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    Favorite cassette brand and why?

    It's time to put a new chain and cassette on our CoMotion Speedster. I've read some of the discussion regarding the gear spacing (11-34 vs 11-28 vs 12-32 ad naseum). I'm concerned about it one cassette brand seems better suited to tandems than another. The current rear derailleur is a 9-speed XTR. If you feel compelled to comment on the range... We ride in Northwest Florida 98% of the time and have yet to use the 30 tooth chainring while in the state of Florida. We rode a century in Tallahassee and stayed in the 52 tooth big ring for the entire ride. Yes I cross-chained going into the larger cogs but it was simpler than worrying with the drop to the middle ring. Total team weight inclusive of the bike exceeds 415 gear-mashing pounds.

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    I tend to like Shimano cassettes with Shimano derailleurs. If I wasn't doing much climbing - i'd opt for the 11-27 9 speed Ultegra level cassette.
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    I've used Shimano Ultegra and SRAM cassettes with an Ultegra RD. Can't really tell the difference.

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    Ignoring the 10 speed debacle associated with removing 1/3 of the spline teeth and de-coupling 2 of the 5 largest sprockets from a spider or carrier for a moment....

    For everything up to 9 speed Shimano has been hands-down the best in terms of quality and value. They make really good chains too. I always remain on the look-out for sales.

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    We put a 12-27 Ultegra on our Davinci and I've had no shifting problems: SRAM X9 RD and Campy Chorus Shifters. I think the RD has a tweak to work with the Campy stuff. We're not that experienced, but if I lived in Florida I'd go with something even narrower range. We don't need an 11t cog 'cause we've got a 60t equivalent chainring.
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    If you're running a Shimano drivetrain, I think there's some merit staying with a Shimano cassette.

    And as far as commenting on gearing, why not put on a tight cluster like an 11-23. If you're in the big ring all the time anyway, you don't need bigger than the 23, and it will give you tight spacing and crisp shifting.

    And you still have a 30/23 low gear if you venture into the hills.
    You could fall off a cliff and die.
    You could get lost and die.
    You could hit a tree and die.
    OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.

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    Depending where you do most of your riding dictates range of cassette needed.
    We run XTR rear der, SRAM 11/34 9- speed cassette and SRAM PC-991 chains.
    Currently riding in northern Utah for 3 months; like at home in Tucson, AZ we've got some hills and elevation to contend with . . . + at ages 76/74, we ain't getting any younger!
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    If we lived/rode in your part in FL we'd be happy with an 11/23 or 11/28 depending on teams strengths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    If you're running a Shimano drivetrain, I think there's some merit staying with a Shimano cassette.

    And as far as commenting on gearing, why not put on a tight cluster like an 11-23. If you're in the big ring all the time anyway, you don't need bigger than the 23, and it will give you tight spacing and crisp shifting.

    And you still have a 30/23 low gear if you venture into the hills.
    I meant to type 11-23 instead of 11-27. I agree - if there isn't any climbing involved why waste gears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TandemGeek View Post
    Ignoring the 10 speed debacle associated with removing 1/3 of the spline teeth and de-coupling 2 of the 5 largest sprockets from a spider or carrier for a moment....

    For everything up to 9 speed Shimano has been hands-down the best in terms of quality and value. They make really good chains too. I always remain on the look-out for sales.
    If you are considering 10 speed, do yourself a favor and get a SRAM Red cassette, stronger and lighter than any Shimano 10sp casette, also doesn't have the spline gouging issues either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WheresWaldo View Post
    If you are considering 10 speed, do yourself a favor and get a SRAM Red cassette, stronger and lighter than any Shimano 10sp casette, also doesn't have the spline gouging issues either.

    Relative to 'best value for money', how much do those SRAM Red's cost nowadays? Last time I checked it was the $200+ price tag that sent me scurrying back to Shimano.

    As for the Shimano 10 & spline gouging, thankfully via this group & our friend JTGraphics I was put onto American Classic's nifty little clips that were designed to address Shimano's gaff:



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    Yes, of course there are the clips, mentioned in several threads. The Red cassette can be found online for just a few dollars more than the DA. But when it comes to Shimano cassettes the 105 and Ultegra come in at much better price points.
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    Shimano 9 speed does give a lot of gearing options, I have a 12-30, which gives me a low of 30-30
    Harris cyclery sells them in a lot of configurations or you can buy the individual cogs and make your own. I wish the 10 speed cassettes could be customised like the 9 speed, but Shimano isn't really interested in serving the tandem market these days.

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    I wonder if anybody has had any luck with IRD 10 speed cassettes because they make some good gearing choices. I tried one of their 9 speed cassettes a few years back and had to return it because it did not shift well enough to even ride it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnbrown View Post
    I wonder if anybody has had any luck with IRD 10 speed cassettes because they make some good gearing choices. I tried one of their 9 speed cassettes a few years back and had to return it because it did not shift well enough to even ride it.
    Our 12-30 10sp IRD cassette works as well as a 12-27 Ultegra. I think the problems may have been with their wider range cassettes.

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    We use an 11/34 IRD on the Comotion and while I wouldn't say it's as good as my Campy single setup, it's fine. We need the wider range because of aging issues.

    Frank and Terry


    Quote Originally Posted by rmac View Post
    Our 12-30 10sp IRD cassette works as well as a 12-27 Ultegra. I think the problems may have been with their wider range cassettes.

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    thanks to everyone for their input. we're currently out of town and I'll be making a decision about what to do when we get back.

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