CommuteCommando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-14, 03:48 PM   #9
Garfield Cat
Senior Member
 
Garfield Cat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Bikes: Cervelo Prodigy
Posts: 6,016
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 39 Post(s)
Projectile: it seems mankind has been doing this for a long time. Nowadays its called a missile, or a type of gasoline soaked rag in a bottle. Gatorade is new. Not much to that.
Garfield Cat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-14, 04:15 PM   #10
prathmann
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Bay Area, Calif.
Bikes:
Posts: 6,093
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 82 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
Too bad there's no image of the actual driver nor passenger.
The passenger (who tossed the Gatorade) is seen pretty clearly toward the end of the video - leaning out the window and looking back at the cyclist.
prathmann is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-14, 04:23 PM   #11
TrojanHorse 
SuperGimp
 
TrojanHorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Whittier, CA
Bikes: Specialized Roubaix
Posts: 11,185
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 87 Post(s)
Ah, you're right.

That's a pretty excellent license plate shot too and kudos to the cyclist for not swearing up a storm and sounding like part of the problem.
__________________
"No self-respecting man rides 70 miles and has salad at a pizza joint!" - PhotoJoe
"I like SoCal a lot better than New Jersey" - RubeRad
TrojanHorse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-14, 04:34 PM   #12
prathmann
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Bay Area, Calif.
Bikes:
Posts: 6,093
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 82 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
Nice shot of the texas plates. Hopefully this will lead to an arrest soon.
I think it's a Virginia plate and the "TX" is just part of the license. The form of the plate is the same as this image of a Virginia truck license plate:
http://www.plateshack.com/y2k/Virgin...2003truckp.jpg
prathmann is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-14, 08:43 PM   #13
CommuteCommando
Senior Member
 
CommuteCommando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Southern CaliFORNIA.
Bikes: KHS Alite 500, Trek 7.2 FX , Masi Partenza, Masi Fixed Special, Masi Cran Criterium
Posts: 3,010
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
Ah, you're right.

That's a pretty excellent license plate shot too and kudos to the cyclist for not swearing up a storm and sounding like part of the problem.
I have had two cameras. A cheap Vivitar and a Contour. Neither of the were good at getting plates. That was a very lucky shot. The problem is the emphasis on "Action shots" favors high frame rate. A good "security cam" would have a much lower frame rate, slow as a high end DSLR. This will enable still camera-like resolution, which is really what is needed in situations like this.
Quote:
Originally Posted by prathmann View Post
I think it's a Virginia plate and the "TX" is just part of the license. The form of the plate is the same as this image of a Virginia truck license plate:
http://www.plateshack.com/y2k/Virgin...2003truckp.jpg
Good catch.

Last edited by CommuteCommando; 06-02-14 at 08:52 PM.
CommuteCommando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-14, 10:50 PM   #14
marquhar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: north Orange County,California
Bikes: 2008 Motobecane Immortal Force
Posts: 176
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
I've been attacked with `projectiles` and close approach twice on PCH.

In March 2008, in Sunset Beach (now HB), from a Mazda SUV, a rear passenger partially rolled down his window and shot me from behind (maybe 15 ft away) with a paintball CO2-G-U-N. The pain and impact (middle of my back) was huge, but I stayed up. I found out later that they might have been traveling to a PB Tourney at the HB pier.

In August 2010 in HB (PCH and Brookhurst) a Range Rover with 3 college age guys crept into the bike lane and tried to get me at arms length and strike me with a sandel (shoe). I looked back in time to dodge them - as they drove by I could hear the passenger sigh with disapointment that they couldn't catch me sleeping or unaware.

Last edited by marquhar; 06-02-14 at 10:55 PM.
marquhar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-14, 12:03 AM   #15
Elvo
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Orange County, CA
Bikes:
Posts: 3,271
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
I've had a glass bottle thrown at me on PCH in Huntington beach by a bunch of high schoolers in a truck.
Elvo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-14, 07:16 AM   #16
CommuteCommando
Senior Member
 
CommuteCommando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Southern CaliFORNIA.
Bikes: KHS Alite 500, Trek 7.2 FX , Masi Partenza, Masi Fixed Special, Masi Cran Criterium
Posts: 3,010
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
My most frequent run ins seem to be Middle aged women in Beemers, Mercedes, and Rovers in Laguna Niguel. These tend to be more of the "Of course I saw that silly man on the bike I just passed then turned right in front of. Why is a grown man on a bike, and why is he not on the sidewalk riding against traffic?" variety. The Sunset beach variety seems to involve alcohol more often than not. Real scary.

