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TandemGeek 01-09-10 09:41 AM

Florida Tandem Clubs: Any Left??? (Tandem Club Info Updates)
 
If anyone has contact information for any tandem clubs that are alive and well in Florida, please let me know.

I'm beginning my annual update of tandem clubs for www.thetandemlink.com and have learned that at least two of the Florida clubs (FLIRTS & TASTE) ceased to be a while back. Additionally, the contact info for two other clubs from days gone by, Flyers & FLATTS, has also gone stale.

I'm told the Florida Freewheelers are the defacto home club for many of the tandem enthusiasts in the northern part of Florida but, interestingly enough, their Website is off-line at the moment.

Not to leave anyone out, please feel free to peruse my club contact information and let me know if you're aware of any needed updates: additions, deletions or changes.

Map of the Nation is here:
http://www.thetandemlink.com/UStandemclubs.html

On this page, the icons around the edges of the map are hot linked to the last known URL for that club's website. Within the map, each area of the country is linked to a second web page that has a contact listing, which you can also find here:

http://www.thetandemlink.com/USclubaddresses

The same would also apply to our International club info:
http://www.thetandemlink.com/nationalclubs.html

If you know of any needed updates, please let me know.

regomatic 01-09-10 05:36 PM

The Florida P.A.N.T.H.E.R.S. (Partners Aboard Neat Tandems Happily Enjoying Riding Simultaneously) are just getting started.

Look for additional info coming soon here;

http://floridatandemclub.org/

merlinextraligh 01-10-10 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TandemGeek (Post 10246556)
I'm told the Florida Freewheelers are the defacto home club for many of the tandem enthusiasts in the northern part of Florida but, interestingly enough, their Website is off-line at the moment.

Clremont is more central than norh Florida.

We're not aware of any clubs in North Flroida, although there are a lot of people who own tandems.

we've thought about trying to start up a club for North Florida.

Any advice on getting a club organized?

TandemGeek 01-10-10 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh (Post 10250315)
Any advice on getting a club organized?

Unless you just like parliamentary procedure and have a copy of Robert's Rules under your breast pocket, keep it simple, informal and focused on getting together for rides with post-ride social gathering at a restaurant. Use something like an Email list or YahooGroups to create a communication vehicle that allows folks to stay in touch and take turns 'hosting' rides. I use 'hosting' in the loosest sense of the word, in that once things become too structured you run the risk of liability in the event of an accident.

PEACHES has never had any elected officers, never held a rally, never collected dues or done anything else that resembles a 'club' and survives to this day. Ride turn-outs remain low, but frankly they've always been low. So long as there are a few folks who like to ride together, it keeps on working.

Onegun 01-10-10 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TandemGeek (Post 10250441)
PEACHES has never had any elected officers, never held a rally, never collected dues or done anything else that resembles a 'club' and survives to this day.

And that's not a bad way to go. Having seen the politics and power struggles between people that had long since forgotten this was supposed to be about riding bicycles, I certainly understand!

But that's not the way the folks involved with the PANTHERS have decided to go. As a matter of fact, there's been some discussion already of club jerseys, monthly rides around the state, a rally, and other fun things that will probably necessitate some small amount of dues, 501c status at some point, etc, etc.

What will save this club from the foibles of many others, (I believe), is that the average age of many tandem riders puts them beyond the point of maximum testosterone production! ;-)

The drawback to keeping it too "informal" is exactly what TG noted: ride turn-outs remain low. More teams mean more fun for everyone, more opportunities to meet people and find someone to ride with in your own area. It also means more people to share the work of having even bigger events, and as anyone who's ever attended a rally knows, they are a LOT of fun!

Merlin, I believe the hope is that teams from all areas of Florida will choose to join the club and "host" a ride for all of us in their area every once in a while, and further, that enough teams will choose to participate in that to translate into a monthly (or so) ride all year long without ever repeating a location.

In the meantime, as I understand it, we will be free to organize local weekly rides under the club umbrella. Rest assured that a few of us in the Tampa Bay area are already on-board with the concept. The Villages is a nice place to ride, but I don't want to run over there every weekend just to be able to ride with other tandems. So organizing weekly rides here under the club auspices would be an ideal scenario, while helping to support / making us a part of a larger organization which could in turn do bigger things.

