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    The delima- kid on the way.. keep tandeming?

    As alot of you know I recieved shipment on a Burley Rivazza back in July and love it. My wife loves it too. Have not posted out here in a bit because have not been riding due to wifes neck injuries (pulled muscles) and now she is pregnant.

    We both absolutly love the bike and are torn on what to do. We want to keep the bike but don't fore see the abilty to ride it very much. We do not have any family near by to watch the kid while we ride.

    Was thinking of selling it but it breaks my heart to do that. It also breaks my heart to think the the the bike may just be an oversized dust collector. Don't get me wrong we are VERY excited about a kid on the way but we both do love the bike.

    I also thought about keeping the bike and riding later on in life as we get older and the kid can be left alone for an hour or two. My only issues here are maintnenace. Bikes are like computers in the fact that parts get obsolete on them and they become harder to service with original parts. I am not one of these people who has to have the "bling bling" lastest gizmo on my ride either. I am more of a $$ = performance type or rider, or best bang for the buck.

    So anybody else have (or had) the same issues or know somebody in a similar situation? What did you all do?

    Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!

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    Most of the wear items on a new bike are gona be available for a long time to come, if you have the space to store it it'll always be there for when you do want to get back on. Worse that happens is every few years you replace the tires or have the hubs repacked if it sits too long, just becasuse it becomes obsolete won't keep it from working as well as the day you bought it.

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    Keep the tandem, you'll end up using it when you have a baby sitter or when the kid's old enough to join you!
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    Perhaps you've read some of the articles on tandems & kids but, if not, here are some links to several that may be of interest:

    http://www.thetandemlink.com/Learnin...anchor10417632

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    Get a trailer! Our kids both started when they can sit up on their own, about 6 months. At first shorter rides, but then you can slowly increase. Our Burley D'Lite with stroller attachmant was one of the best purchases we've made. We take it to theme parks, vacation, biking, light and easy to haul, and works great. Our son just turned 3 and will hopefully he'll be on a Piccolo next Spring. So after about 6 years of solid use I'll likely sell our Burley. The resale is so good, I bet it will work out to about $20 a year - not bad. My wife and I ride our tandem almost every Tuesday with our son. Usually about 10 - 25 miles, he does great, and super training, the tandem is so much faster when we take it for trips without the trailer.

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    We've sold the trailer. The first kid is 12 and stoker on one tandem. The second at 6 has moved into stoker with a kid adaptor thing.

    Keep the tandem and make it work for you.

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    MTBcyclist, I'd say either keep it or trade it for a Bike friday or some other adult/kid friendly tandem. My sister rides with her daughter on their friday that she bought when her daughter was 3 years old and now she's going to be 5 this december and they ride at tandem rallies and other rides in the area. At first, yeah it'll be hard with the new baby, but eventually and in the not so distant future, I bet you'll be able to get back to riding, maybe even get a triple or a trailer for the tandem....Check into it, it's a great thing to pass along cycling to a youngster!!


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    Dood, they make those tag alongs for tandems. I've seen a family of 2 parents and two kids on ONE tandem bike. You can make it work.

    I vote for calling Burley and explaining your situation. Then see what kind of modifications they can make for you. In the beginning, it'll either be a trailer or child's seat, but as the kid grows, then you can get the tag alongs.

    You can doooooo itttttttt! Tony Little says so!

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    We waited until our son was 8 weeks old before strapping the whole car seat into a trailer and taking him with us. While I'm somewhat opposed to baby seats, you could certainly mount one on the back, until your kid is big enough to use the tag-along. And I'm sure that if nothing else, you'll be able to find a competent babysitter so you can take off for a few hours.

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    Yiiipes! Pregnant?!
    Hate to tell ya folks, but that happens all the time . . . and it's not the end of cycling!
    Have seen a woman riding a 50 miler on a single bike and only 7 months pregnant. Said she'd have to stop riding soon as her belly was really getting in the way.
    Consult with doctor to see what he/she recommends.
    After the baby? A trailer! After the trailer? A tag-a-long bike. After the tag-a-long? Kiddy crankset on tandem and wifey can ride her single (even she is pregnant again).
    More kids? Well you get the idea . . .
    Pedal on!
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    I'm not saying anything different from all of the above. My cycling is not as much as it used to be but I can say it is much better having kids! Each kid gets his inaugural ride (well, #3 did not) when they are about a month old, in a sling on my road bike. Just up and down the street, but my wife gets a picture of it. My road bike has a trailer permanently attached to it. I am a stronger rider now for it, and pretty much don't recognize how quick and maneuverable my road bike is on the few occasions I take the trailer off.

