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    pan y agua merlinextraligh's Avatar
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    Yet another Calfee build thread

    Frame Model; Dragonfly Tandem
    Frame Size; Large/Small
    Frame Options; 135mm, dual rim brake but add rear disk dropout/SS cable guide, complete build, Di2, extra stiffness, 28c clearance, 44mm HT (tapered fork) (team weight 340lbs)
    Fork; ENVE Tapered Rim Brake (367 A-C)
    Finish; Nude frame/fork, painted logos - all white, stock placement, + Ti HT badge
    Est. Ready to Assemble; 5/13/2015

    Make Model Size/Other Finish
    R/D Shimano Dura Ace Di2 9070 + K-Edge long cage retrofit Black
    F/D Shimano Dura Ace 9070 Di2 35mm N/A
    Clamp & Chain Watcher K-Edge Calfee SL 35mm, Red
    Headset King InSet 7 1 1/8"-1.5" tapered, Red
    Eccentric Bushnell Featherweight
    Cranks Lightning Cycles Tandem Custom; 175/172.5mm, 110 bcd drive/timing, no logos Tandem Custom; 175/172.5mm, 130 bcd drive/timing, no logos No logos
    Chainring Other Lightning Cycles/Praxis 110bcd spyder w/rings (Praxis 36/52, installed)
    BB Lightning Cycles 68mm English, threaded N/A N/A
    Tandem Drive Gates 69t CDX 69t CDX N/A
    Front Brake Shimano Dura Ace 9070 Di2 rim brake N/A
    Rear Brake Shimano Dura Ace 9070 Di2 rim brake N/A
    Rotors N/A N/A N/A N/A
    Shifters Shimano Dura Ace 9070 Di2 N/A N/A
    Cassette Shimano 11 speed 11 thru 25 N/A
    Chain Shimano Dura Ace 9070 Di2 11spd N/A
    Captain Bar ENVE Road Standard (not compact) 31.8mm, 44cm White logos
    Captain Aero Extensions ENVE Road Bar Clip-On Extensions N/A White logos
    Captain Aero Bar Shifters Shimano R671 Di2 TT shifters N/A N/A
    Captain Stem ENVE Road 31.8mm, 11cm, -6 degree White logos
    Stoker Bar Profile T2 Wing 31.8mm, 44cm N/A
    Stoker Levers N/A N/A N/A N/A
    Stoker Stem N/A N/A N/A N/A
    Tires Continental GP4000S ii 700x25c Black
    Rim Strips Wheelbuilder N/A N/A N/A
    Front Hub DT Swiss 240S Front Hub 28h QR 240S Front Hub 28h QR Black
    Front Rim ENVE Classic 65, carbon, clincher, 28h Classic 65, carbon, clincher, 28h White logos
    Front Spokes DT Swiss Aerolite 28h Black
    Rear Hub DT Swiss 240S Rear Hub 28h 135mm QR Center Lock Disc 240S Rear Hub 28h 135mm QR Center Lock Disc Black
    Rear Rim ENVE Classic 65, carbon, clincher, 28h Classic 65, carbon, clincher, 28h White logos
    Rear Spokes DT Swiss Aerolite 28h Black
    QR Skewers N/A N/A N/A N/A
    Captain Seatpost ENVE 27.2, zero offset 27.2, zero offset White logos
    Captain Saddle N/A, customer supplied N/A N/A N/A
    Stoker Seatpost ENVE (Di2 battery inside) 27.2, zero offset 27.2, zero offset White logos
    Stoker Saddle N/A, customer supplied N/A N/A N/A
    Stoker Seat Collar N/A N/A N/A N/A
    Tape Lizard Skin DSP 2.5mm Dual color; red/black Red/Black (dual color)
    Captain Pedals N/A, customer supplied N/A N/A N/A
    Stoker Pedals N/A, customer supplied N/A N/A N/A
    Di2 Components Shimano required internal 7 port Junction A N/A N/A
    Di2 Computer N/A N/A N/A N/A
    Di2 Wireless Transmitter Shimano D-Fly N/A N/A
    Garmin Mount ENVE Garmin mount (new) N/A N/A
    Cable Housing Jagwire Compressionless N/A Black
    Bottle Cages ENVE Bottle cage (new) (qty. 4) N/A N/A
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    Decided to go with a mid compact setup when I looked at a gear chart and saw that 52/36 with an 11-25 covers a nice range, with little duplication, and one nice cross over point. (if we decide we need a bigger gear for downhill downwind sections of TTs, we can switch out a 130bcd spider later).