To help facilitate that, the club website may well include a forum, (like this one), divided up into city sub-forums for the various areas to keep in touch with each other for rides, as well as to assist in helping new teams find locals to show them the ropes!

For all these reasons, we would hope that most Florida teams would choose to join the PANTHERS club rather than going back to the same scenario that left us with NO clubs in Florida, i.e., a gaggle of small clubs that are really reliant on the charisma of one or two teams to hold them together. A larger club is not nearly as susceptible to that phenomenon, and tends to take on a sustainable life of it's own.

merlinextraligh 01-10-10 08:22 PM

That sounds good. And one centrally locate Florida club, with some informal branches seems like a workable model.

My only problem is we alreay had a great name for a Jacksonville club: JETS (Jacksonville Ecclectic Tandem Society)

Is it a rule that Tandem clubs have to use an acronym?

TandemGeek 01-10-10 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh (Post 10252402)
Is it a rule that Tandem clubs have to use an acronym?

In the immortal words of Captain Barbossa, like the Pirate's code "It's more of a guideline, really."

Tom Ostertag somewhat captured the origins of tandem club naming in a April '94 posting to the Hobbes list when someone asked:

Quote:

> QUESTION:
> Where did the habit come from for naming tandem clubs after animals?
> The chicago tandem club is CATS. The Minnesota club is LOONS. Where
> did that wonderful trandition start? BTW, my wife isn't too happy about
> joining a group called COWS, neither am I.

I'm sure that the COWs would have no problem with non-club riders. We've been
invited on several of them. As for the tradition of naming clubs after
animals, you have to attend a Midwest Tandem Rally to fully appreciate and
understand the significance. The tradition started in '84 when the CATS
showed up at the MTR with their Pink Panther mascot wearing pink coveralls and
tails. The LOONS then reciprocated with loons on their bikes and helmets and a
notorious skit at the Springfield Rally. There was a Truce weekend in there
somewhere at Steven's Point Wisconsin where all teams got together and had a
good time. John and Peggy Odell did the honors.

From that time on, we had the MUTS, the COWs, etc. (by the way, the LOONS were
originally named after the State Bird, but at the MTR in Michigan they decided
that the acronym really stands for Lovers Out On Non-Singles...) If you come
to the Rally in Rochester over Labor Day, you can meet Ken Lewis, Tom Masters,
John Evans and a few others and then you will have a much better understanding
why tandem clubs are named after animals. Unless, you're one of those real
serious bikie types who never has any fun.


TandemGeek 01-10-10 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Onegun (Post 10252185)
The drawback to keeping it too "informal" is exactly what TG noted: ride turn-outs remain low. More teams mean more fun for everyone, more opportunities to meet people and find someone to ride with in your own area. It also means more people to share the work of having even bigger events, and as anyone who's ever attended a rally knows, they are a LOT of fun!

Merlin, I believe the hope is that teams from all areas of Florida will choose to join the club and "host" a ride for all of us in their area every once in a while, and further, that enough teams will choose to participate in that to translate into a monthly (or so) ride all year long without ever repeating a location.

FWIW, formal or informal has nothing to do with turn-out... Other priorities such as kids and other interests coupled with differences in riding levels are what typically whittle down the turn-out. If you're fortunate enough to have a critical mass of folks in the same age demographic -- such as may be the case with the folks at the Villages -- where kids aren't a factor and cycling is their primary interest, or a large number of folks who are into serious training rides, then turn-out will be much stronger and consistent. However, as clubs become known for having 'fast' club rides, teams that aren't 'fast' won't show up more than once as being dropped and riding alone at a group ride is a big turn-off.

Anyway, getting back to the informal club structure, PEACHES has held monthly rides or gatherings for 12 years, kicked off by the annual ride planning meeting each January where 'members' gather at a restaurant for dinner and then work up the next year's riding calendar as teams volunteer to host rides covering each month of the year. These are typically one-day rides of 25-60 miles that are held within 2 hours of Atlanta.

Again, the only thing missing is the formal 'club' structure that Rich Wolf put in place when he founded the club back in '97 and it's worked just fine. There have been three different PEACHES jerseys and the Email list (yahoo groups) has 248 subscribers but the list is used strictly for communicating club activities, although new members will sometimes ask a basic question regarding tandems or a classified ad will pop up.