    I honestly don't understand why you are getting rid of the tandem. It has taken me 10 years to get my wife excited about tandeming. She has finally seen how much fun the kids and I have on the few tours we do each year. She finally got on a decent tandem and experienced the nuiance of the different models. Now, we are working to save up for our first tandem. I wish we had it sooner. We really could use a triplet or a quad at this point, but we are thinking of opting for maybe 2 tandems to feed the brood.

    Keep the tandem if you both love cycling. The trailers are the best. If your kids are like mine, they will be screaming to get in and go for a ride....literally. As toddlers, they will try to climb in the trailer when you are going to the car to take them somewhere. Our oldest just got off his training wheels and is now selecting where we will ride. I am looking forward to having the choice of stokers between my oldest and my wife. Fortunately for my wife and me, we are close enough in height that either of us will be able to captain or stoke. I am not a fan of tagalongs, but I may have to do that as the others grow.

    At least keep the bike for one season after the birth. Look into the local club family rides. You will not regret it.

    Congrats on the baby. Here's to its health.

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    Thanks for all the encouragement. I am fortunate in the fact that my wife loves the tandem. She actually gets more emotional about selling the bike then I do, probably because she is a cycling newbie and does not have any other bikes. (I have two mtb bikes and two road bikes all singles) I am thinking I may try and pick up a burely trailer off of EBay. Would like to go used cause money will be tight starting out.

    Few questions about trailering a little tike behind a tandem.

    1. Does it really kill your average speed? Wife and I like to go fast. I realize the trailer will be a hill killer!

    2. How about traffic and the trailer. Little leary about taking a 6 month old in traffic. Honstly I won't mind but I am afraid the wife might.

    3. How long of a ride do you take with the tike in the trailer before they want out?

    Any other advice?

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    Hi,

    Early on we did mostly rail/trails and very low traffic routes. Maybe 15 minutes - 30 minutes around the neighborhood. It also is an excellent stroller, so the kids can get use to it. It does impact you speed but not as much as a single. You can still go plenty fast downhill, but feel the trailer going up. You need just a little extra for rolling hills.

    We use the flag and it sticks up about 6' so I think that helps, plue the trailer is yellow, so between the large bike (tandem), flag, and trailer, there is a lot more to see then a single bike. We try as always to stay away from heavy traffic.

    We can easily ride 1 - 2 hrs with our son, maybe longer with decent breaks. Our daughter was a different story as she would get bored more quickly. Our son will actually fall asleep in the trailer, so that is nice. Often he is saying his ABC's or singing Bingo to the point of driving you nuts, but often he just eats a snack and plays with his toys.

    I would avoid a cheap trailer and get a Burley, there are tons on ebay now. We'll likely sell ours in the Spring, after we are sure he is ready for the tag-a-long, but it's well worn. The Burley trailer folds nice, is light weight, makes great strollers for 2 kids, plus it's very well made.

    John

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    Dumb question but do you helmet the little tikes? Figured you would not need to as they have seatbelts on and if the trailer flips over (which sounds impossible) the roll cage type design would protect them?

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    We do, just figure it's best to start young. I guess we have about 8 helmets between the kids already. Heads grow fast at a young age.

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    We do, just figure it's best to start young. I guess we have about 8 helmets between the kids already. Heads grow fast at a young age.

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    The Burley trailer will be your ticket out of the house. It lulls them to sleep!

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    Sweet picture! Got a good laugh out of that one. I also like your Santa Cruz superlight. 8-)

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    Thanks. I love my Blur (it does look like a Superlight in that photo).The Burley trailer is one of those purchases you get right. Although it seemed expensive at the time, it gives you lots of piece of mind, performs better than you expect, and enables you to have priceless memories. All three of my kids really liked riding in it. Congratulations to you two. There are many great moments to look forward to.

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    Check with your pediatrician, but I don't think you should be riding your child in anything until one year. Before that, their little heads on their little necks get shaken around too much. I think you'll find the same advice on the kid's helmet documentation. I know, its a bummer. But hey, its only about 1000 diapers away.

    At least in my state, the law is that all kids have to have helmets. Hmm. Or at least that's how we interpreted it. Anyway, check your local laws.

