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    Just Another Day Above the City

    Kath and I took the daVinci out for a little training ride in prep for this w/e's Riverbank Century. The picture came out real nice me thinks. This is a shot of us at the top of the Marin Headlands with, well you know in the background...
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    What a view and a great looking bike too!

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    You're sure dressed up - Was it cold there?

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    Great view and cool bike! I have to say that as we ave a da Vinci that looks to be almost a clone of yours, even down to the color scheme and the dual disk brakes. Looks like you have 700 wheels whereas we have 26". Ours is a Global as we have some plans to tour abroad eventually.

    Have fun on the Riverbank. My stoker isn't quite up to centuries yet, but that looks a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickjordan View Post
    Great view and cool bike! I have to say that as we ave a da Vinci that looks to be almost a clone of yours, even down to the color scheme and the dual disk brakes. Looks like you have 700 wheels whereas we have 26". Ours is a Global as we have some plans to tour abroad eventually.

    Have fun on the Riverbank. My stoker isn't quite up to centuries yet, but that looks a good one.

    Mick Jordan

    P.S. You and I both rode Solvang and DMD doubles this year. Here's my CTC profile.
    You must know "pumpkin" Jay?
    Jay's a member of my club (Diablo Cyclists) and lives in Antioch where I own a home. I live however in Dublin. I see Jay down in Sunol all the time from some reason. I've got one more double to get me into the 1000 miler club and that will be Death Valley Fall. Never done a double on the tandem though. Probably won't either unless I ride it as a single because Kath isn't into doubles....yet. I'm going to try to get her to do Solvang. That would be a great double for a tandem!
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    Quote Originally Posted by swc7916 View Post
    You're sure dressed up - Was it cold there?
    I always say you can take the boy out of Miami but you can't take the Miami out of the boy. It was a chilly day for both of us. In the 50's... Even after living in the Bay Area for 25 years, I still can't stand cold weather. I know, it ain't really cold here but compared to my first 30 years of my life living in South FLA., I always ride with my windbreaker and kneekers when it's below 65...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanRH View Post
    I've got one more double to get me into the 1000 miler club and that will be Death Valley Fall. Never done a double on the tandem though. Probably won't either unless I ride it as a single because Kath isn't into doubles....yet. I'm going to try to get her to do Solvang. That would be a great double for a tandem!
    I'm done with doubles for the year; would like to do Death Valley but it's sold out. I've seen the tandem riders on the doubles and they are a pretty awesome group. I do have a goal of doing the Death Ride on the tandem but I need to find a stoker who is crazy enough, my wife certainly isn't. One thing is for sure, the da Vinci 24-32 low gearing does make climbing hills relatively easy.

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    Great photo..very cool backdrop.

    We're going riding shortly (9.00am)...it's 41 degrees..this is California in early October!!! what is the deal.

    Doubles ??? I don't think so.....ever! But.. we're looking forward to the Riverbank C. as well...we'll be the ones grinding out the long grades on our favorite ol' white C'dale...smile as you guys go by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specbill View Post
    Great photo..very cool backdrop.

    We're going riding shortly (9.00am)...it's 41 degrees..this is California in early October!!! what is the deal.

    Doubles ??? I don't think so.....ever! But.. we're looking forward to the Riverbank C. as well...we'll be the ones grinding out the long grades on our favorite ol' white C'dale...smile as you guys go by.

    Bill J.
    What time are you starting Bill? And I feel you'll be the ones who say "see ya" as we are relatively new to the tandem world...you guys doing the 100?
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    We are signed up for the Century and will leave no later than the 7.00AM start time ...maybe 5 or 10 mins before. The weather is looking good....we're just praying that the winds don't come up....should be a great ride. We will keep an eye out for your DaVinci (sure can't mistaken that cool paint scheme) and will make a point to say "Hi".

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    My wife and I will be the wimps doing the 100K on our Davinci, but Dan has promised a report on the century climbing. I think we'll do the 100 mile ride in Davis the following weekend and two in a row would be a bit too much in any event. Understand the winds can be bad in Davis, but we'll just take our chances. One thing we learned at the Lighthouse was that a quartering headwing really makes you feel like your each riding singles. Enjoy the ride!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdtompki View Post
    My wife and I will be the wimps doing the 100K on our Davinci, but Dan has promised a report on the century climbing. I think we'll do the 100 mile ride in Davis the following weekend and two in a row would be a bit too much in any event. Understand the winds can be bad in Davis, but we'll just take our chances. One thing we learned at the Lighthouse was that a quartering headwing really makes you feel like your each riding singles. Enjoy the ride!
    Is that Foxy's Fall Century in Davis Rick? One year I did it and I've never ever seen such wind. Honest to God, coming out of rest stop 1 the fastest anyone was going was 7 mph!
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    Dan, Foxy's would be the one. We're planning on day-of registration so if the wind forecast looks bad we'll skip it or ride the 100K. There are only a few organized rides left before "winter" and stoker Sherrill is pretty enthusiastic after doing 90 miles of the Lighthouse. I did have advanced warning of the wind and I will pass that on to management.
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    DanRH..Rick T...so how did you like the Riverbank Wine and Cheese ride?