My off-road tandem enthusiast's discussion forum at Yahoo Groups, Double Forte, is essentially following the same model on an international level with 400 subscribers, less the monthly rides: there just aren't that many off-road tandem enthusiasts close enough together to support a regular "group ride" calendar. We even did about 120 Jersey's a few years ago which are scattered around the world. Alex Nutt will be hosting the second off-road tandem gathering of what are primarily DF members near Asheville, NC in May. There were a couple held a few years earlier both in Asheville and at Tsali, NC where we had folks travelling in far and wide for the weekend. The Tsali weekend was hosted by a DF member from Asheville, David Lee, and I think we had 13 couples: one from Canada, one from Chicago, IL, several from Ohio, one from Michigan, a couple from Florida and so on. I think there may be teams coming to Asheville this May from places like New Jersey, Arizona, Texas and Canada as well as more local places. Again, no real structure other than the discussion forum is the catalyst that's been in place since April 2000.

Please note, I'm not advocating for one structure or the other, just sharing what I've observed over the years.

Onegun 01-11-10 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh (Post 10252402)
Is it a rule that Tandem clubs have to use an acronym?

Oh! Apparently you didn't get the memo! Not only do they have to have an acronym, it has to be an animal or a food! Besides, do you really want to be the JETS when you're in JAGS territory??!!

As for the PANTHERS, that one stands for "Partners Aboard Neat Tandems Happily Enjoying Riding Simultaneously". The committee involved in the selection of the name SWEARS they were just drinking coffee when they came up with it!

TandemGeek 01-11-10 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Onegun (Post 10253511)
Not only do they have to have an acronym, it has to be an animal or a food!

Not exactly....

Tandem Clubs that are still mostly in existence to some extent...
n/a = no acronym, per se

Chicago Area Tandem Society - CATS
Chile Peddlers of New Mexico - n/a
Coalition of Young & Old Tandem Enthusiasts - COYOTES
Colorado Tandem Club - n/a
Couples on Wheels - COWS
Couples Riding a Bike Simultaneously - CRABS
Dallas Area Tandem Enthusiasts - DATES
Doubles Of the Garden State - DOGS
Enthusiastic Group of Riders Exercising Tandem Style - EGRETS
Evergreen Tandem Club - n/a
Four Legs Always MOVING On TandemS - FLAMINGOS
Gold Country Tandem Club - n/a
Greater Raleigh Intrepid Tandem Society - GRITS
Greater Rochester Eating and Tandeming Society - GREAT SOCIETY
Heart of the South - n/a
Hoosiers Out On Tandems - HOOTS
Houston Area Tandem Society - HATS
Michigan United Tandem Society - MUTS
Paired Iowans Going Somewhere - PIGS
Pairs Enthusiastically Astride Cycles Having Experiences Simultaneously - PEACHES
Rockford Area Pedaling Tandems on Road Society - RAPTORS
San Diego Tandem Club - n/a
TailWind Tandem Club - n/a
Tandem Bicyclists of New England - T-BONE
Tandems Illinois Going Everywhere Riding in Style - TIGERS
Tandem Time - n/a
Team Northwest Tandemonium - TNT
Texas Capital Area Tandem Society of Austin - TX-CATS
Vermont Bicycling Unorganized Duos - VT-BUDS
Washington Area Bicyclists In Tandem Society - WABITS


Tandem Clubs that have come and gone or are assumed to be OBE...

Ann Arbor Riding Duos Venturing About Rolling Kountry Sides - AARDVARKS
Bismark Tandem Enthusiasts - BITE
Boise Area Tandem Riders - n/a
Boulder United Tandem TeamS - BUTTS
Brazos Area Tandem Society of Texas - BATS
Carson & Reno Area Tandem Society - CARATS
Deuces Wild, Las Vegas - n/a
Four Seasons Tandem Club - COLTS
Greater Acadiana Tandem Owners & Riders Society - GATORS
Greater New Orleans Area Tandem Society - GNATS
Greater Ohio Area Tandem Society - GOATS
Modesto Area Tandem Enthusiasts - MATES
Move About Southern California On Tandems - MASCOTS
Pennsylvania Recreational Riders on Tandems - PARROTS
Pocatello Idaho Tandem Society - PITS
Richmond Area Tandem Society - RATS
Tandem Riders of Longview - TROLS
Tandems of Ponca Laughter Eating & Social Society - TOPLESS
Tandems of York Society - TOYS
Twin Cities Tandem Club / Lena n' Ole On Non-Singles* - LOONS

Also reported as Lover Out On Non-Singles, but the Lena n' Ole version is what the folks in Minnesota cite.

