Last edited by Ritterview; 10-12-09 at 09:21 PM. Reason: To get the link to work. Repost the photo.
It's called a courting tandem and the captain rides in the rear position, which is why the rear saddle sits higher on the frame.
Note that the front bars still 'steer', but steering is 'controlled' from the rear.
If you'd really like to get into some esoteric tandem trivia, let me be the first to twist your head around the idea that the captain may actually be the chauffer or "stoker".
Note that horse-drawn carriages and steam-powered trains pre-date bicycles, thus the term 'chauffeur' (stoker) was well defined before it may have been applied to tandem bicycles where, it is fairly easy to suggest, the one who steers, brakes and otherwise makes sure the machine is operating is the 'chauffeur'.A chauffeur is an individual who operates any self-propelled vehicle for a profession. While the term may refer to anybody who drives for a living, it usually implies a driver of an elegant passenger vehicle such as a horse-drawn carriage, luxury sedan, motor coach, or especially a limousine; those who operate non-passenger vehicles are generally referred to as "drivers" and truck driver. In some countries, particularly developing nations where a ready supply of labor ensures that even the middle classes can afford domestic staff and among the wealthy, the chauffeur may simply be called the "driver." "Chauffeur" is the modern French masculine term (noun/verb) derived from the meaning "he who heats". The earliest automobiles, like their railroad and sea vessel counterparts, were steam-powered and required the driver to pre-heat the engine to produce energy, thus, the French term for stoker.
Last edited by TandemGeek; 10-12-09 at 06:06 AM.
I have some interest in this tandem if it is indeed a Barnes tandem. I wonder how much of the bike is authentic . Anybody know anything about bikes of that era? If the frame and cranks are authentic I think it would be worth the $200.00 to me. Also, I think I saw this bike [posted in another city on Craigs list for $600.0 a couple of months ago.
Do the front handlebars steer as well (seems dangerous)? Brakes?
Hello all !
I own the '98 Barnes Tandem here in Richmond, Va. Bikes Dating: (Seat post is stamped 1898) The bike does steer from the front & rear simutaneously. I'm the third owner. additional info and pictures on my website at: BergsBicycles.com or feel free to email me at BergsBicycles@comcast.net.
I wouldn't think it's any more dangerous than having the pedals work in phase because basically the stronger steering input wins out. The flight cockpits on commercial jetliners have dual control yokes that also work in unison although typically only one pilot operates one of them at a time. If you have two riders fighting to steer the bike in opposing directions, then I suppose there would be a problem, but these are not really high speed bikes.
Last edited by Stray8; 10-12-09 at 01:43 PM.
saddles not includedNew 28" tubes & tires, * New aluminum wheel-set laced to original hubs by Luke at BUNNY HOP Bike shopNOTE: handlebars, stems, wheel-set, tubes, tires, cork grips, 1960's front pedals are not original to the bike.
Last edited by Stray8; 10-12-09 at 01:46 PM.
A couple current versions of 'steering from the rear' tandems.
The Brown Kidz tandem and the Pino (German).
The ad is down now, was this bike purchased? Someone here?
Hello All - The Barnes tandem has been sold. Thank you all for your interest. Tim / BergsBicycles.com
I am anxiously awaiting delivery of my new for me, namesake tandem! Chichi Barnes!
I wonder If I can convince my stoker that we should fill in some of the gaps in what will be the new stable of Tandems
Chichi, you are close to Dr. Deltron.
He could resto that frameset for you, and make it awesome.
Oh man... If it hadn't been sold I'd be taking a trip up to Richmond this weekend...
Last edited by Chris_W; 10-20-09 at 12:55 PM.
Imagine doing a crit on that thing.
There are not enough to describe that!!
Canberra Bicycle Museum and take the example they've got for a spin, and tell us how it works.
A few more pics. If anyone here ever gets one, we'd need a thread of Pictures of Terrified Tandem Couples.
The Rucker......talk about a frame with a bit of flex...Yikes!!