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    Good sources for used tandems? (SF Bay Area, CA or online)

    Hello folks,

    I just joined and this looks like a great forum. I have rented a tandem bike with my partner for the last two weekends and we have had a blast. We are giving serious thought to buying one.

    How do I get started? The supply of used tandems seems very limited, even in the bicycling mecca of the SF Bay Area (I've seen craigslist, http://www.tandemmag.com/classified/, and the Tandem Club of America). There is a shop that appears to specialize in tandems on the Peninsula (Bicycle Outfitter) that encourages test rides, so that might be my first stop. I do not know what size bike I need for a roadie, much less a tandem. I am 5'9" and my stoker is 5'4" Blazing Saddles in SF rents tandems (the picture shows a Burley) so that may be a good start, although it looks like an mtb and I would prefer a roadie.

    Transportation looks like a problem, as well. I think I would need a rack to transport (I have a small car that will fit one bike, but definitely not a tandem). The cost appears fairly nasty, at least $500-600 or so, which is especially difficult because I don't know how long I will keep my current vehicle.

    I would appreciate any pointers on how to get into the sport!

    Thanks!

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    I have been looking myself for a tandem for a couple of months, craigslist, ebay, lbs etc. the used market does not seem very attractive at all, most are over-priced.

    Today, I am leaning towards a brand new Burley Rumba or Tamburello. Burley are having a 20% end of year sale, I have also seen some 03-04 models (new) at good prices. These can be cheaper than most used ones!

    I am finding overall the used offers overpriced. Why buying a five or ten year olf tandem only 20% cheaper than a new one (+ new can have higher component specs)? No warranty (ok maybe frame with mfr), no component swap option, no free tune-ups, limited size choice,..

    As for transport, I have seen them carried on trunk racks without any problem, that is IMO the most cost effective option.

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    Keep trying craigslist, but be patient. You'll need a bit of luck, but it may take a couple of months. You'll see $1,000+/- Trek/'dale/Burleys/Santanas (of various vintages) turn up for sure.

    Don't rely on the Blazing Saddles Web site to know what they have available for you... better call ahead if you want to be sure to get something of nice quality. Also, I recently saw a shiny, light-blue Burley parked out front of Bay City Bike Rentals on Columbus just a few blocks SE of Beach.

    There's hundreds and hundreds of miles of great road cycling all over the bay area, much of it accessible from BART. (Yup, you can take a tandem on BART!) So, unless it's very difficult to ride to/from your home, there are tons of great rides you can do before investing in a car rack.

    Happy shopping!
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    maybe check this site they have a small "market place"

    i also found a nice Santana Sovereign but looks like is a little to big for your requirements
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    i just found this on Craigslist a minute ago, maybe will fit your needs,,,

    Burley tandem bike - $850
    Reply to: see below
    Date: 2005-09-20, 6:54PM PDT


    Burley 21 speed tandem
    19 main frame, 17 stoker, Shamano front and rear derailer and rear brakes, disc brake in front, Rock Shock front fork, touring bags and lots of extras, tires, rims, etc. $850 or best offer

    Telephone: (415) 488-9618
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    I think I just found exactlly what you need,,,on the best site ever Craigslist .....here is the ADD plus many many Pictures

    and the overall description
    Santana Arriva S tandem excellent condition - $1500 (east palo alto)
    Reply to: anon-99229845@craigslist.org
    Date: 2005-09-22, 8:54AM PDT


    For sale is a Santana Arriva S tandem. It is in excellent condition. It is made of colombus tubing (steel). It is an older model but it is in great mechanical condition and also looks great. It has a one inch threaded steerer with 700c wheels. The captain's cockpit measures: top tube center to center is 56 cm(22 inches), seat tube 55cm center to center(21 3/4 inches)and 61cm center to top.Handle bar is 45cm outside with 110 profile quill stem. Stoker's seat tube is 54cm center to center and top tube is 65cm center to center. Handlebar is 46 cm outside with 100mm stem. Drivetrain is 3x6. Suntour rear derailleur, downtube shifters and suntour hubs. Sugino GP130 tandem cranks front and rear 170mm length. Brakes have been upgraded to Avid single digit 7 v-brakes with proper brake levers so you don't have to use a modulater. Has continental 700x28 ultra tires. Please e-mail any question. Price negotiable.
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    Thanks for the link, I will send an email, although it does look a bit big. Do you think this would be better than the brand new Raleigh for $1000 (or maybe even a bit less)? I think I want a road bike, so this may be the way to go versus the hybrid-type Raleigh. The Arriva must be pretty ancient if it has 3x6 gearing though, and I wonder if it is even indexed. They haven't had that few sprockets (at least in mtb) for what, 15-20 years?