    Sorry we missed you guys...in fact we saw no Tandems the whole day, We started at 7.00am straight up and did not get back 'til 3.45 ....we were pretty used up. Very cool course, with some great rest stop locations. Lots to see with lakes, the resovoir, dams, Knights Ferry and plenty of Blue Oaks to ride through. Easy first half heading southeast with a breeze to our backs and modest climbs. One ugly super steep and twisty down hill which negated the usual reward from the longest slow climb of the ride. It stressed our Avid V's a bit but no problems, just a slow technical decent that was no fun at all. For the second half of the day we had some wind in our face but fortunately it wasn't to bad. All in all a fun one but may do the Metric next time.

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    Bill,
    We saw Dan and Kathy at the start and said hi (DW/stoker was keeping warm in the car). Definitely very enjoyable 100K + 4 wrong turn miles with a good variety of scenary. Not wide shoulders, but generally very little traffic. Plenty of rest stops with very friendly folk. The only real climb, short and steep, snuck up on us and I never did get us in our 30 cog; got some justifiable complaints from management and found the front tire was going flat at the top of the climb. Had some headwind in the early going, but the last half was mostly rollers. Saw one tandem other than Dan, one we passed in the last mile. We will definitely do this again next year, but we'll see how strong we've gotten as to whether we do the 100K or Century.

    We never did really find any 1/2-bikes to ride with as we're too slow for fast riders and too fast for slow riders. BTW, I was very surprised at how few riders had even blinkies on the back. I had several folks tell us they could see our taillight a mile away: just the way I want it on these country roads.
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    Yup, saw Rick T and his better half staying warm in the car. I'm writing up a report since it was our first century on the tandem, which will be out in a day or two. All went well with fantastic weather. Saw one other tandem briefly at lunch but they rolled in and out quickly. Since we were dawdling like crazy at the rest stops, we got back around 5. I even bought a Coke and some ice cream in Knights Ferry. YUM! Had a great time. We will be doing more. Total damage for the day? 5,000' of gain in 108 miles (wrong turn while following some halfies)...
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    Dan, I notice you have 700 wheels on your Global Venture. Just curious how you made that decision. I went with the advice from da Vinci (Todd S) to use 26 wheels. I can't recall the details but strength was one factor. Looking forward to your report. Someday we should try to hook up and ride together. The two da Vincis woukld be an awesome sight!

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    Mick, we test rode the bike and bought it off the floor. I guess I'm clueless when it comes to the advantages to 26" wheels. I'd love to hook up sometime.
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    Mick,
    I'll add my 2 cents. I thought it was a toss-up. I did exchange e-mails with Todd S. and he indicated we had the room for up to 38mm tires on the 700c model (we're running 28mm) so I felt we had some margin if we needed a larger tire. If the "floor model" that we liked had been 26" we would have bought it. Max team (sans bike) weight for our tandem would be 390 lbs. with one of my sons in the back. BTW, would definitely have leaned toward 26" if we were ever going to do loaded touring.
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    Dan...congrats to you and your stoker on your first Tanden Century...clearly you guys are not shy about riding as that was not an easy one for a maiden C. ' Looking forward to your report.

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    For the record, here are the reasons direct from the daVinci web site:

    Why We offer 26" Wheels For The Road?

    • 26” wheels are stronger than 700c wheels. Since tandems carry more weight than single bikes, they are ideal for running 26” wheels.
    • Disc brakes are stronger with 26” wheels. The same size rotor will have more leverage to stop the bike with the smaller wheel.
    • 26” wheels have less inertia and weigh less than a comparably designed 700c wheel. Therefore, they accelerate more quickly, climb better and are fast.
    • 26” wheels offer a versatile tire selection, from narrow road tires to aggressive mountain bike tires.

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    Wow! Thanks Mick! Had I known I would've seriously considered them! Thanks!
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