PMK 01-12-10 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh (Post 10252402)
That sounds good. And one centrally locate Florida club, with some informal branches seems like a workable model.

My only problem is we alreay had a great name for a Jacksonville club: JETS (Jacksonville Ecclectic Tandem Society)

Is it a rule that Tandem clubs have to use an acronym?

If a South Florida group ever formed, I'm suggesting the name of South Florida Tandems AKA SOFLAT, not representing an animal nor food, just something obvious about where we live...

PK

PMK 01-12-10 04:36 AM

[QUOTE]
Quote:

Originally Posted by TandemGeek (Post 10252649)
If you're fortunate enough to have a critical mass of folks in the same age demographic -- such as may be the case with the folks at the Villages -- where kids aren't a factor and cycling is their primary interest, or a large number of folks who are into serious training rides, then turn-out will be much stronger and consistent.

The Villages was fun to ride. We have had invitations to make the drive up and join them on their weekend rides. The distance makes it a bit impractical for us. Not sure what the total rider count is there, but there appears to be a scattering of tandems all over the state. Getting to plan and attend more of a short getaway from our local area, and ride a semi organized fun ride is always a blast for us.

Quote:

However, as clubs become known for having 'fast' club rides, teams that aren't 'fast' won't show up more than once as being dropped and riding alone at a group ride is a big turn-off.
It's obvious that there are teams that post here that can ride fast over a long distance. I admit guilt to play racing tactics too. When we need to train specifically we go alone with goals set. But most times when group riding with smaller groups, I have no problem making certain others finish safe and at a pace good for them. Not saying or suggesting this is 100% of the time, but knocking a hole in the wind, or riding a slower pace with encouraging words so others finish the ride can be part of a great ride also. I guess a lot of this involves knowing how large the group is, plus paying attention to others you are riding with.

One thing I won't step into again is letting a racer type parent take their kid (teen) on a ride and dump them with us knowing we will get them back safe while the parent rides off with their racer friends. Next time I chase down the parent and tell them ride with your kid, not hear the parent tell me we were close to the end or you were right behind me and took a wrong turn. This happened on an EPIC MTB ride, it sure won't happen on the road.



Quote:

My off-road tandem enthusiast's discussion forum at Yahoo Groups, Double Forte, is essentially following the same model on an international level with 400 subscribers, less the monthly rides: there just aren't that many off-road tandem enthusiasts close enough together to support a regular "group ride" calendar. We even did about 120 Jersey's a few years ago which are scattered around the world. Alex Nutt will be hosting the second off-road tandem gathering of what are primarily DF members near Asheville, NC in May. There were a couple held a few years earlier both in Asheville and at Tsali, NC where we had folks travelling in far and wide for the weekend. The Tsali weekend was hosted by a DF member from Asheville, David Lee, and I think we had 13 couples: one from Canada, one from Chicago, IL, several from Ohio, one from Michigan, a couple from Florida and so on. I think there may be teams coming to Asheville this May from places like New Jersey, Arizona, Texas and Canada as well as more local places. Again, no real structure other than the discussion forum is the catalyst that's been in place since April 2000.
We are hoping to attend Alex's event, just may be a lot happening that week to prevent it. I noticed your ECDM possibly hitting the blocks, if you still have it any plans on being there?

PK

TandemGeek 01-12-10 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PMK (Post 10258128)
But most times when group riding with smaller groups, I have no problem making certain others finish safe and at a pace good for them. Not saying or suggesting this is 100% of the time, but knocking a hole in the wind, or riding a slower pace with encouraging words so others finish the ride can be part of a great ride also. I guess a lot of this involves knowing how large the group is, plus paying attention to others you are riding with.

