Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Tandem Cycling A bicycle built for two. Want to find out more about this wonderful world of tandems? Check out this forum to talk with other tandem enthusiasts. Captains and stokers welcome!

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-26-09, 03:44 PM   #1
TeamTi700
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 167
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Stokers & Navigation

Does anybody else have a stoker that complains about how difficult navigation is? I'm not sure what the problem is.



TeamTi700 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-09, 04:15 PM   #2
Ritterview
Tandem Vincitur
 
Ritterview's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern California
Bikes: BMC Pro Machine SLC01, Specialized Globe, Burley Rock 'N Roll tandem, Calfee Dragonfly tandem.
Posts: 3,317
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
On our tandem ride this morning we headed out on the Los Gatos Creek Trail MUP. When we had had enough of dodging toddlers, skaters, dog walkers, oblivious cell phone talking pedestrians we got off and had no idea where we were.

Just put in our home as destination in the Garmin Edge 705, and got a course home.



iPhone would have done the same, but it is nice to have the route right in front of the captain, rather than in the hands of the stoker.
Ritterview is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-09, 04:19 PM   #3
Retro Grouch 
Senior Member
 
Retro Grouch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: St Peters, Missouri
Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.
Posts: 26,903
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 206 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by TeamTi700 View Post
Does anybody else have a stoker that complains about how difficult nagivation is? I'm not sure what the problem is.
There. I fixed it for you.
Retro Grouch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-09, 06:07 PM   #4
zonatandem
Senior Member
 
zonatandem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Tucson, AZ
Bikes: Custom Zona c/f tandem + Scott Plasma single
Posts: 10,904
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 41 Post(s)
Nope!
zonatandem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-09, 11:24 AM   #5
TandemMad
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 5
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
No complaints here. I am the stoker for my team and I'm happy to "just sit there and pedal and let my captain do all the navigating. I have complete trust in him.
When we get "misplaced" and have no idea where we are we just ride around till we recognize something and head the way we figure we should go. We've discovered some great scenes and out of the way places we'd never have seen otherwise.
We have no navigation device, other than a few maps, and we hardly even use those.
By the way, what are the best navigational units out there?
TandemMad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-09, 01:38 PM   #6
rmac
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 573
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
After 5 wrong turns on a ride with a cue sheet, we decided it was best that we get a Garmin Edge 705. I now put the ride in beforehand and it gives us warnings about the turns.

Last edited by rmac; 09-30-09 at 07:25 AM.
rmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-09, 09:36 PM   #7
girl_in_lace
I'm a girl on my tandem
 
girl_in_lace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Bikes: Cannondale Tandem
Posts: 24
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I''m a stoker that have very good peddling strength which mean that my tandem guide doesn't comclin. He says I am a strong peddler.
girl_in_lace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-09, 05:40 PM   #8
regomatic
Cyclist- Bike 'n a half
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Orlando, FL
Bikes: Custom S & S Bushnell Tandem, Eddy Merckx Ti
Posts: 257
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
My stoker was not overly "directionally challenged" when we first met. I was a very avid fisherman/boater at the time and she was quick to pick up the basics of reading a navigational chart and how to hold a course by compass.

Now she has her own GPS. Its an eTrex and doesn't have all the routing capabilities of the 705 or others, but she does fine with it. Even at events where cue sheet cumulative mileage doesn't match the GPS, it's usually because of some .2-.5 mile error somewhere along the way, she picks up on the add-on or subtraction miles and does the math to tell me in advance of the next turn.

She's been telling me where to go for about 17 years now, so this comes pretty naturally to her by now.
regomatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-09, 05:46 PM   #9
rdtompki
Senior Member
 
rdtompki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Hollister, CA
Bikes: Volagi, daVinci Joint Venture
Posts: 3,962
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
We have 705 and 305 Garmins on our tandem, but I'll still take a paper map if we're trying a new ride in unfamiliar territory. The Garmins are great if you're following what we call the "blue line" or if you're completely trusting of turn-by-turn directions, but if you're forced to go off program I don't trust the Gramin's to just get me there on a bicycle. I've had enough problems in rental cars. Nothing says "Situational Awareness" like a paper map.

If you do get lost, however, you have the satisfaction of knowing exactly where you are in Lat/Lon.
rdtompki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-09, 10:19 PM   #10
Red Rider
Don't mince words
 
Red Rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Vacaville, CA
Bikes: '16 BH Quartz, Co-Motion Roadster "Blue Jay"; Fuji D6 TT bike
Posts: 6,955
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
As stoker I willingly abdicate my role as back-seat driver. I have Google Maps on my BlackBerry in case the Garmin fails -- I'm a former Girl Scout and I believe in being prepared.
Red Rider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-09, 07:37 AM   #11
GingerSpice
Spicy!!!!
 
GingerSpice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Switzerland
Bikes:
Posts: 16
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Wow, I feel totally old-school.

I stick the map in the captain's back pocket, preferably in a clear plastic sleeve and with the bit of road we're currently riding visible to me. If we get lost, or ride off the map, I take it out of the pocket for closer inspection or to fold the map over.

Works like a charm.

Ginger
GingerSpice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-09, 08:58 AM   #12
Monoborracho
Senior Member
 
Monoborracho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Deep In The Heart
Bikes: Seven Ti Tandem, Blue T12 tri bike, 92 Paramount, 93 Schwinn Mesa MTB, Soma Saga
Posts: 2,614
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
At a recent tandem rally we did 44 miles on a 36 mile route, with captain (me) navigating. Stoker never complained at all.
__________________
Most economic fallacies derive from the tendency to assume that there is a fixed pie, that one party can gain only at the expense of another.....Milton Friedman
Monoborracho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-09, 03:42 PM   #13
TeamTi700
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 167
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
I hope everyone realizes that this post was only intended to point out the humor of arriving at the intersection of "Second" & "Second."

Rick
TeamTi700 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:37 PM.