    I am going to take a visit this weekend to Bicycle Outfitters to test ride some tandems with my stoker and get some idea for what we are looking at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROJA
    Thanks for the link, I will send an email, although it does look a bit big. Do you think this would be better than the brand new Raleigh for $1000 (or maybe even a bit less)? I think I want a road bike, so this may be the way to go versus the hybrid-type Raleigh. The Arriva must be pretty ancient if it has 3x6 gearing though, and I wonder if it is even indexed. They haven't had that few sprockets (at least in mtb) for what, 15-20 years?
    Well I post about the raleigh because i was really impress with the overall quality of the manufacturing and componentry, specially for that price is a ExTreMllY good deal.

    about road/mountain tandems I can not really tell you since I'm extremlly parcial to mountain bikes since riding on the road bores me to S^^T, but i can tell you the 26' wheels are far stronger with a much widder rim selection (but not that many street oriented choices), sincerlly i will go for the Raleigh do to the value and technology, in fact i'm sure you can use it for a year or two and sell it for the same if not even more money..

    Aluminum/Steel,,i much rather have a nice old school steel frame (1 1/8" not ONE Inch like the santana) than alauminum for my tandem specially for a mountain tandem were the pounding can get a little to intense.

    gears,,,i run 8 speeds in all my bikes, since I think they are far more reliable, less complicated and long lasting and not really necesary, is just no need for narrower gaps on the gear progression since in the dirt the gear changes are ussually pretty abrupt and sutten, the tandem gears on the other side need to like the gears on a 18wheeler truck when you need to reach speed in very small increments to keep the momentum going, for that reason my ibis is the only bike out of 13 i have that feature a 9 speed cogset

    I hope this helps and does not confuse you even more..

    in short for a first Tandem I think the Raleigh is a exelent bike that can serve you very well for a long time and/or become a stepping stone into a much nicer but Four times as expesive machine.

    i was just trying to give you choices with the santana so you can compare what is available (currentlly) on the market place

    I am going to take a visit this weekend to Bicycle Outfitters to test ride some tandems with my stoker and get some idea for what we are looking at.
    Just remenber this guys are going to close the university shop really soon.
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    How about this one? http://www.craigslist.org/sby/bik/99098980.html The captain was 5'10" and the stoker 5'6" so fairly close (we are 5'9" and 5'4"). It is way down in Campbell (1.5 hours or so each way), but do you think that is a sweet ride, or should I look mid-late 90's?

    Thanks

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    Bud's Bicycles in Clairmont. It's SoCal but they are a good source for used Santana's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROJA
    How about this one? http://www.craigslist.org/sby/bik/99098980.html The captain was 5'10" and the stoker 5'6" so fairly close (we are 5'9" and 5'4"). It is way down in Campbell (1.5 hours or so each way), but do you think that is a sweet ride, or should I look mid-late 90's?

    Thanks
    wow that sound pretty good....

    i think you need to take a look at it...i saw it last night but i was under the impression the bike was to big for you guys, so i did not post it
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    you see Craigslist is the bomb look at this cannondale Road tandem I just found..

    CANNONDALE TANDEM RT-2000 - $1500 (lafayette / orinda / moraga)
    Reply to: anon-99361690@craigslist.org
    Date: 2005-09-22, 6:22PM PDT


    If you are looking for a tandem for the price of new one this is your bike. It has less than 200 miles and shows no ware of any kind. It looks and rides absolutely new. Price is firm Cash only.
    check the link on the top for some pictures.
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