Any updates on the identities of these Ginny goons?
CommuteCommando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-14, 08:50 AM   #17
furiousferret
Senior Member
 
furiousferret's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Redlands, CA
Bikes:
Posts: 4,489
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 31 Post(s)
I have yet to be assaulted on a bike but when I used to run the same BMW used to always throw stuff at me, or try to hit me when I was running on the road. It was rare enough I didn't expect it, but happened about 6 times over a 3 year period.
furiousferret is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-14, 10:33 AM   #18
Jed19 
Senior Member
 
Jed19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 4,228
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
This story was on the 11 PM Channel 2 News last night. It said the Sheriff/cops are investigating for assault. It is only a matter of time before these two idiots are collared by the law.
__________________
Regards,

Jed
Jed19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-14, 11:35 PM   #19
Rumpled
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 904
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I know the manager of the team the cyclist rides for. (Actually, I think this rider is involved with running the team as well; I've never met him)
Apparently he has found a Facebook pic of the girl in the truck.
Hopefully, some charges come from this.
Rumpled is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-14, 10:32 AM   #20
Bendopolo
Bendo
 
Bendopolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Anaheim
Bikes: 1986 Cannondale Road..Firestone Beach Cruiser 2009 Cannondale Caffeine 29er SS Cannondale M300 SS
Posts: 129
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Nothing will happen. I had a Texas RV crash the entire side of my car at Angel Stadium, on camera. Nothing done about it because it was an out of state vehicle. Lets all go to Texas and wage war....
Bendopolo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-14, 06:59 PM   #21
rms13
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Bikes:
Posts: 6,121
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 69 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by CommuteCommando View Post
My most frequent run ins seem to be Middle aged women in Beemers, Mercedes, and Rovers in Laguna Niguel. These tend to be more of the "Of course I saw that silly man on the bike I just passed then turned right in front of. Why is a grown man on a bike, and why is he not on the sidewalk riding against traffic?" variety. The Sunset beach variety seems to involve alcohol more often than not. Real scary.

Any updates on the identities of these Ginny goons?
For me it's Armenians in Mercedes. They can't imagine a cylclist won't pull over so they can continue to do 70 mph in a 30 mph zone. Of course none of them have plates on their cars so the gopro is a moot point for me
rms13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-14, 09:41 PM   #22
CommuteCommando
Senior Member
 
CommuteCommando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Southern CaliFORNIA.
Bikes: KHS Alite 500, Trek 7.2 FX , Masi Partenza, Masi Fixed Special, Masi Cran Criterium
Posts: 3,010
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
For me it's Armenians in Mercedes. They can't imagine a cylclist won't pull over so they can continue to do 70 mph in a 30 mph zone. Of course none of them have plates on their cars so the gopro is a moot point for me
Yeah, I used to live in the East Valley. It isn't racist to say that. Simply demographics. In S. Orange county they're largely Asian.
CommuteCommando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-14, 01:00 PM   #23
CB HI
Cycle Year Round
 
CB HI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Honolulu, HI
Bikes:
Posts: 11,963
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 196 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdp8 View Post
Sadly, no, it's not unbelievable. It's all too common. With more cyclists wearing go pros, we are just starting to see how common it is.
Many in BF do not believe this stuff happens because where they ride, it has never happened to them, or worse, they blame the cyclist, because such things have never happened to them.
__________________
Land of the Free, Because of the Brave.
CB HI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-14, 02:57 PM   #24
marquhar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: north Orange County,California
Bikes: 2008 Motobecane Immortal Force
Posts: 176
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
OC Sheriff is trying to be all things to all people - typical political manuevering.
Cyclist is suspected of using “offensive words in public, likely to provoke a violent reaction.”

Gatorade bottle thrown at cyclist from truck could result in charges - The Orange County Register

When I first heard about this, I thought he used a GoPro. I was surprised to hear that he was riding with the I-phone in his hand and recording. So he is steering with one hand, and still manages to point and shoot.
marquhar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-14, 06:36 PM   #25
TrojanHorse 
SuperGimp
 
TrojanHorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Whittier, CA
Bikes: Specialized Roubaix
Posts: 11,185
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 87 Post(s)
Whaddaheck?

Charges are also being recommended against the bicyclist, he said, who is suspected of using “offensive words in public, likely to provoke a violent reaction.” Officials suspect the cyclist made “rude, disparaging comments” before the incident was recorded on his cellphone, Hallock said.

So cyclist has a video of the actual assault and they may not press charges but they may vs the cyclists because they're assuming he started it?

Any of you other riders intentionally start altercations with a car that's behind you so that you can get run over?

What's the charge anyway, saying "neener, neener"?
__________________
"No self-respecting man rides 70 miles and has salad at a pizza joint!" - PhotoJoe
"I like SoCal a lot better than New Jersey" - RubeRad
TrojanHorse is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:07 PM.