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    Power Measurement

    I searched the forums and found scant discussion on measurement of power for tandems. Being the quintessential quantoid (Sorry, I couldn't resist the alliteration), I never seem to have enough performance data. Well, there is a new device IBike Pro power meter (I have no stock or any interest in the success of this company.) that measures power indirectly instead of using a hub or other device and provides massive amounts of data power, speed, elevation, wind speed and etc. The device can be used on several bikes (one meter with several mounts) including a tandem. I called the company and talked with them about tandems. According to the company there is no problem using it on a tandem once one completes the calibration procedure. All data from the power meter is downloaded to a PC or Mac and there is lots of data manipulation and graphics!

    It is clear why one measures power on a road bike. Power is the best way to train and supposedly superior to heart rate. It is less clear if power on a tandem is worth the money, USD 400. There are a number of threads discussing the IBike Pro in road cycling. The biggest negative is that drafting can corrupt the power measurement due to disturbed air from the cyclist in front and there is the calibration. Otherwise, it seems to get reasonbly good reviews. The hub is the best way to measure power (expensive) but it is not practicle for tandems.

    Let us assume for the sake of argument it works, what about tandems???? I say fantastic. The more objective we are in the way we measure performance the better the team trains and performs and hence more fun. What do you think?

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    I have no direct experience with the ibike system, however there was a fairly extended discussion on;so=ASC;mh=25;

    I have however, I think, that my lab and I are the first to have successfully measured the overall power and power of the captain and stoker independently. We did laboratory and on-road testing and recently submitted a manuscript to the Journal of Applied Biomechanics. The paper is undergoing review as we speak; I don't expect to hear a decision for a couple months.

    Our set-up consisted of a stock Burley Paso Doble, we replaced the standard cranksets with SRM pro versions and had a customized rear wheel built by with a power-tap. The major modification was to remove the timing chain from the left side to the ride side. We used the inner ring of each SRM for the timing chain. This setup essentially changes our 18 speed into a 9 speed but for our purposes it does not cause a problem.

    We are using the tandem as a method of "forced-exercise" for Parkinson's patients, hence the need to measure the power of the trainer and patient independently to determine if the exercise needs to be active or passive to lead to improvements in motor function.

    PM me and I can send a pic of the bike.


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