Small groups or large, whenever you have a group of 'regulars' who on a scale of 1 to 10 (with 1 being predisposed to ride at an average speed of 25 mph and 10 at 12 mph) ride in the 4-7 range and someone shows up who is a 1, 2, 9 or 10 they're typically going to go off the front or off the back. Most 'regulars' don't worry so much about the ones who go off the front, they're obviously getting in their miles somewhere else so it's on them to throttle back and be social. If they don't no big deal. However, it's the folks on the other end of the curve that slinky off the back or get dropped, despite the best intentions of the group: hey, you can only ride so slow. We've even seen this with group members who were previously in the middle of the mix who moved to a triplet with their kids and, well, adiós muchachos... Now, bear in mind, if you don't live where there are any hills it's a lot easier for those new riders to hang with the group and for the group to ride at a more relaxed pace. However, in places like North Georgia, hills are a fact of life and they are what split the herd... quickly. Just something to keep in mind when considering the broader audience and what some of the dynamics are that influence club ride challenges in different places.

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Originally Posted by PMK (Post 10258128)
I noticed your ECDM possibly hitting the blocks, if you still have it any plans on being there?

I never put it up for sale and we probably won't decide what we're doing relative to Alex's off-road weekend in May until just before the event. We have an alternative lodging site so we're not constrained by reservation limitations.

PMK 01-13-10 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TandemGeek (Post 10258421)
Small groups or large, whenever you have a group of 'regulars' who on a scale of 1 to 10 (with 1 being predisposed to ride at an average speed of 25 mph and 10 at 12 mph) ride in the 4-7 range and someone shows up who is a 1, 2, 9 or 10 they're typically going to go off the front or off the back. Most 'regulars' don't worry so much about the ones who go off the front, they're obviously getting in their miles somewhere else so it's on them to throttle back and be social. If they don't no big deal. However, it's the folks on the other end of the curve that slinky off the back or get dropped, despite the best intentions of the group: hey, you can only ride so slow. We've even seen this with group members who were previously in the middle of the mix who moved to a triplet with their kids and, well, adiós muchachos... Now, bear in mind, if you don't live where there are any hills it's a lot easier for those new riders to hang with the group and for the group to ride at a more relaxed pace. However, in places like North Georgia, hills are a fact of life and they are what split the herd... quickly. Just something to keep in mind when considering the broader audience and what some of the dynamics are that influence club ride challenges in different places.



I never put it up for sale and we probably won't decide what we're doing relative to Alex's off-road weekend in May until just before the event. We have an alternative lodging site so we're not constrained by reservation limitations.

I guess my point was that while we love group riding, I am not above the concept of making sure others finish safely.

I do agree that you can only ride so slow, and when we were accomplishing scheduled training rides for the TNT stuff, the ride left with realistic goals of mileage and average speed. However, if the ride slows on account of it becoming too social we have no problem locking in the designated average speed and making the tandem a dot on the horizon.

Any ride when I know someone is struggling, but putting in 100% effort, and most times it is obvious, I just feel better not abandoning the rider(s), and don't mind helping them get back safely. This is obviously not the norm for us on every ride, but seems like the safe thing to do. We seem to do this a few times per year, and while the rider(s) we stay with to the end of their ride, most times are apologetic for what they feel is ruining our ride, we just don't see it like that.

Your mention of the triplet, parallels a something MTB related and a lesson I was suckered into. We did a small group ride at Santos. My wife and myself, a few other fit riders, a racer mom and her racer teenage daughter. About 20 or so miles into the ride, the pace was good and settled for all but the teenage girl. Her mom was in the habit of riding towards the front, with the fast racer guys and her boyfriend. Repeatedly we let her know her daughter was falling off the back. They waited a couple of times. Then vanished. She basically dumped her kid with us knowing we would see her get back to the trailhead. At mile 30 of about a 35 mile ride, this kid is spent. Then admits her longest ride ever was only 18 miles. Suffice to say, we all got back safe. As we get back to the campground, her mom is already cleaned up, and hanging with her boyfriend. Asks the kid, did you have a good ride? Ironically, the following days ride, we rode with a different group. The mom couldn't understand why we would not ride with them again, and sadly, her daughter went with the excuse of being to tired. The mom could not see the obvious. But we did. Lesson learned.

