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    newbie needed advice

    Hi - its lkeaveney responding the the closing of my thread. If you read through the entire thread you will note that I was nothing but complimentary to the forum. The one comment which got so much attention was taken out of context which is unfortunate since I really felt a connection to the quality of people (with only one exception) I was exposed to on this venue.

    Mostly, my feelings are hurt that no one bothered to ask me to explain. At any rate - I am grateful for the quality responses and advice I did receive and if I failed to use the system in a manner that left something out - I'm sorry, I'm new for crying out loud - couldn't someone have offered to help (isn't that what this is all about anyway?) instead of punishing me and shutting me down.

    Wow! I am amazed at how quickly I went from awe struck by you guys to feeling like I've been slapped in the face (twice - if you'd only bothered to ask). Sad! For me and my quest....very sad indeed.

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    After a couple of years of reading and contributing what I can, I have seen a few people mad about suposed snobery, in every case my read of the posts has been different. Sure there are people in this forum riding on very expensive gear who would never be found riding what the rest of us mortals might consider, and might have opinions that might be read as sneers, yet every time I look at the posts I see that the sneer was not intended, and the advice was sound. Don't ask from your gear more than its intended purpose, start with your intentions and then select your gear. Sometimes the poster's intentions are not clear, sometimes the expert opinion goes beyond the intent, and sometimes a poster sugests to take gear beyond its limits.

    I read the thread and I don't see where the problem lies, you might point it out, though frankly we are here to get the best out of our shared pleasure of tandeming, we all have enough conflict in our lives to bring it here, snobery or not, the advice is solid, and I enjoy hanging out here. The last thing I would want is to have people not express their opinions just to feel they are being soothing and politically correct. I am in awe of how much some of these people know, and how they share it freely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanti Andia View Post
    After a couple of years of reading and contributing what I can, I have seen a few people mad about suposed snobery, in every case my read of the posts has been different. Sure there are people in this forum riding on very expensive gear who would never be found riding what the rest of us mortals might consider, and might have opinions that might be read as sneers, yet every time I look at the posts I see that the sneer was not intended, and the advice was sound. Don't ask from your gear more than its intended purpose, start with your intentions and then select your gear. Sometimes the poster's intentions are not clear, sometimes the expert opinion goes beyond the intent, and sometimes a poster sugests to take gear beyond its limits.

    I read the thread and I don't see where the problem lies, you might point it out, though frankly we are here to get the best out of our shared pleasure of tandeming, we all have enough conflict in our lives to bring it here, snobery or not, the advice is solid, and I enjoy hanging out here. The last thing I would want is to have people not express their opinions just to feel they are being soothing and politically correct. I am in awe of how much some of these people know, and how they share it freely.
    Well spoken - I thank you for your kindness since my initial impression was "wow what an awesome group of people". Perhaps my getting all hurt by someone's response was purely a personal, learned, response to a "perceived" slight and certainly letting it go is always a better option (luckily, my daughter is extremely protective but you are right the posting was completely MY responsibility). I accept my own shortcomings and hope for that you all understand.

    Thanks again for everything. I now feel I can move forward with something that was important to me and that is completely because people in this forum helped me find a solution. My favorite part was the humor with which many of the comments were delivered. Absolutely - most of you are awesome people and I've been lucky to have discovered this forum. Thanks again

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    I don't know who said what that offended you. I find that in general, people on this fourm are respectful & helpful. There are people who have spent over $10k for a tandem. To some, that is outrageous. If somebody tried to steer you away from a $250 tandem, that does not make them a "tandem snob". In the opinion of many (myself included), spending $250 on a tandem is just a waste of money. The riders are almost certain to be disappointed & the bike will not get ridden because it is just too cheap.

    If you are budget constrained, you would likely do better buying a used tandem. Though it is not likely that you will find a good used tandem for $250, you would get a better value. However, if this is to be a gift, maybe used is not the way to go. Also, you would have to know what you are looking at to distinguish a good, old bike from junk.

    Again, without knowing what was said that offended you, I can't pass judgement on that. I think your intentions are good to surprise your daughter with a tandem, you just need to be careful & not be disappointed. Good luck in your search.

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    What we appreciate on this forum is that we all have different views/opinions and are willing to share them.
    Sometimes postings/intentions/answers are misunderstood.
    Sticker shock is the biggest thing when folks first explore the idea of a tandem.
    But put things in context . . . the nickel cup of coffee and the nickle coke in a glass bottle were nice but are no longer with us.
    In 1975 our first brand new imported tandem cost us around $350; now, just add another zeo and you've got a nice tandem, but nowhere near top of the line.
    And in school we learned that zero means 'nothing' . . .
    Pedal on TWOgether!
    Rudy and Kay/zonatandem

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    One alternative to a roof rack is to get a truck inner tube or two, partially inflate them then tie the tandem down securely. A little more fiddly than a sturdy rack, but much cheaper.

    That being said, I've been mounting my tandem on our cheapie trunk rack. Remove the wheels for width and weight, make sure everything is very snug, and check the rearview compulsively for the whole trip. Works for me! I'm doing this with my sub $1,000 tandem. If I had spent much more I'd be looking at a quality rack like a Yakima or a Thule.

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