    Most helmets now have that little knobby thing in the back. This prevents a child from leaning back in older trailers. So, when you get a trailer, get one that has a recessed space in the back.

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    Some helmet the kids some do not. We generally do not because the trailer is pretty good protection and it is alot more comfortable for them on the extended rides. However if the newer trailers have recesses for the helmets that would be a definite plus.

    We had Burley but it did not fit our needs. We had storage issues so we had to keep it outside in a semi exposed area. The fabric on the Burley did not last the season with the sun exposure. Replacing the fabric was going to cost us almost as much as a new trailer. Also, I found that I was able to cause the trailer to flip. I was giving our oldest a ride and we were doing a slow role serpentine becuase he liked the feel of it. A couple turns into it and the trailer wheels were lifting off the ground.

    Our next purchase for a trailer was a Cycletote (www.cycletote.com). We really like this trailer. Superstrong fabric, real aluminum 27" wheels, a superior seat post hitch, lower center of gravity with canted wheels. We did not get the option, but they have a spring activated brake. If you know you are going to be on hills or want to go fast with heavier loads (2 kids or touring), this is your best option. It is pricey with the brake option but well worth the peace of mind ~$700 I think. The trailer was more than the Burley but I am far happier with it. We will be on our second set of tires soon.

    I do wish our trailer had reclining seats (I think the Trek model had this).

    1. Yes your speed will go down, but you really won't feel safe going at paceline speeds as frequently. If you really want to go fast, get a baby sitter. Pulling 2, on northeast rolling terrain, I think we average @13-16. Where I am more of a 19-22 without the trailer.

    2. We avoid traffic if possible, generally out for scenic rides to get to parks or site seeing. However, I can tell you it is great to take the trailer to very large events because everyone is in a traffic jam to park and then have to walk. We just kind of zip through all that.

    3. Mine hardly ever want out, but we take breaks about every hour on longer rides. We bring pillows and let them pick one small toy (matchbox car or whatever). We have done 8 hour rides with no whining and plenty of breaks.

    Enjoy.

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    Beware! I started loading my son, baby seat and all, on the back of our tandem when he was less than six months old. He laughed, and loved it, then went to sleep. In fact, it was about the only time he didn't cry! Here's the bad part. He started racing BMX at four like he was born to it, then motorcycles and flying through the air on the biggest jumps they could create, then off-road racing. It's the curse of speed at an early age But I wouldn't change anything and neither would he. Keep the bike and I bet it will help to create a bond between you and your children (yes there will be more) unlike any other.

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    As others have said--Get a Burley!! The extra expense is worth the quality, and the stroller attachment means you just have to buy one peice of equipment rather than two.

    My wife rode up to her eighth month during her first pregnancy. Two months after delivery, we were riding again with baby's car seat strapped in the Burley. A three-month recess from the tandem seemed long, but we're so glad we kept it and are riding again.

    Food consumption unit #2 is on the way, so we'll soon have another three-month recess. I think our now-toddler Joshua will still fit in the trailer with carseat and new sister.

    Get a Burley and keep the tandem!!!

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    Love to hear the stories. The car seat in the trailer is a GREAT idea. May have to do that so we can start riding earlier. If we wait until the kids a year old my tandem is going to get lonley next summer as the kid comes in early June.

    Definilty going to get a Burly. Have been watching ebay. Will most likely pick one up in the spring late summer.

    Thanks guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbcyclist
    Thanks for all the encouragement. I am fortunate in the fact that my wife loves the tandem. She actually gets more emotional about selling the bike then I do, probably because she is a cycling newbie and does not have any other bikes. (I have two mtb bikes and two road bikes all singles) I am thinking I may try and pick up a burely trailer off of EBay. Would like to go used cause money will be tight starting out.

    Few questions about trailering a little tike behind a tandem.

    1. Does it really kill your average speed? Wife and I like to go fast. I realize the trailer will be a hill killer!

    2. How about traffic and the trailer. Little leary about taking a 6 month old in traffic. Honstly I won't mind but I am afraid the wife might.

    3. How long of a ride do you take with the tike in the trailer before they want out?

    Any other advice?
    @1: Yes, a trailer lowers your average speed. On the other hand it gives you a tremendous workout
    @2: Did you check what the wife really thinks about this?
    @3: Try it out. Some are bored after 5 miles or so but the majority falls asleep anyway
    Regards, Marten / www.tandemclub.nl
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