Obviously if you can stay with the front, or in a closely matched group, it can make your own ride more rewarding working with the slipstream and so forth.

Guess we'll both see how things unfold come May. I talked with Alex and mentioned to put us as a possible. We aren't worried about a hotel too much and said we would stay at the campground if we can pull it off.

PK

TandemGeek 01-13-10 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PMK (Post 10263000)
Any ride when I know someone is struggling, but putting in 100% effort, and most times it is obvious, I just feel better not abandoning the rider(s), and don't mind helping them get back safely. This is obviously not the norm for us on every ride, but seems like the safe thing to do. We seem to do this a few times per year, and while the rider(s) we stay with to the end of their ride, most times are apologetic for what they feel is ruining our ride, we just don't see it like that.

Exactly, happens all the time. However, more times that not those same folks -- especially when it comes to tandems -- won't show up for future rides with that group. It's a rare and determined couple, or a couple who can see past the ride to the post-ride social interaction who will persevere and stick with it. Of course, this is the frustration in that if all the folks who were reluctant to show up for a group tandem ride for fear of being dropped or holding up the group showed up they'd have their own group for the shorter route or a more comfortable pace.

Again, if the rides take place in 'tandem friendly' terrain, it's a whole lot easier to keep riders of widely divergent riding levels together. The latter is why, for instance, the hosts of the Georgia Tandem Rally continue to locate their event in places that feature 'tandem friendly' terrain and enjoy a great following, especially by folks from Florida who often out number the folks from Georgia. But, when you're looking at a couple thousand feet of climbing over even a 20-40 mile 'short' route, it's an entirely different game. We have a friend who has always described the previous Tennessee Tandem Rallies as "not your grandmother's tandem rally" given the Thursday challenge rides and very hilly terrain that makes it very attractive to the 'A' and 'B' level teams who thrive on big miles and big climbing.

Onegun 01-13-10 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TandemGeek (Post 10263135)
We have a friend who has always described the previous Tennessee Tandem Rallies as "not your grandmother's tandem rally" given the Thursday challenge rides and very hilly terrain that makes it very attractive to the 'A' and 'B' level teams who thrive on big miles and big climbing.

Ahhh, I remember those days ... out in SoCal in the late 70's! Course, (as the saying goes), "The older we gets, the better we was, and the FIRST liar don't stands a chance!"

rdtompki 01-13-10 11:14 AM

It's a shame there isn't a tandem club in the San Francisco Bay area, but some of the cycling clubs do have tandem-friendly rides, Grizzly Peak Cyclists comes to mind. Tandem-friendly is a relative term; 2000-3000 feet of climbing in 50-60 miles wouldn't be unusual given our terrain. "Friendly" is usually identified with an absence of long killer grade stretches. We've only been able to ride with other tandems a few times, but it certainly is fun regardless of the pace. I agree that a critical mass permits the group to naturally split into like-paced teams.

TandemGeek 01-13-10 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rdtompki (Post 10264152)
It's a shame there isn't a tandem club in the San Francisco Bay area,

There was at one time a club that called itself the Bay Area Roaming Tandems (BART). They disbanded a bunch of years back. In fact, there are a quite a few tandem club names that aren't in my lists, above, that faded away back beyond the current data on my Website. Perhaps I need to create a historical archive?

regomatic 01-24-10 11:09 AM

It appears that the Florida PANTHERS Tandem club is now open for business;

http://floridatandemclub.com/index.htm

Onegun 01-25-10 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by regomatic (Post 10311059)
It appears that the Florida PANTHERS Tandem club is now open for business;

http://floridatandemclub.com/index.htm

That is correct, Reg! And there are already many "weekend rides" and even a rally in the works! I put "weekend rides" in quotes because we're not talking about just a Saturday or Sunday ride, but a weekend long ride ... like a rally, only at zero cost! Well ... OK, you still have to pay for your own accomodations & food, but there's no registration fee. The weekend ride in April is all confirmed, and there's a link to all the details on the right-hand side of the home page.

Also, if you DIDN'T get the official announcement last evening, then you ARE NOT on the PANTHERS' mailing list. If you want priority notice on all the rides and events the club is hosting, there's a link to the subscribe/unsubscribe page on the right side of the home page as well, but here's a direct link.


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