New Winzip Brake Pads
07-27-08, 02:48 PM
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New Winzip Brake Pads
For this morning's project, I replaced the pads on our Winzip (disc) brake.
We went through the stock pads in less than 500 miles (going down the hills of Tuscany), and ended up having to replace the disc because the metal under the pads scraped it...an expensive mistake, that I would not have made, if I hadn't been expecting 2000 miles out of the pads.
Our second set of pads (Shimano resin something, or other) made it almost 1000 miles...most of the riding on this set was "rolling".
I went with EBC Gold pads for the third set. If I can get the stoker out of the house, I'll give a report on them. A big thank you to BloomingCyclist for the pad recommendation.
And a big thank you to TandemGeek for the installation instructions. (These are actually pretty easy to install, if anyone else had been putting it off).
We went through the stock pads in less than 500 miles (going down the hills of Tuscany), and ended up having to replace the disc because the metal under the pads scraped it...an expensive mistake, that I would not have made, if I hadn't been expecting 2000 miles out of the pads.
Our second set of pads (Shimano resin something, or other) made it almost 1000 miles...most of the riding on this set was "rolling".
I went with EBC Gold pads for the third set. If I can get the stoker out of the house, I'll give a report on them. A big thank you to BloomingCyclist for the pad recommendation.
And a big thank you to TandemGeek for the installation instructions. (These are actually pretty easy to install, if anyone else had been putting it off).
07-28-08, 07:41 PM
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Tuscany Huh? We are going there in September with VBT. We stay in San Gimignano, Siena and Pienza, and to loop rides from there. We just built up a new Calfee and I was thinking about just using my Campagnolo record brakes. I have a Avid disc that I can install. Can you give me a little insight what the hills are really like?
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07-29-08, 11:34 AM
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We bought the Winzip (and had it put on) by the only Santana Dealer left in SoCal (that I know of). It was not worth the drive. Rather than using the guides for the Formula (hydraulic) disc brake, they routed it through the stops for the rear V-brake. [We ended up bicycling back to the shop--50 miles each way to complain, but I got scared when they told me about the hole they would have to drill in the frame to run it the correct way.]
As you might imagine, the cable stretch was unbelievable; at the top of each hill, I'd adjust the pads (and tighten the cable a tad); after pulling the lever once, it would change from providing stopping power to slowing power. We ended up taking all the downhills pretty slowly, and we probably would have been better off with two rim brakes. However, if the choice was between a correctly installed (functioning) disc or rim brakes, I would go with the disc. (In retrospect, a drum would have been a better choice for the trip, as we really do not need non-rim brakes for our local riding--but since you already have the disc on hand...)
As for the hills: Even the "rollers" in Tuscany are mighty steep...and everything worth seeing seemed to be either up a steep hill or down a steep hill. We were in the same areas you will be going to; our tour included a ride from Sienna to Volterra, picture below is halfway up. Maybe Hermes and/or Velodiva will chime in; they were taking the hills much faster than us.
PS: Our team weight is 300+, and we had light gear on the bike (a few tools, a tire, some flip flops, and maybe a U lock).
As you might imagine, the cable stretch was unbelievable; at the top of each hill, I'd adjust the pads (and tighten the cable a tad); after pulling the lever once, it would change from providing stopping power to slowing power. We ended up taking all the downhills pretty slowly, and we probably would have been better off with two rim brakes. However, if the choice was between a correctly installed (functioning) disc or rim brakes, I would go with the disc. (In retrospect, a drum would have been a better choice for the trip, as we really do not need non-rim brakes for our local riding--but since you already have the disc on hand...)
As for the hills: Even the "rollers" in Tuscany are mighty steep...and everything worth seeing seemed to be either up a steep hill or down a steep hill. We were in the same areas you will be going to; our tour included a ride from Sienna to Volterra, picture below is halfway up. Maybe Hermes and/or Velodiva will chime in; they were taking the hills much faster than us.
PS: Our team weight is 300+, and we had light gear on the bike (a few tools, a tire, some flip flops, and maybe a U lock).
08-18-08, 03:12 PM
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We now have a few hundred miles on the EBC Gold pads, including several miles of long/steep decents.
Stopping power feels reduced with the new pads, and they are a bit louder, but the brake has required almost no adjustment since the change. Overall, it's a fair trade off, and I would recommend the pads.
Stopping power feels reduced with the new pads, and they are a bit louder, but the brake has required almost no adjustment since the change. Overall, it's a fair trade off, and I would recommend the pads.
