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rjberner 10-18-06 05:15 AM

Front derailleur?
 
Am struggling to keep my Ultegra front derailleur aligned and adjusted. Always liked the old XTR front on my off-road and wondered if it can be used on a 53 tooth cog on a roadie. The lit says no, but has anyone done it anyway?

TandemGeek 10-18-06 07:18 AM

Yes, XTR front derailleurs were spec'd as OEM on road tandems throughout the 90's, perhaps even in the early '00's before Shimano began to offer Ultegra & DuraAce in triple grouppos.

ElRey 10-18-06 08:59 AM

i've got Ultegra fronts and they work well. never require any adjustment.

DBC Steve 10-18-06 09:12 AM

Be sure to double-check derailleur mounting bolts. There is nothing quite like a non-fixed derailleur....

vosyer 10-19-06 12:44 AM

Stripped one in Victoria on a 500 mile cross country trip which include 200 miles of gravel. Ended up having to put in a Tiagra to get home. I have two or three triple front Ultegra der on tandems and one on a touring bike. They are constantly in need of adjusting. I just bought a nos xt front and rear der - thinking about putting these on.

Tandems 10-19-06 03:22 PM

Front Derailleur
 

Originally Posted by rjberner
Am struggling to keep my Ultegra front derailleur aligned and adjusted. Always liked the old XTR front on my off-road and wondered if it can be used on a 53 tooth cog on a roadie. The lit says no, but has anyone done it anyway?

Two problems:

1) The current XTR F/D is designed for a max big ring of 44-46 teeth, so the radius of the cage will not be optimum.

2) The more important issue is that a mountain F/D has a different actuation ratio than a road F/D. IOW, the cage will move a different amount per length of cable pull. This is not a big issue with friction shifting, but with index front shifting it is the kiss od death:)

vosyer 10-19-06 04:16 PM

Rich does this mean an older xt or xtr front der will work - what year did the switch take place?

Tandems 10-20-06 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by vosyer
Rich does this mean an older xt or xtr front der will work - what year did the switch take place?

The max ring size has varied over the years. I do know that the mid ninety's was OK for road size rings.

I don't know if the actuation ratio actually changed. It may be the same as it always was, just didn't matter until indexed front shifting came along.

LWaB 10-20-06 09:16 PM

The actuation ratio did change but I can't remember which year.


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