    For the mountains we can put on a 34 chainring, and an 11-36 and have plent of low gear.
    Decided on the K-Force long cage to give us that flexibility, with little to no reported degregation in shifting.

    Dura Ace RD is an extravagance. It saves about 70 grams. But its mostly vanity. We're spending all this money, and I'd prefer a full DA group.

    Went with ENVE 65 classics, 1) on Ritterviews reccomendation of ENVE, 2) the strength advantage of molded spoke holes, 3) the strength the deep sectioned rims give.

    Doing Aercomp spokes at the recommendation of many forum members here. We've broken Sapim bladed spokes on our Zipp wheels (although I think that is due to the accute spoke angle with 808's and 145 mm spacing.) So we wanted the more robust spokes and a stiffer wheel. Went with 28 spokes front and back to add stiffness. (opposed to the spec of 24/28)
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    Sounds like a fast bike!

    Our build is in progress as well. We are going with a heavier coupled tetra travel bike, but sometimes would also like a bullet like this too...

    My suggestion of a nude frame was rejected. Choosing the paint is actually the hardest choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swiz View Post
    Sounds like a fast bike!



    My suggestion of a nude frame was rejected. Choosing the paint is actually the hardest choice.
    Did you tell your stoker how much paint costs? $1200 saved, getting the bike 6 weeks sooner, and 280 grams saved sold us.

    Some of the paint schemes are petty cool though.
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    She didn't like the nude, so the custom paint was "only" the delta from basic paint :-). I got a few free passes on component upgrades that added to the existing sticker shock. And somewhere in the process, I realized the thing is crazy expensive anyway, it is really more important to build the bike we want for our intended use more than worrying about the exact cost. For her $600 of paint was a no brainer as compared to some of the component upgrades...

    We didn't discuss painting time with Calfee, it sounded more in the 2-3 week range. Our first frame had a mistake, I noticed as it went into paint. Hopefully frame #2 is ready for paint any day now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    and 280 grams saved sold us.
    I was under the impression tandem painting amounted to a lot more weight in the order of 1.5lbs even for Calfee's transparent colors. Where did you get that number?

    As far as travel and finish durability, we are extremely happy with the nude vs paint which we had before. The nude is far easier to care for and no paint scratches to fuss over. There is still the stick on decals that can be messed up when there is no clear coat over them, which is another reason we opted to paint them on this time around.

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    I picked that figure up from a spreadsheet Ritterview had on weight weenies, iirc.

    I've heard it's more, like you say. But the people at Calfee told me it was not a very big difference, so I went with the lower number in my post.
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    Wow, Can't wait to see the pictures when you are done.

    Some specs, I would be glad to copy.

    If you don't mind me asking, how much did it cost?

    Obviously you could afford the dream tandem, congrats!!!

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    If only it was a Paketa

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    Merlin
    Are you using 142x12 thru axle or QR as your build says? It seems that Calfee is building most of the recent frames with rear thru axles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akexpress View Post
    Merlin
    Are you using 142x12 thru axle or QR as your build says? It seems that Calfee is building most of the recent frames with rear thru axles.
    It is going to be 135mm QR. We're using rim brakes, and decided we didn't the thru axle.
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    So our frame is built. just a matter of building up the bike and shipping it.



    Even though , we're going with Rim brakes, we had the frame built to be able to take a rear disc for future flexibility. When I decided on this, I didn't realize that it would mean an extra brace between the left chain and seat stay. I don't particularly care for that, mostly for aesthetic reasons ( and less so aero and weight) but it's not a big deal, should make things a bit stiffer, and preserve the flexibility to switch to a disc.
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